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Well this forum like most of the world is one giant hypocrite, so we might as well all just keep our mouths shut cause something will offend anyone nowadays.

Take for my example my 30 day ban for saying Betfred is a **** and a cancer to gambling, I have seen yourself numerous times use many foul language swear words when describing casinos(mostly rogue ones). Yet I got a ban?

Now that is not your fault, but my point is the rules are not dished out fair and square. Either allow no foul language or allow it, don't pick it and choose it based on whether you like a poster or not. I could pull up 10+ posts that are abusive in it's nature, yet not one has ever bothered me, yet somehow my post was deserving of a ban. I would make more of a issue of it but no point and this after all is just a forum but jesus it's one that isn't consistent.


Look, context is the key as always. Let's put your post here into context too, as you haven't.

1. You referred to a person in a picture when you got a 30-day ban. Not the entity Betfred, but a real person in that image/article.
2. You have a track record of being suspended so it's not like you're still on the 'mild admonishment ' stage!
3. It was a doubly unpleasant post for both words and typed with not a shred of humour, but almost aggressively.
4. People reported that post, therefore it must have overstepped the mark - bad words used in the right context have always appeared here, it's an adult forum but are left untouched because they are presented in a way that doesn't get them reported to admin.

And that is the key - knowing how near the line you can tread before getting your posts to the stage they offend enough to be reported. In all fairness, in the past you know yourself you have overstepped the mark.

Bad language is not accepted based on whether the poster is 'liked' at all. It's how it's used, directed and again the magic word 'context'. I hate seeing people banned and have never done it (aside from obvious spammers after their links have been appropriately changed :D ) and if I believe something needs that action I ask Bryan or Max for a second opinion or refer it to them. They are the best people to deal with it - Bryan 'cos it's his house, and Max as he's head housekeeper.

A US Supreme Court judge once said "I cannot define obscenity, but I know it when I see it." :thumbsup:
 

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And that is the key - knowing how near the line you can tread before getting your posts to the stage they offend enough to be reported. In all fairness

Bad language is not accepted based on whether the poster is 'liked' at all. It's how it's used, directed and again the magic word 'context'.
A good example, could be, I could call a fellow member a right bastard, for say, getting a song stuck in my head. No problem.
Calling another, simply a moron, as you say, without a trace of humour, while on the surface, is less offsensive, is in fact is, well because...context
 
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Look, context is the key as always. Let's put your post here into context too, as you haven't.

1. You referred to a person in a picture when you got a 30-day ban. Not the entity Betfred, but a real person in that image/article.
2. You have a track record of being suspended so it's not like you're still on the 'mild admonishment ' stage!
3. It was a doubly unpleasant post for both words and typed with not a shred of humour, but almost aggressively.
4. People reported that post, therefore it must have overstepped the mark - bad words used in the right context have always appeared here, it's an adult forum but are left untouched because they are presented in a way that doesn't get them reported to admin.

And that is the key - knowing how near the line you can tread before getting your posts to the stage they offend enough to be reported. In all fairness, in the past you know yourself you have overstepped the mark.

Bad language is not accepted based on whether the poster is 'liked' at all. It's how it's used, directed and again the magic word 'context'. I hate seeing people banned and have never done it (aside from obvious spammers after their links have been appropriately changed :D ) and if I believe something needs that action I ask Bryan or Max for a second opinion or refer it to them. They are the best people to deal with it - Bryan 'cos it's his house, and Max as he's head housekeeper.

A US Supreme Court judge once said "I cannot define obscenity, but I know it when I see it." :thumbsup:

1) The real person is the owner of the company, sorry can we only say the company is scum not the actual owner?
2) Track record you mean once before, for pulling Trancemonkey up and that ban was ridiculous more than this one
3) It was fully aggressive why should i post humour on a thread about a casino ripping players off and if you google he has LOTS of previous history of short changing players
4) THIS point is where real issue is, snivelling people with agendas reporting posts and people running it acting upon it.

You don't know where the line is as much as me, the videos you have posted and posts in the past have been equally aggressive and way more abusive that anything I've posted. People have no issues with rules as long as they are consistent, that is not the case.

Like I say no issue with you, but you're a good example to use on how posters are treated differently. But again that is not your fault either!
 

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1) The real person is the owner of the company, sorry can we only say the company is scum not the actual owner?
2) Track record you mean once before, for pulling Trancemonkey up and that ban was ridiculous more than this one
3) It was fully aggressive why should i post humour on a thread about a casino ripping players off and if you google he has LOTS of previous history of short changing players
4) THIS point is where real issue is, snivelling people with agendas reporting posts and people running it acting upon it.

You don't know where the line is as much as me, the videos you have posted and posts in the past have been equally aggressive and way more abusive that anything I've posted. People have no issues with rules as long as they are consistent, that is not the case.

