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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by vickie40, Oct 30, 2004.

    Oct 30, 2004
  1. vickie40

    vickie40 Vickie

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    I know this probably is a really stupid question, is there an easy way to figure out your play thru requirements to see if they have been met? Or, is it easier to just contact the casino and ask them?

    Thanks in advance for an answer to this...

    Victoria
     
  2. Oct 30, 2004
  3. snuf419

    snuf419 Dormant account

    never contact the casino for this type of info
    as that's just telling the casino 'hey i am here to take the bonus and wager minimum and leave'
    keep track of your own bets.
     
  4. Oct 30, 2004
  5. DeMango

    DeMango Dormant account

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    Some software tally your bets (Crypto, Boss, Micro) but some you will have to write down as you go. Then (assuming BJ) you can come back and tel us how rigged it is! :)
     
  6. Oct 30, 2004
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Please can you tell me how to get this data from Boss & Micro?

    I know Crypto provides a very user friendly one-line-per-session total summary, but thought the other two only list it hand-by-hand - making it tedious & boring work adding it all up!

    I'll let you into a little KK trade 'secret'! I get 4 pennys, and 20 5p coins on my desk. 1p = 1$. Then as I play I slide them from right to left according to the value of my bet. When all the 5p's have moved I note that I've done $100, and start again.
    Much easier than trying to write it all down bet-by-bet!

    PS. I haven't tried it, but I think this system might also work with 4 1c coins & 20 nickels, and maybe if you slide left to right instead! ;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2004
  8. Oct 31, 2004
  9. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

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    Vickie,

    It's not a stupid question - unfortunately I think the casinos want to make life as difficult as possible for anyone playing with a bonus (and encourage you to exceed the wagering requirement), so they generally don't provide an easy method of calculating how much you've played.

    Cryptologic (Intercasino & co.) is about the best, but it doesn't include doubling or splitting in its total for blackjack.

    MG has the horrible and near useless 'playcheck'. A better bet is either to use the autoplay, or to click on statistics after a session so it'll tell you how many hands/spins you've played. Unfortunately I don't think this tells you how much you bet, so it only works if you flat bet.

    With Playtech you can just use the Comp points in the cashier - 10$=1 point, usually. I'm not sure if a similar thing works with RTG.

    Overall it's best to try and keep count yourself, but if you lose count by all means contact the CS - they should always be able to tell you quickly (they must spend half their lives answering these questions!). If you make a mistake with wagering you'll generally only get the cash-in returned to your account, but some places, like the Fortune Lounge casinos, rub their hands in joy and pocket the cash :D
     
  10. Oct 31, 2004

  11. For Boss, just go to comp program. If you started with zero and wagered $1000 in BJ, then you'll have 100 points.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2004
  13. Ping

    Ping Dormant account

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    Normally, I would just email the online casino, and they will reply me. That's it! And then, if I am "very near" my completion of the playthru requirements, I will usually list down and count my bets as I make it until I reached the playthru requirement. :p
     
  14. Oct 31, 2004
  15. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Vesuvio you are quite right! Microgaming is probably the most prevalent and popular casino software on the net, yet they stick with the near useless 'Playcheck' system. Why would they stay with this utter rubbish if not to deliberately make things difficult for their customers, as you say?

    Crypto is 10x better! Not only do they have the very quick & simple to use 'Log Viewer', but also most of their casino's have 100%, or 30% up to $100, bonuses every month - not like the pathetic 15% at MG's.
    If only there were about another 10 similar crypto operators online - I would never use anything else!
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2004
  16. Oct 31, 2004
  17. chop-choi

    chop-choi Dormant account

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    Be careful about using this method. I have had several Boss casinos show a comp point balance that was several hundred dollars below the amount I had wagered. I had to call the call the casino to find out. My advice is to count out the first 50 bets and make sure you have 5 comp points. Then, count out another 50 and make sure you have another 5. If the balance is correct, then you can rely on it. But still check it periodically to make sure the points seem right.
     
  18. Oct 31, 2004
  19. dominique

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    brrrr.

    Reading this thread really explains why so many novice players get screwed.

