New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Another £200 gone on 60p for that one and only filth fest.

I need a break.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

In fact I actually think I need my head testing.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

When you think you have a slight chance of recovery after days of heart ache and u get your first feature for 3 hrs which is a +5 and then a retrigger it still bends you over and fucks you up the ass.

A prison sentence would be more desirable than enduring the fucking disgraceful gameplay I’ve had to endure.

You don't 'have' to do anything.

If you go up against BTG, BTG is going to win, you saw what BTG did to me over in the Lil Devil thread. I could see myself disappearing into the vortex of chasing wins, chucking deposit after deposit in search of one of those monster hit that they sell themselves on.

In reality of course, we all know what a fool's errand it is, the only variable is how long before you do the smart thing and walk away. I did so before it had a chance to do too much damage, and looking back on it now, I'm very glad I did.

Bonanza in particular has a batshit maths model that makes it a really dangerous game IMO, we've picked it apart over and over in this very thread, so we all know what it is we're dealing with.

Sometimes the only winning move is to quit.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Like you did????

But then came back for more??

I know they are going to win. I just expect SOME kind of varying gameplay than deposit after deposit all doing exactly the same thing.

Bonanza is completely different to lil devil. I warned you about playing that. It eats money way faster than most slots but it’s the only BTG slot that can deliver monster wins.

But ur right. Walking away is the only winning move.

 

[snorky510238]

Bonanza didn’t used to have a crazy maths model though, it really didn’t. Lil Devil is a totally different beast though. Evidenced by the fact Lil Devil, can produce enormous wins in the x100,000 range, whereas as Bonanza struggles to produce x1,000, so you can’t begin to compare the two.

Bonanza used to be a go to, for many trying to complete wagering. Imagine trying to wager on Lil Devil.

 

[slotmaster]

Bonanza didn’t used to have a crazy maths model though, it really didn’t. Lil Devil is a totally different beast though. Evidenced by the fact Lil Devil, can produce enormous wins in the x100,000 range, whereas as Bonanza struggles to produce x1,000, so you can’t begin to compare the two.

Bonanza used to be a go to, for many trying to complete wagering. Imagine trying to wager on Lil Devil.

Snorky spitting facts! This is very true.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Bonanza has never had a crazy maths model.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If you think a 1/460 feature frequency isn't part of a crazy maths model, I really don't know what to tell you

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

That’s feature frequency not a crazy maths model.

We all know why its feature frequency is high. It’s because of its base game.

It maybe a complicated mechanic but the distribution of its RTP is fairly evident.

Lil devil feature frequency is actually very similar.

And guess what, lil devil can go off because it doesn’t have bonanzas base game.

Nothing batshit about that at all mate.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

That’s feature frequency not a crazy maths model.

We all know why its feature frequency is high. It’s because of its base game.

It maybe a complicated mechanic but the distribution of its RTP is fairly evident.

Lil devil feature frequency is actually very similar.

And guess what, lil devil can go off because it doesn’t have bonanzas base game.

Nothing batshit about that at all mate.

You do you man I'm not the one bashing my head against a Bonanza shaped brick wall to the point of insanity!

Personally I think people underestimate Bonanza's volatility, and the way its maths model really works against the player in quite a pernicious fashion.

dunover did a really good summary of it ages ago, somewhere back in this thread.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

There is nothing you can tell me about bonanza that I don’t already know.

I’m airing my grievances in a thread about bonanza after playing bonaza.

The reason why bonanza was so popular and still is, is because its volatility is actually quite low. Hence the 70 odd/ish % RTP is in the base.

Yes you can get ground down and thumped like me on a disaster run, but it’s way less volatile in terms of turnover than many a slot.

Even mentioning it in the same sentence and comparing it to lil devil is like chalk and cheese.

 

[snorky510238]

Bonanza absolutely WAS the best value for money slot ever imo. I say WAS because the way the wins are distributed HAS been changed 1,000,000 percent.

