Btg how do you get away with it

danofthewibble

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Suggestion: If you think a game is broken, report it to the casino. Remind them that their license obliges them to supply fair games (though do remember that "fair" does not equate to "you will win"), and explain your reasons as to why you think the game is not fair. If you don't get far, report to the UKGC/MGA etc. If a game IS rigged, enough reports will trigger an investigation, and there will be consequences. No reputable provider will be wanting to supply rigged games, especially ones such as Bonanza which are perpetually in their top games lists.
 

snorky510238

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You’ve only done 31k spins at videoslots??? Wow. Please tell me that’s not lifetime spins there??

Call ya self a bonanzarer???!!!

Maybe you should have complained when your RTP was at 102% and 98% as you were experiencing far superior gameplay that you should have been!!

So an increase of 6% and 2% is fine but a decrease of 4% means game changed!! All that in just 30,000 spins!!!

I thought you knew better than that Snorks.
I do know better, that’s just since March if you look closer and like I said VS has been one of the better sites. Dread to think what my rtp has dropped to on others. To swing from 98% to 92% in such a short space of time takes some pretty shite gameplay.

Out of interest what is your rtp at William Hills? I seem to remember from your posts in the Bonanza thread, that you think their version is bent……..but you are willing to accept every other site is legit, go and figure.
 

PMKFRUITPRO

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Yes tongue in cheek comment Snorky!! Do you honestly think I would play at a site if I genuinely thought was running bent games!!!

Here is you saying the same thing a while back…….



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Didn’t run to bad after that did we!!!!

Sky are mailing me my report this afternoon. I shall report my figures from that when they arrive.

What’s your lifetime stats on VS Snorks?
 

brianmon

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I can see why there might be updates to allow for changes in browsers and operating systems etc.
You only need to look at how google chrome usually needs an update after windows has had an update, or how some apps update after an ios update.

But why don't ALL the 'versions' need the same update at the same time?

The game on MGS servers was updated April 2021 and the game on NYX servers was updated October 2020 (IIRC)

Why did the NYX game not need the same update as MGS got in April?
 

kennygamerboy

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Did you consider it was broken when you were 4-6 percentage points above the average RTP for the game, or only when it was now 4-6 percentage points below the quoted and no longer playing in your favour?

We keep seeing patterns in things that aren't there, and you can go back months/weeks/years in this thread and find people complaining the game has changed, while at the same time others are posting bonus after bonus.

Honestly, if you are really convinced the game is broken, don't play it - why throw good money after bad?

(To add - 102+92=194/2 = 97, so strictly you're still about the target RTP, if you want to look at it that way.)
Have you seen the state of the bonuses people have been posting? Even the bonus rounds have been nerfed
 

kennygamerboy

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You're really far into tin-foil hat territory. Seriously, consider whether or not you should be playing for your own good!
I just don’t like being blatantly mugged off. There’s losing which I’m ok with and then there is pure corruption and filth going on behind the scenes. I would say since lockdown things changed possibly cos the supposed regulators couldn’t work who knows, then on April 14th btg was nerfed beyond reproach. These massive casinos and the game’s developers answer to nobody it’s scary how corrupt it all is. We are all mugs
 

kennygamerboy

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I can see why there might be updates to allow for changes in browsers and operating systems etc.
You only need to look at how google chrome usually needs an update after windows has had an update, or how some apps update after an ios update.

But why don't ALL the 'versions' need the same update at the same time?

The game on MGS servers was updated April 2021 and the game on NYX servers was updated October 2020 (IIRC)

Why did the NYX game not need the same update as MGS got in April?
The NYX 2020 versions a lie. Those versions all went down in April as well as the other version but for some reason it still says Oct 2020 in the help file
 

snorky510238

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Yes tongue in cheek comment Snorky!! Do you honestly think I would play at a site if I genuinely thought was running bent games!!!

Here is you saying the same thing a while back…….



