Btg how do you get away with it

[kennygamerboy]

They don’t answer any questions of importance to there loyal players, they nerf games beyond all
Reproach. They’ve blatantly lowered the rtp on there slots. And answer to nobody. Regulation my a… the whole
Online slotting world is theft nothing more or less and people need to wake up and keep there money and not
Give it to the unscrupulous companies like btg who are laughing at the mug punters all the way to the bank. Customer focused apparently but go partner with evolution who aren’t trustworthy at all just Google them and look them
Up on youtube vile. Don’t mind losing money as that’s all part of having a flutter but this is just daylight robbery now. Btg Games got tampered with beyond reproach on April 12th and since then they’ve been not the same. Also on some uk Sites the games went down same
Time as the other sites and isn’t the same but still says they are running an October 2020 version lies and corruption. Profiting from theft. Bye slots I think I’ll take up something else

 

[kennygamerboy]

This is just on one site. How is this acceptable or random?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Where is the screen that shows total no. of spins and overall RTP?

Those screenshots just show that for a large time period the game hasn’t been played on that site??

 

[kennygamerboy]

Where is the screen that shows total no. of spins and overall RTP?

Those screenshots just show that for a large time period the game hasn’t been played on that site??

That’s two months of play since I joined. I’ve closed account on there now but that’s just the two months I was there. 65% rtp deposits gone in under a minute I kid you not. Disgusting on there and a cash grab

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Admittedly that’s shit for 2 months.

How many spins?

 

[MoonOfMarine]

This is a screenshot of my stats on a casino I started playing a month ago haha! Small sample, but this has been the same on multiple sites for the last few months in my experience.

 

[Reelsoffun]

This is a screenshot of my stats on a casino I started playing a month ago haha! Small sample, but this has been the same on multiple sites for the last few months in my experience.

In effect only £400 adrift from the 96% RTP so not that bad really. A couple of decent features on £1 would get you close to RTP

A lot of slots have at least 25-40% RTP in the bonuses so on any slot where you have had less bonuses than average or you have had lower than average value bonuses your gonna struggle to get close to your expected RTP.

 

[mack341]

If a big chunk of rtp is contained in the infrequent bonus and big base game hits then you could get spells of low money back, but can any regular bonanza player [from year of it's launch] say, hand on heart, they believe the maths have never been tinkered with, only changes to minor product issues, graphics etc..?

 

[MoonOfMarine]

In effect only £400 adrift from the 96% RTP so not that bad really. A couple of decent features on £1 would get you close to RTP

A lot of slots have at least 25-40% RTP in the bonuses so on any slot where you have had less bonuses than average or you have had lower than average value bonuses your gonna struggle to get close to your expected RTP.

I have other stats on my phone that vary between 70-85% RTP all over recent months. Just seems a bit fishy. That sample is extremely small though.

 

[thr0b]

For comparison, my spins on Mr Vegas on Star Clusters have my RTP at >120%.

You cannot assume that because your RTP average is less than the slot average, that the slot is not performing at the RTP average overall.

 

[Kroffe]

If the numbers on vs are accurate Bonanza seems to have been running no more than around +-1% from the theoretical rtp the last couple of months.
Looks like i missed May, May was 95.6% rtp.

 

[Kroffe]

Compare that to Whos the bride that i play every now and then (and also inbetween that)
Last 2 months.
Ouch.

May was 110% tho.



Its a shame you cant see amount of spins made per month.
I assume bonanza sees alot more spins than whos the bride, so those numbers should be a more accurate representation.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s a natural for people to feel hard done by when not running well. I mean does anybody ever come on here complaining that the slot is over paying them?

Ive had just about every up and down on
Bonanza including huge dry spells lasting months.

Ive had 4 out of 5 deposits take 1000x stake yes that’s stake not 1000 spins to give a feature. Can you imagine what that felt like at the time??

That would be like Dazza in his latest set of vids going 10 deposits of £100 at £1 stake just to get a single feature. Then that happening again another 3 times over!! Can u imagine that ffs!! He’d be doing his nut claiming all sorts. He’s moaning now despite being 4 bag up over about 60 vids!!!

If you fall on the wrong side of the bonus frequency on bonanza ur gonna get ur ass handed to you. That’s a fact. I know it cos I’ve had the most awful spells on it.

 

[thr0b]

This is it. We keep seeing patterns that aren't there, and support our own arguments based on how the game is playing for us personally at any given moment.

Best thing to do when a game is playing badly is to go and play another one, if you want to be playing, or just not play at all. If you're not having fun (and it is possible to have fun while still on a losing streak), why are you putting the money in when you already think it's not coming back your way?

For BTG, if I think they're playing badly, but I still want to play their games, I just go over to the demos at

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- it's their own site, and the games there play no worse or better than the real money games do.

 

[Speedy38]

That is How slots work 9 out of 10 times you loose. 2 night ago I got 3800 x on fruitparty 2 paid almost 800 euro. Then I go to two other casino’s and lost 1k on fruitparty 2 that doesnt mean the slot is rigged!

 

[The Viking]

well Bonanza looks pretty accurate to me this is past year 47.000 spins

 

[Eliot85]

But heyyy... Rosh won ... 2 milions yeastrday, 1 milion today and 2,5 milion last week?? haha

 

[kennygamerboy]

Admittedly that’s shit for 2 months.

How many spins?

A lot

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Figure?

 

[neon claws]

How do you get away with it?

Well we would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for one pesky forum user who unraveled our whole plan! Curses!

 

[neon claws]

They don’t answer any questions of importance to there loyal players..

Didn't they have a giant thread on this very site where they did just that?

 

[kennygamerboy]

Didn't they have a giant thread on this very site where they did just that?

Show me? Cos they swerve all important questions

 

[neon claws]

Show me? Cos they swerve all important questions

I'm not your friggin servant, go ask Jeeves.

 

[thr0b]

I'm not your friggin servant, go ask Jeeves.

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(For those under 35!)

 

[Kroffe]

Pff, what is a 'google'?

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