Like I say no issue with you, but you're a good example to use on how posters are treated differently. But again that is not your fault either!

Reported:thumbsup:
 

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1) The real person is the owner of the company, sorry can we only say the company is scum not the actual owner?
2) Track record you mean once before, for pulling Trancemonkey up and that ban was ridiculous more than this one
3) It was fully aggressive why should i post humour on a thread about a casino ripping players off and if you google he has LOTS of previous history of short changing players
4) THIS point is where real issue is, snivelling people with agendas reporting posts and people running it acting upon it.

You don't know where the line is as much as me, the videos you have posted and posts in the past have been equally aggressive and way more abusive that anything I've posted. People have no issues with rules as long as they are consistent, that is not the case.

Like I say no issue with you, but you're a good example to use on how posters are treated differently. But again that is not your fault either!

'Scum' wasn't the word you used IIRC.
I wouldn't call people who report posts 'snivellers' either. I mean, is this a wind-up or are you seriously wondering why you get reported?? :eek2:

I have seen numerous reports since becoming a mod, and yes there have been one or two frivolous or petty ones but in the main they are reasoned and mostly justified. Not all reports result in any action, far from it.
I reckon you think mods are on some kind of power trip, grinning as they wield the axe and then make arbitrary decisions - I can assure you that in many cases there is discussion, exchange of considered views and opinions before any action is taken, when the correct action may not be immediately obvious.

Videos are third-party content and not hosted on CM. Any criticism (and there's usually plenty) gets posted on YT comments.

I'm sorry you feel like some kind of victim here. I actually did receive a strike from MaxD once upon a time too FYI. The thing is, I learn from these things whereas some may not.

P.S lol @Gaz237 :thumbsup:
 
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Lol, I’m happy that this thread is bringing change to the world :p.

I have contacted a lawyer, however their terms are very fishy.
I will post them here once I get home.


Yes, apologies to you @kunjuice92 as this thread's very important and possibly 'scam of the year 2018' and it's been taken well off topic in the last few pages. :oops:

FTR record I am aware of what kunjuice is talking about here and as you can all see he's checking out courses of action that may lead to recovery of his win/balance.

I have my opinions on what I have seen, it will be interesting to see the other members' reaction to what he's trying to do.
 

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I can see what you are saying. But sorry these days everywhere in life a lot of people take offense to just about everything...
As mentioned in other posts, "faggot" is wholly offensive to the LGBT community - many of whom are members here in this forum. Furthermore, when it comes to suspensions or bannings, the member's history is taken into account. This member had in the past received an infraction for flaming, so the suspension didn't come out of nowhere.

And if you read my comments on bannings and suspensions here, you'll see that all it takes in most cases is an apology, and the ban is lifted. Rarely does anyone take me up on that offer - it seems that they take the banning as a "red badge of courage", or they just don't care.

I have an open door policy here is well. You don't like the way things are going or what I'm doing, PM me. Those who know me know that I'm easygoing and I'm open to suggestions. And for those who find themselves suspended or banned, sometimes all it takes is an apology to get back in.



Well this forum like most of the world is one giant hypocrite, so we might as well all just keep our mouths shut cause something will offend anyone nowadays.

Take for my example my 30 day ban for saying Betfred is a **** and a cancer to gambling, I have seen yourself numerous times use many foul language swear words when describing casinos(mostly rogue ones). Yet I got a ban?

Now that is not your fault, but my point is the rules are not dished out fair and square. Either allow no foul language or allow it, don't pick it and choose it based on whether you like a poster or not. I could pull up 10+ posts that are abusive in it's nature, yet not one has ever bothered me, yet somehow my post was deserving of a ban. I would make more of a issue of it but no point and this after all is just a forum but jesus it's one that isn't consistent.

My dear nutnut,

You have been given loads of wiggle room here. You have no less than three infractions for posting trollish comments - and I haven't kept track of the suspensions either. If anyone has given you the freedom to speak your piece, it's me. Most forum administrators would have lost patience and banned you after the first couple of offenses.

Please reread "How to get banned at Casinomeister" and perhaps you'll understand better from where I am coming from, and hopefully you can be a regular participant who shares helpful, instructive, entertaining, and or interesting thoughts and ideas, and quit resorting to ad hominem attacks or other misdeeds. Thank you.
 

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Yes, apologies to you @kunjuice92 as this thread's very important and possibly 'scam of the year 2018' and it's been taken well off topic in the last few pages. :oops:

FTR record I am aware of what kunjuice is talking about here and as you can all see he's checking out courses of action that may lead to recovery of his win/balance.

I have my opinions on what I have seen, it will be interesting to see the other members' reaction to what he's trying to do.

Thanks ! Honestly I think I am going to hope I don't get screwed by the people in curacao too.

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I had posted this complaint on gameprotect, and he referred me to a lawyer whose name I will keep private for now.