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Didn’t run to bad after that did we!!!!

Sky are mailing me my report this afternoon. I shall report my figures from that when they arrive.

What’s your lifetime stats on VS Snorks?
I don’t know, I tried to download it since Bonanza was launched but whether there is too much data or something, I am not sure. I will try again but not confident I will succeed.
 

CongoGB

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Have you seen the state of the bonuses people have been posting? Even the bonus rounds have been nerfed
Have you thought that maybe people aren't posting in the Bonanza thread because of the horrendous tin-foil-hattery that's currently taking place?

I've had plenty of decent sessions lately, but mainly can't be arsed to post anything now. And when people do post decent wins, they get ignored.

Throughout this current spate of heads being banged against brick walls I've wanted to point out that these games are not free cash machines. The stats show they are clearly paying as they should over their lifetime.

Maybe time for some people to start thinking about other things.
 

pinnit2014

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Boy, you take a mini break from here and it's well, the same :laugh:

I'm pretty much running at 101% across Bonanza and have been the last 3 months, 3 months before that, was around 97%.

Has it changed? I play it pretty often, now on lower stakes as less stressful, and whilst i agree the run of dead spins kinda sticks out, the bonus rounds have always kinda sucked, even back in the Golden Years of 2017 where i was hitting 10x's.

Did manage this from Thursday Battles last night and continued playing - highest multi since my 37/42 spins

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paul7388

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Boy, you take a mini break from here and it's well, the same :laugh:

I'm pretty much running at 101% across Bonanza and have been the last 3 months, 3 months before that, was around 97%.

Has it changed? I play it pretty often, now on lower stakes as less stressful, and whilst i agree the run of dead spins kinda sticks out, the bonus rounds have always kinda sucked, even back in the Golden Years of 2017 where i was hitting 10x's.

Did manage this from Thursday Battles last night and continued playing - highest multi since my 37/42 spins

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Did you really think it would change in here.

Nice hit by the way.
 

snorky510238

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I agree, you could pick any date since Bonanza was released up until mid April this year and compare 100 consecutive bonuses or 200 if you like, with my last 100-200 and you wouldn’t fail to spot what’s happened.
 

Kroffe

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BTG: 'I didn't post those fake screenshots to cheat in the competition'

CM: 'Oh - Yes you did - it was from the same PC linked to YOUR Account'

Years Later

BTG:
'We haven't changed anything on Bonanza....'
Its those darn interns.
Faking screenshots, changing bonanza math, who knows whats next.

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Reelsoffun

When it comes to gambling, timing is everything.
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I agree, you could pick any date since Bonanza was released up until mid April this year and compare 100 consecutive bonuses or 200 if you like, with my last 100-200 and you wouldn’t fail to spot what’s happened.

Just so happens I have my last 100 bonuses handy - Most recent are on the right, wins are in X stake

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snorky510238

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Just so happens I have my last 100 bonuses handy - Most recent are on the right, wins are in X stake

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No disrespect but they are pretty poor, with only 3 just breaking x300 and the average around x100, which is where it’s supposed to be allegedly.

The graph is cool though. :thumbsup:
 

pinnit2014

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Bit of a space like vacuum between between 3-1000x:cool:

Without going full rain man on my results: the number of 500-1000x's is pretty much non existent for me as well; though i have had, i think, more 1000x (few 10000x's, a 3500x earlier this year) than maybe previously.

Getting 300x plus seems to require multis well into the double like last night here; not bad for having a quid left but with 17 and that multi anything less than 500x is a bit annoying. Best x hits tend to come on multi 7/8: once u're past x13 you know it's going to be 3OAK J's if ur lucky :laugh:

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snorky510238

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:laugh: - one of the zero's

If i hit 10000x in Bonanza i'd probably die face first in the keyboard, with my BTG keycard to the building, around my neck.
Phew, thought you must have started working for Evolution for a second.
 
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