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Blackjack online for Card Counters

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by WinPlayer, Nov 27, 2004.

    Nov 27, 2004
  1. WinPlayer

    WinPlayer Dormant account

    Location:
    Switzerland
    I am looking for an online casino that is worthwhile to play for a card counter. That means no more than 6 decks, no shuffling each time, etc. Does anybody know such a casino online?
    Thanks for your response.
     
  2. Nov 28, 2004
  3. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK

    Cryptologic ones shuffle after 4 decks gone.They do use 8 decks though.Can't think of an other.....
     
  4. Nov 28, 2004
  5. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    The penetration is more like 2 decks in my experience, not enough for a counter to gain an advantage, unless you use some extreme spread (there are $10-$2000 tables) or just watch the game and Wong in when the count is high enough. Global Player is another one which has shoe games with some penetration.
     
  6. Nov 29, 2004
  7. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account


    GrandMaster, I think Intercasino shuffles at 4 decks, and the OTHER Cryptologics do it at 2 decks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  8. Nov 29, 2004
  9. YuraK

    YuraK Webmaster webmeister

    Occupation:
    webmaster
    Location:
    Russia
    You can try live games at Playtech for example. I think they shuffle about 50% of the deck.
     
  10. Nov 29, 2004
  11. Yoshimura

    Yoshimura Dormant account

    Location:
    Japan
    Global Player

    Hi, Grandmaster
    I'd like to try global player's BJ, but I cannot know when the cards are shuffled.
    Could you tell me how to know it ?
    I think Vegas Strip & Atlantic city BJ are shoe games and card counting can gain a scant advantage.
     
  12. Nov 29, 2004
  13. Clayman

    Clayman Dormant account

    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    It was more like 2 decks last time I played the Inter multi-deck multi-player game. If that. Either way, all you have to do is count the number of cards played before the shuffle to know for sure. Maybe it's possible in practice mode. I'd check that out first.

    And you won't have an advantage until a TC +2 since a TC +1 merely nullifies the HA making it a coin-toss. Rule of thumb is each TC increase is worth about 0.5%.

    Still, if you want, at least you can have some fun by deviating from BS when TC +1 or TC -1 are reached.
     
  14. Nov 29, 2004
  15. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    financail adviser
    Location:
    London, England
    Although on the crypto multi table BJ the dealer "shuffles" the cards every few rounds I am sure I read somewhere that they are actually shuffled after every round. The "shuffle" is just to make the game feel like a normal B&M game.

    Not 100% on this BTW.
     
  16. Nov 30, 2004
  17. Yoshimura

    Yoshimura Dormant account

    Location:
    Japan
    Resolved. :)
     
  18. Dec 1, 2004
  19. YuraK

    YuraK Webmaster webmeister

    Occupation:
    webmaster
    Location:
    Russia
    They really shuffle after 33% (I suppose) at multiplayers tables, every game shuffle at single.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2004
  21. Thatchatch

    Thatchatch Dormant account

    Location:
    Toronto ON Canada
    And I always thought that card counting online was only good to keep sharp for BM casinos, since my understanding that the deck(s), online, no matter how many, were re-shuffled every hand.

    What am/was I missing?

    Regards,

    Thatch
     
  22. Dec 7, 2004
  23. sw2003

    sw2003 Dormant account

    Location:
    somewhere :)

    You have missed the thread itself! If you do, you will know what you are missing! The answer was discussed in the few posts just before yours! :lolup:
     
  24. Dec 13, 2004
  25. WinPlayer

    WinPlayer Dormant account

    Location:
    Switzerland
    Only one Casino does not shuffle after each hand

    Unfortunatly, all the mentioned casinos shuffle after each hand (just check out their rules).
    There is only one casino that is different: You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Rule: For all card games, the cards are shuffled when the yellow 'shuffle marker' card is dealt, which is generally after 4 of the 8 decks have been dealt.
    However, still not worth to play. So why play at all online?
    What makes me angry are those "live" casinos. Nothing is really "live". So take care!
     
  26. Jul 29, 2005
  27. global

    global Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Online Casino Manager
    Location:
    Antigua
    In the upper left-hand corner, you will see the discard box, where all the cards from the table end up after the round finishes. You can see the discard box fill up as the game progresses. When, after the end of a round, the discard box reaches a given size (or when the number of cards left in the shoe reaches a given minimum), the cards from the discard box are removed, shuffled together with the cards in the shoe, and placed back into the shoe. At this stage the discard box is empty.
     

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