    They end up with bonuses and don't read or even understand the wagering requirements (many don't have English as their native tongue) and win - and bam! they don't get payed and scream bloody murder.

    People need to have a choice of whether they want a bonus or not, and it needs to be easy to read and list all the consequences of any decision.

    Maybe there needs to be a choice of a welcome bonus with wagering requirements, and a loyalty bonus without.
     
  20. Oct 31, 2004
  21. Ping

    Ping Dormant account

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    Actually, dominique, THERE IS a choice. Online casinos usually give out 10% bonus for regular customers on their deposits, BUT require a (seldom) 4x to as high as 40x to 50x wagering requirement! Sometimes, on "limited" games only at that, right? You know, roulette, craps, baccarat, etc games not included in the playthru requirement. :eek2:

    Now, here's THE better choice!!! Without being too "pushy", would anybody want to get 10% REBATE WITH NO WAGERING REQUIREMENT?!? :D

    Just make one bet equivalent to 5% of your deposit, and that's it - win or loss, you get your 10% rebate! If you want to continue playing, go ahead. If not, it's ok, you are qualified to get your 10% rebate already. :rolleyes:

    Welcome to CASINO REBATE ONLINE! The best part is play with the leading and most trusted LIVE online casino - DrHo888.com! What's more? You can place your ONE SINGLE BET on any games - Baccarat, BlackJack, SicBo or Roulette - all games included! :thumbsup:

    What do you think, guys?
     
  22. Oct 31, 2004
  23. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    With all due respect - I think it sounds like a load of bollox.

    Who wants to go through all the aggro of making a deposit just to play ONE bet of 5% of that deposit & then claim back 10% of your deposit by some means that is so dodgy you don't even explain it in your T&C's?

    There is also mention of extremely long time delays between various stages of this scheme - including up to 12 days to withdraw.

    Doesn't sound like much fun, or indeed much like gambling to me.

    As always, I stand to be corrected, with an apology in hand, if you would like to fully explain how this scheme works differently to my interpretation of it....
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2004
  24. Nov 1, 2004
  25. Ping

    Ping Dormant account

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    Thank you for your interest, and giving me more chance to explain...

    What I am saying is there is an alternative. If somebody wants a 10% bonus, WITHOUT being tied up to any wagering requirement, then join CASINO REBATE ONLINE, and play at DrHo888 online casino. :thumbsup:

    I am not saying you can and you should ONLY make that one bet. BUT if you did that, you are already qualified to the 10% bonus REBATE! No more 10X or 20X playthru requirements... just one bet is ok. Again, that does NOT mean that if you make and play several bets, you will be disqualified. Certainly, you will not. :eek2:


    Terms and Conditions:
    Rebate money shall be given in less than 12 days, to as fast as 2 days, AFTER the deposit-withdraw cycle procedure has been completed and verified.


    Actually, that line has just been changed to:
    4. Rebate money shall be deposited directly to your casino account, as fast as 2 days to a little less than 10 days, at worst, AFTER the deposit-withdraw cycle procedure has been completed and verified.

    The time is to allow some verification stuff and all. Hope it's clearer now. :rolleyes:


    I am inviting you to please visit the CASINO REBATE ONLINE site again, and go thru everything one more time. :)

    Just remember one thing, I don't take any money from you. You will just register and play at DrHo888 online casino THRU the banner at my site. Make your real money deposit DIRECTLY to the online casino, like you would normally do at any online casino. And then play there like you would, again normally do. ;)

    What have you got to lose? You will even get the chance to experience the thrill of playing with LIVE DEALERS!!! :thumbsup: And get your 10% rebate, if you follow and complete the deposit-withdraw cycle procedure.

    As a bonus, come to my site now, click the banner that says "FREE $15 NO DEPOSIT BONUS," and follow the instructions.

    Btw, invitation open to all new accounts only.



    Ping
     
  26. Nov 1, 2004
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Ping, as invited, I visited your site and read the offer again.
    It certainly does sound too good to be true! Which is why most people will believe it's not true.

    I am still very worried about this sentence:-
    Can you please fully explain what 'the deposit-withdraw cycle procedure' actually involves?

