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Bonus hustling

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by sticon, Jan 6, 2003.

    Jan 6, 2003
  1. sticon

    sticon Dormant account

    I've got a question or three about bonus hustling.
    1) Is it worth it? I read beatwebcasinos.com but the info seems to be outdated.

    2) How much cover, if any, is needed? Do I have to have a bet spread, or can I flat bet? Is it recommended to play more than the min. play requirements, even if 15X, 20X, 30X deposit and bonus.

    3) Do the casinos 86 (throw out) alot of players for this?

    Any help would be a big help.
  2. Jan 7, 2003
  3. mary

    mary Dormant account

    The information in Haywood's book is outdated.

    Haywood wrote his book before the Great Credit Card Crash of 2002. Web casinos found themselves with drops in revenue anywhere from 20-80% (!!!) depending on how much exposure they had to US customers. They had to cut losses, and that included cracking down on bonuses.

    Secondly, there was price warfare between new operators and new software manufacturers, entering the market in 2002. The casinos began to advertise even better bonuses, higher percentages, that were potentially very self-destructive if they were not selective in how they paid. Real Time Gaming turnkeys became infamous for opening, advertising generous bonuses for initial deposits, and then screening out as many players to actually receive the bonuses as possible. The losing players had just provided the funding for a casino startup, and the winning players were portrayed as "bonus abusers" and blacklisted from collecting.

    They would be welcome to deposit at the next casino opening, if they so chose.

    If a Real Time Casino player wanted to withdraw a significant amount, they would be offered a bonus to reverse the withdrawal. They would then get a bonus, and have to meet the new wagering requirements. Withdrawals were stalled in this fashion as long as possible.

    Casinos 86 as many players as they can who are thought to be bonus hunters, or, too smart players. Wagering requirements have been tightened up to higher multiples and to exclude games such as bj,baccarat, craps, and roulette. The newer, smaller software providers are also more likely to have "rigged" software as far as the card games go.

    Opportunities still exist. The bookkeeping has become even more complicated and important than in Haywood's time. Expect to have to nag the casino about your withdrawals and bonuses. You will want to shop with care for your transaction processor, as you will not have the protection given by a credit card (unless you are outside of North America) Many Microgaming and Boss casinos offer good sign-up bonuses.

    Players have been accused of being bonus hunters for flat-betting. Players have been accused of being bonus hunters for using progressions. Break your play up into several sessions; exceed the wagering requirements; use Ad-Aware and Zone Alarm to protect your Internet privacy.
  4. Jan 17, 2003
  5. linda7

    linda7 Quit Gambling

    A mommy...best job ever!
    Brooklyn, NY
    Hi Mary,
    Your post regarding bonuses was very interesting. What concerns me though, is that casino's 86 winning players. I have seen it done to people I know. I find myself lately deleting more and more casinos. I feel bad that this is not a legitimate business, as I love to gamble from my home. However, I do not want to be robbed. I have had more than my share of thievery. I love this site, as it keeps me well informed of what is really going on out there.
    Any advice Mary on which casinos you really consider to be on the up and up?

    Thanks for your help.

  6. Jan 17, 2003
  7. mary

    mary Dormant account

    First, let me give a plug to the Meister's selection here--the advertisers. They should all give you a good game with no guff. Click on a banner ad and away you go.

    Should you have any problems, email the Meister and he'll contact the casino in question.

    After you've played through all of them, try these casinos with land-based facilities as well:

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (UK)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (AUS)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. and You must register/login in order to see the link. (UK)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (UK)

    If you have the good fortune to be in the UK,(because they don't take wagers from North America) try:

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (AUS)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (UK)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (USA)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (UK)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (Isle of Man regulated)

    I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of Crown, Tatt's, MGM and Hardrock since I can't play at any of them. Nor any other casinos with the same software.
  8. Jan 17, 2003
  9. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    I can add the sunny group of casinos to this list. I won a substantial prize last year and got paid promptly with no hassles whatsoever. And they continue to offer me bonuses, etc even though I'm 'up' on them.

    Those casinos are: Casino Fortune, Miami Beach Casino, Casino Mapau

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