There is a slight possibility, that the rtp has remained the same but, the x200-500 wins have disappeared. The max ways produces a decent win about 5% of the time, if that, whilst the other 95% produces 0 or a poxy little win.

Consecutive losing spins very rarely went beyond 7 or 8 and that wasn’t often. Now you will see at least one streak of 10-15, every session.

The bonus rounds have always been fixed. There has never been a prayer that they are random. That was obvious to me from day one but now they have gimped the bonus rounds, you absolutely cannot fail to see how construed the outcomes are. I mean, if it was random, it would almost be impossible to end feature after feature with the multiplier going no higher than x8.

If the game had played as badly as it does now, from day 1, there is no way I would’ve continued playing it. I only played it like I did because there was real value, in the game.

Again, emphasis on WAS!

 

[geordiecolin]

I will reserve my judgement until I have completed my session on Snowflakes Bonanza while watching ManUre get trounced this evening. I have faith in being able to come back to confirm all of those awfully nasty things that your accused of

Well Snorky I went from 4op spinz to £2.00 and played at that rate for hours and my highest was £294. I hit the bonus with about £150 lefy which was shit and left with £200.
Still good value I would say and with a good chance of hitting the bonus next time I get to £2 spins next time given my own delusional logic
But feck what a piss take to get 1 bonus from a few hours on £2 quid!
Bastid slot!

 

[snorky510238]

Of course there will always be sessions that meet the expected outcome and very occasionally sessions that exceed it. To draw conclusions, samples of a few thousand spins here and there, mean nothing. 7 years plus and thousands of sessions and millions of spins and I think that puts me in quite a good position to judge.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Of course there will always be sessions that meet the expected outcome and very occasionally sessions that exceed it. To draw conclusions, samples of a few thousand spins here and there, mean nothing. 7 years plus and thousands of sessions and millions of spins and I think that puts me in quite a good position to judge.

Have you really done millions of spins on it though?

The game has been out for eight years, to do one million spins on it, you'd need to have done 342 spins on it every single day since it launched.

How many millions are you talking about? If you're claiming three million spins then that's an average of 1000 spins on Bonanza, every single day, for eight years.

Certainly doable, but that's a lot of spins.

If you have done three million spins, then you're going to be really close to T-RTP, so it stands to reason that you'll have lost quite a lot of money on it. If you've done three million spins at an average of 40p per spin, and achieved exactly 96% RTP, you've lost £48,000 playing Bonanza.

 

[snorky510238]

I have done over 2 million. In the days before it was gimped, I was doing over a thousand spins a day because it was viable. Nowadays it’s not remotely feasible.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

2 million is merely part time!!

At least this morning I have my £25 bonus to use with no wagering.

I’m already looking forward to the £12.20 I’ll get back from that!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I over estimated it…..

A lovely 35% return.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

But most importantly, did you have fun?

Remember, when the fun stops. Stop.

 

[dunover]

I over estimated it…..

A lovely 35% return.

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8.88?? If you were Chinese that'd be the luckiest number possible to end up with. I think it may be the clue to a run of impending huge fortune on the game...

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

But most importantly, did you have fun?

Remember, when the fun stops. Stop.

Nothing more fun than braining out mate.

You of all people should know that.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nothing more fun than braining out mate.

You of all people should know that.

I've had my moments

Got fucked for £300 last time I went to the pub in about 40 minutes. That was quite an unedifying experience.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I saw the video!! You had it coming.

£300 is hardly brains on £2 a spin is it tho!!

More of a very light pasting!!!

Holy shit I’ve got a feature of a 100x deposit.

Guesses in quick ….

 

[dunover]

Yes I saw the video!! You had it coming.

£300 is hardly brains on £2 a spin is it tho!!

More of a very light pasting!!!

Holy shit I’ve got a feature of a 100x deposit.

Guesses in quick ….

65x

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

65x?????!!!!!!!

Let me take u thru it spin by spin.

Just so you can imagine the joy I was experiencing. I was filming a shitty old work monitor so quality not great.

Let’s start with spin number 1.. fairly standard I think you’ll agree.