At this point I don't think there is much to do here for my winnings. PlayNgo won't help, casino just ignores my emails. People just want more money upfront to even start any legal proceedings.

These are the messages.
*snip*

[maxd says: emails removed per author's request]
 
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Also the funny thing is that after I posted my video, the only comments I got was fake , and all other crap. The video had no views at all.

However ! ROSHTEIN, posted a video of a 100k win just after two weeks I posted mine. 100 euro bet.

The only problem is that people believe his videos lol.

Sigh ....
 

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This whole thread hijacked over one comment from me, while another player did'nt get his winnings of over 100k.

Edit: If i had to spend 5000 to 10k in order to have a shot at the winnings i was rightfull to, then i would do it. Sooner or later that'll pay back and i think it would be a good blow to the casino's who believe they could get away with this behaviour. There is a risk however, but the casino has to clarify why it is not paying anything out in this case.

If you played straight, correct, got a bonus on 20 bet, and a full screen later, then it's pretty obvious to me that you are the rightfull winner of that. Be fast tho, dont let this case sink in for years.

I mean pinpoint me a landbased casino who would reject my winnigs unless there was a proven malfunction (void pays). Which is'nt. And that casino just took your deposits + another 100k.
 

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LOL.. FYI I am an 'orange b*stard' too so the Rhino can jolly well take that on the chin.:p

Just a point of order, I think you are referring to IrishRanger who wasn't actually banned for the words he used initially, but the response he gave when I offered him words of advice to refrain henceforth.

No sir this orange ******* is also still here lol
Correct I wasn't banned for the words I used it was for the comments I made when dunover told me to wind me neck in..
 

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Hi All !

So nearly 2 years later I am battling this situation with a lawyer name Roelof Bijkerk who started a court case against the operator of the casino, a Curacao company called Game Tech Group NV. After the court case was started suddenly the casino called me twice recently and offered me € 20,000 and close my claim. I told them to contact Mr. Bijkerk. Subsequently they offered him € 40,000 which was denied because there is no legitimate reason not to get the full amount of over € 90,000.

The casino confiscated my winnings around two years ago because ‘there was a major bug on my account’.

They never replied to correspondence of my lawyer.

When they called me recently they claimed that I used an ‘insurance bonus’ which is a lie and therefor supposedly a limit was set on my winnings.
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Now they claim in court that I refused to verify myself, hence my winnings were confiscated. This is utter crap because I have had previous winnings from them and was verified previously. They come up with different arguments each time, and they make no sense at all.

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I have lost my head in the past two years thinking about this. Stick to well acclaimed casinos, as stated on casinomeister.
 
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Have to admire you as you indeed have shown perseverance.

You should have taken the 40K as that is 40,000 kahunas more than you have now and would have been a hell of a lot more than anyone else has ever squeezed out of this clip joints.

They will keep going till the end of time or until you give up. I have yet to see a player not only winning a case in Curacao but then also actually getting paid.

@Hamster 100 this thread might be a good read for you.
 

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Thank you @Harry_BKK !

This is utterly shocking and disgusting, I am so sorry for you @kunjuice92 ! I have me a similar situation with a Curacao casino who have confiscated £50,000 approx winnings from me claiming I have committed fraud. I won it legitimately on purchase feature slots. I don't think I have what it takes to pursue it as fully as you are even though I am thoroughly devastated about what has happened.

I admire your tenacity and hope you get what's rightfully yours!
 
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Have to admire you as you indeed have shown perseverance.

You should have taken the 40K as that is 40,000 kahunas more than you have now and would have been a hell of a lot more than anyone else has ever squeezed out of this clip joints.

They will keep going till the end of time or until you give up. I have yet to see a player not only winning a case in Curacao but then also actually getting paid.

@Hamster 100 this thread might be a good read for you.


I understand what you are trying to say. Funny thing though, they wanted to close the claim after signing and only THEN they would send out payments. Quiet Alarming.
 

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I understand what you are trying to say. Funny thing though, they wanted to close the claim after signing and only THEN they would send out payments. Quiet Alarming.

Yeah, they would not have sent a single cent. You can only agree to something like that if they send e.g. 80 or 90% first, then you close and they send then the reminder. In any other case, they will be sitting in their office and high-fiving each other.
 

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Just read the whole thing. Humans are disgusting. Really.
I feel sorry for you even if you should have not played there. I was robbed of many many thousands when the poker « black friday » happenned. Years later I was fked again for 10k EUR on 20$ deposit by some greedy humans running a scam casino. Why? BecausenI didnt know shit about online gambling. Then I registered here and it never happened again. When some try their funny stalling tactics, after a 5 min discussion, the stalling ends. Live and learn. 100K though... I would probably end up in prison or dead trying to seek and destroy their entire staff. Everyone.
 
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