Blackjack rules changed in the UK

[gfkostas]

Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

Good news

 

[lojo]

Thanks (Good to see you as well!)

Are all of the other rules standardized casino to casino, or do they vary? i.e dealer hit soft 17 stay hard at one casino and not another? Just curious, and if there is an absolute standard would you be so kind as to post it or someone point me to it?

Good Cheer!

 

[winbig]

Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

Good news

I wish they had rule #1 in the USA!!! I wonder why they changed it The only reason I could see to split 4/5/10's is if you're in a tournament

 

[GaryWatson]

Yeah I noticed the change a few months ago. Theres no way in hell Im gonna split 5's &10's

 

[gfkostas]

double post, delete!

 

[gfkostas]

Thanks (Good to see you as well!)

Are all of the other rules standardized casino to casino, or do they vary? i.e dealer hit soft 17 stay hard at one casino and not another? Just curious, and if there is an absolute standard would you be so kind as to post it or someone point me to it?

Good Cheer!

Very rarely british casinos have different rules. You will find the same everywhere.

I wish they had rule #1 in the USA!!! I wonder why they changed it The only reason I could see to split 4/5/10's is if you're in a tournament

Actually splitting 4's is advisable when dealer shows a 5's and 6's.

Yeah I noticed the change a few months ago. Theres no way in hell Im gonna split 5's &10's

Many do especially against 5's and 6's

 

[aka23]

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

Good news

The house edge is not 0.47%, at least not unless they also removed the European no peek rules. Assuming 6 decks, stand on S17, no resplits, deck is not shuffled after each hand, and basic strategy without CD exceptions. Both Wizard of Odds house edge calc and my house edge calc estimate 0.589%.

 

[aka23]

Actually splitting 4's is advisable when dealer shows a 5's and 6's.

Yes, when DAS is allowed, it is favorable to split 4s against a 5 or 6. It's a close call that only decreases house edge by ~0.003%. I'm surprised they ever restriced these splits. Many players do like to split 10s, and letting them do so favors the casino.

 

[gfkostas]

The house edge is not 0.47%, at least not unless they also removed the European no peek rules. Assuming 6 decks, stand on S17, no resplits, deck is not shuffled after each hand, and basic strategy without CD exceptions. Both Wizard of Odds house edge calc and my house edge calc estimate 0.589%.

You must be forgetting something. I check with the calc and it shows a realistic return of 0.47%

 

[aka23]

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[acw]

Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

Good news

What is the house edge, if you add Early Surrender (except against an Ace) to it? All casinos in Macau offer this.

 

[aka23]

What is the house edge, if you add Early Surrender (except against an Ace) to it? All casinos in Macau offer this.

The house edge calc on my site is the only one I know of that includes early surrender against 9-10 (but not ace). See

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[BBKPoker]

Yes, when DAS is allowed, it is favorable to split 4s against a 5 or 6. It's a close call that only decreases house edge by ~0.003%. I'm surprised they ever restriced these splits. Many players do like to split 10s, and letting them do so favors the casino.

Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.

 

[GaryWatson]

Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.

+4 of what? I cannot imagine it applying to online. I would say, never split 10's online ever

 

[GaryWatson]

I dont play much blackjack online but all I can say is the one pack game reshuffles every hand. No counting strategy applies.

Then there is the random 6 or 8 pack, This only means you can have 8 of the same card at the one table, but again, the cards are reshuffled. No counting strategy applies.

Again when the dealer has a 6 and I have 5,5. I wont split, I'll double down. I would say that offers me better odds

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Many do especially against 5's and 6's

 

[GaryWatson]

+4 of what? I cannot imagine it applying to online. I would say, never split 10's online ever

I have strayed onto the wrong forum again

Still wont split 10's ant certainly not 5's

 

[winbig]

Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.

Don't let the pit boss see you doing that, especially in Vegas...they'll take your ass out to the desert, shoot you, and leave you

 

[RobWin]

Don't let the pit boss see you doing that, especially in Vegas...they'll take your ass out to the desert, shoot you, and leave you

You got that right >>>>:sniper:

 

[winbig]

FWIW, card counting isn't illegal, unless you use some sort of device to assist in counting. That still doesn't mean they can throw you out for it...

 

[lojo]

Yeah, better practice counting in a mirror no tapping fingers, mumbling lips, looking up and to the left (or right) before placing bet.

It was important to find out what was really happening with eye accessing cues in the brain because all across the country law enforcement officers, border patrol and even military personnel <blackjack dealers?>are being taught information that was never researched or tested. and it turns out that we had eye accessing cues completely wrong.

bold mine

 

[fgsteiner]

Rules in other European Countries

I will be travelling around Europe and I wanted to know where is a good source to find the rules/odds of different European countries?

Thanks

 

[gfkostas]

I will be travelling around Europe and I wanted to know where is a good source to find the rules/odds of different European countries?

Thanks

Best odds can be found in east european countries such us Czech,Hungary etc. They use 6 decks,split up to 4 times, surrender available under some circumstances which i couldn't understand due to the dealers crap english and double down on any 2 cards. I did find it very frustrating that in a Czech casino none of the dealers could speak a single english word. They could only call the numbers in english so be aware of miscommunications.

 

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[Matthew23]

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[Jasminebed]

Soft 17

Might not be the most on point post to OP, but Casino de LacLeamy (Gatineau, Quebec), but changed to hit on soft 17 a couple of years ago. I know it means only about 1 in 200 hands for me, but there are usually 10 players per table, so 1 in twenty for the house. I hate when casinos are greedy when they are already winning. Coincided with loss of smoking at tables & hence loss of customers at table.

I smoke, but loss of smoking at tables is not a bad thing.