    Hypothetical Question:-
    Assuming that's OK, let's say I want to take full advantage of this scheme (as a bonus hunter) and get maximum rebate of $500 (10%). That would mean I'd have to deposit $5,000 and make just one bet of $250 (5%). Let's suppose I stick it all on one hand of Blackjack.
    If I lost I'd still make $500 - $250 = $250 profit.
    If I won I'd make $250 + $500 = $750 profit. Cool! :cool:
    So for arguments sake, lets say the odds of winning/losing a Blackjack hand are 50/50. That would mean, on average, bonus hunters signing up to your scheme and depositing $5,000 would make $500. Nice! :thumbsup:

    Now I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, as it is a very generous offer, but if 100 posters to this site all decided to join this scheme & deposit $5,000 tomorrow, where exactly would the $50,000 required to pay them all out actually come from?

    Just curious...
     
  28. Nov 1, 2004
  29. Ping

    Ping Dormant account

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    Taken from CASINO REBATE ONLINE main page ...
    "Too good to be true?" - definitely not! You see, we are getting paid for referring playing customers (like you). In turn, we give you back a big portion of what they pay us, to ensure you'll "WIN" too!


    It is for members only :p Come, join us, and be a member. Remember, you've got nothing to lose!


    In a nutshell, YES, you are correct! :thumbsup:


    This, you have to PM me, and I'll PM you the reply. :eek2:

    Seriously, I think I did answer this question already, right?

    Again, invitation is open to all new sign-ups at CASINO REBATE ONLINE. Take advantage of the FREE $15 no deposit offer! And get to enjoy one of the best LIVE online casinos out there... DrHo888!

    Remember, ONE BET is all it takes to be a winner! And ONE EMAIL is all it takes for you to know how ... :rolleyes:


    Ping
     
  30. Nov 1, 2004
  31. Ping

    Ping Dormant account

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    By the way, just in case you missed it, located right in the bottom portion of the main page at CASINO REBATE ONLINE website, reads:


    We are also listed at the DrHo888 website LINKMAP page :thumbsup:




    Ping
     
  32. Nov 1, 2004
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Im sorry Ping I was in a funny mood, and just trying to wind you up a little! I would not really be interested in any offer with only 10% bonus, with or without WR. Im not a high roller and would never deposit the amount necessary to make such an offer worth consideration. Especially as it sounds like my funds would be tied up for anything up to 2 weeks!

    But actually, you have my sympathy on this matter. Maybe I was just a little 'bitter & twisted' due to the reaction I got to my own scheme that also sounded too good to be true, that I tried to launch 2 years ago.

    (Edit - load of waffle removed!)

    So I know just what it's like for you, Mr. Too-good-to-be-true! So sorry, and good luck!

    PS: I absolutely love your Avatar!
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2004
  34. Nov 1, 2004
  35. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

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    1) Ping, you shouldn't be hijacking a thread to advertise your site.

    2) From the casino site it says affiliates get 30% of all of a player's losses - so presumably the only way you can afford to pay out in the case KasinoKing mentioned is because enough of the people who come through your site lose?

    3) There are many reputable sites sharing affiliate revenue from a number of casinos. Your site strikes me as highly suspicious seeing as it's only linked to a single casino which doesn't look like one of the most trustworthy around. This sort of get rich quick scheme is either likely to have a hidden sting, or to go under at any moment.

    4) Anyone who goes and deposits $5000 on the basis of an offer like this is being extremely reckless... why not stick to making an honest living bonus whoring instead of lining Ping's pockets? :D
     
  36. Nov 1, 2004
  37. DeMango

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    Spam! Spam! Spam!
     
  38. Nov 1, 2004
  39. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    :lolup: Hooray! Another Monty Python fan!!! :D

    OMG! Ive just had the most BRILLIANT idea!

    Ping, as I said above, the only way I would use your scheme is to deposit $5000, make the minimum wager & cash out my profit. This would be a minimum of $250 if I lost my hand of blackjack.
    But I dont want my $5000 tied up in your wager cycle for two weeks.
    So why dont you just pretend Ive done the above, send me $200 and keep $50 for yourself (for your time & trouble). Much quicker & easier, and were all winners! :thumbsup:
     

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