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Bodog.com seized by United States Homeland Security

Discussion in 'Casinomeister's Poker Room' started by Jennifer, Feb 28, 2012.

    Feb 28, 2012
  1. Jennifer

    Jennifer Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Does anyone know why United States Homeland Security would seize Bodog.com when it hasnt been operational in months? Seems pretty weird.

    And just to add, its kind of scary to see them STILL going after gambling websites and seizing them...lol even ones not operational..
     
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  3. pmutts

    pmutts Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    Maybe that is why they are Bodog.eu now . . .

    I'm curious, what is your source on this?
     
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  5. Jennifer

    Jennifer Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Sorry I just got a text from a friend of mine but now that Ive had a minute I found this article You must register/login in order to see the link.

    They speculate this could be the reason
     
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  7. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    This information is accurate, it just happened. It was seized by Homeland Security. Look up Bodog.com and u will see. I really dont see the big deal, bodog.com has been dormant for some time, since they switched to their new address.
     
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  9. cheetahwind

    cheetahwind Wind Blade Maker MM

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    Kind looks like another round of law suites are coming up here real quick. Granted they haven't used Bodog.com for a while, but I'm going to take a guess that there getting ready for another round of UIGEA violations ordeals. Granted they no longer are taking bets, I"m sure the investigation has been going on for a while before they shut down to the US anyways.
     
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  11. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

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    it shows as seized for me too, but they havent used that domain in a long time.. using the .eu .ca and .co.uk and they all work..
     
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  13. pokeraddict

    pokeraddict Webmaster

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    This is a non event. This was bound to happen which is why Bodog and others have stopped using their .coms.
     
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  15. Surasanji

    Surasanji Experienced Member

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    Yup. Does appear to be pretty well seized at this time!

    My question is: Does anyone know what gives the right to HOMELAND SECURITY to seize an internet domain like that? Wouldn't it be under some kind of civil law, even with the wire-act?

    I'm just not sure how 'Illegal' internet gambling is under the jurisdiction of a group called 'Homeland Security'- its a questionable act.

    Then again, I'm an Expat American who feels the United States he was raised to support is not the same that exists in its current form. I'm of the feeling that my homeland is sick.

    In the sense that its got a disease, or an illness- something that can be cured... But, I'm no doctor. And I'm certainly no revolutionary. :p

    Instead, I decided to go somewhere else!

    But the fact remains: These are the first steps.
    Be not blind to the loss of your liberty and freedom.
    And remember: If you worship your freedom as you would a god- people will use it against you.
    You will only be free when you accept not others deciding your freedom, and think not of it in your waking life.
    When it ceases to become a longing, and becomes like breathing: Something you just can't imagine not doing, and would be appalled with the very concept of someone removing from you.

    These are just the smallest first steps.
     
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  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Two important points from the article:

    and...
    With news like this, I'm ashamed to be an American. Homeland Security was set up to protect the "homeland" from terrorist attacks. A domain name is not an instrument of terrorism in any sense. Islamic jihad chat groups are what the HS should be concerned about - not bodog.com.
     
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  19. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Damn right - it's another example of officialdom misusing supposedly national security laws for other purposes - remember the recent copyright extraditions?
     
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  21. P.V.

    P.V. Senior Member webmeister

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    I get what you're saying CM, many years ago when all I had was a WebTV, no real computer I purchased the domain Tennesseelottery.com. TN hadn't even considered a lottery back in those days, then many years later when they formed a Lottery they took it away like candy. Same thing happening here with OC's.

    BTW, their domain is TNlottery so why take mine? :p

    I touched base on the .com issue back in June 2011: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...on/44467-gambling-com-domains.html#post431053

    IMO this is only going to get worse as the states legalize interactive gaming and they'll seize all domains providing online gambling to their residents whether it's done by the DOJ or the states them self. States will warn the ISP's, DOJ will shut you down! I would advise all OC's and sites promoting gaming within the US to have an alternative domain asap, or start forwarding to another now so its known by everyone.

    I don't agree with the process but it's been coming for quite some time and will get worse as time moves forward, JMO.
     
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  23. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    I thought the US was heavily in debt. This is surely a complete waste of money, investigating and seizing a domain that has been dead for months. What will the voters think when they hear that money is not just being spent shutting down still active gambling domains, but going after long dead domains of businesses no longer taking US bets.

    What next, seizure of ministeringangel(dot)com, XXLclub(dot)com.

    Government spending everywhere is a big issue, but when everybody is being told their is no money for what is seen as the "essentials", the last thing any government wants is to be caught WASTING money.

    Revenge is a personal matter, and should NOT be pursued by individuals through the use of state funds or machinery.

    If covered properly, this could be an embarrassment to the Obama administration, already under fire for it's "out of control" spending. This is the kind of example our own right wing press seizes upon when Labour is in power, and an election is looming.
     
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  25. threescatters

    threescatters Dormant account PABnonaccred

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    could not agree more
     
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  27. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    It's infuriating, it's embarrassing.... Wasn't Homeland Security involved in some of the most recent public seizures? And I could never quite figure out why?

    Just because the big fat ugly stinky gorilla in our living room wasn't making noises lately doesn't mean he wasn't planning on crapping on our favorite sofa again.
     
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  29. harrys99

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    And yet another example of one of the worst administrations the US has ever had.
     
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  31. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    All those years that Bodog operated in the US, post UIGEA and they wait until it has been dormant for months and then seize it. Sounds a bit fishy to me....
     
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  33. Luckylizzy

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    I wonder.. are .eu and other non-.com domains safe from US seizures or can they seize those as well if they are in violation of gambling laws?
     
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  35. Jennifer

    Jennifer Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    You must register/login in order to see the link.

     
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  37. IanO

    IanO Regular Human

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    The reason the DOJ has had an easy time of seizing the .com’s of online gaming companies is that regardless of where the company registers the domain, it’s all comes down to an American Company, VeriSign being the absolute authority of the .com and .net domain extensions.

    When the DOJ needs a site shut down, it doesn’t take much more than a phone call to one of the American domain registrars and the online gambling company’s right to use that domain name will be revoked without much of a fight. Of the ten domains seized, seven were registered in the US, six with Godaddy.com and the other with Register.com.
     
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  39. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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    There is nothing that the current administration does that surprises me anymore and looks like our choices for a replacement are about as ba.d.

    I guess the best Homeland Security can do is go after a defunct .com site.

    I am beyond disgusted.
     

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