Blackjack online for Card Counters

WinPlayer

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I am looking for an online casino that is worthwhile to play for a card counter. That means no more than 6 decks, no shuffling each time, etc. Does anybody know such a casino online?
Thanks for your response.
 

gfkostas

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WinPlayer said:
I am looking for an online casino that is worthwhile to play for a card counter. That means no more than 6 decks, no shuffling each time, etc. Does anybody know such a casino online?
Thanks for your response.

Cryptologic ones shuffle after 4 decks gone.They do use 8 decks though.Can't think of an other.....
 

GrandMaster

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gfkostas said:
Cryptologic ones shuffle after 4 decks gone.They do use 8 decks though.Can't think of an other.....
The penetration is more like 2 decks in my experience, not enough for a counter to gain an advantage, unless you use some extreme spread (there are $10-$2000 tables) or just watch the game and Wong in when the count is high enough. Global Player is another one which has shoe games with some penetration.
 

paul1

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GrandMaster said:
The penetration is more like 2 decks in my experience, not enough for a counter to gain an advantage, unless you use some extreme spread (there are $10-$2000 tables) or just watch the game and Wong in when the count is high enough. Global Player is another one which has shoe games with some penetration.

GrandMaster, I think Intercasino shuffles at 4 decks, and the OTHER Cryptologics do it at 2 decks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Yoshimura

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Global Player

GrandMaster said:
The penetration is more like 2 decks in my experience, not enough for a counter to gain an advantage, unless you use some extreme spread (there are $10-$2000 tables) or just watch the game and Wong in when the count is high enough. Global Player is another one which has shoe games with some penetration.
Hi, Grandmaster
I'd like to try global player's BJ, but I cannot know when the cards are shuffled.
Could you tell me how to know it ?
I think Vegas Strip & Atlantic city BJ are shoe games and card counting can gain a scant advantage.
 

Clayman

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paul1 said:
GrandMaster, I think Intercasino shuffles at 4 decks, and the OTHER Cryptologics do it at 2 decks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
It was more like 2 decks last time I played the Inter multi-deck multi-player game. If that. Either way, all you have to do is count the number of cards played before the shuffle to know for sure. Maybe it's possible in practice mode. I'd check that out first.

And you won't have an advantage until a TC +2 since a TC +1 merely nullifies the HA making it a coin-toss. Rule of thumb is each TC increase is worth about 0.5%.

Still, if you want, at least you can have some fun by deviating from BS when TC +1 or TC -1 are reached.
 

nafanny29

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Although on the crypto multi table BJ the dealer "shuffles" the cards every few rounds I am sure I read somewhere that they are actually shuffled after every round. The "shuffle" is just to make the game feel like a normal B&M game.

Not 100% on this BTW.
 

Yoshimura

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Yoshimura said:
Hi, Grandmaster
I'd like to try global player's BJ, but I cannot know when the cards are shuffled.
Could you tell me how to know it ?
I think Vegas Strip & Atlantic city BJ are shoe games and card counting can gain a scant advantage.
Resolved. :)
 

YuraK

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nafanny29 said:
Although on the crypto multi table BJ the dealer "shuffles" the cards every few rounds I am sure I read somewhere that they are actually shuffled after every round. The "shuffle" is just to make the game feel like a normal B&M game.
Not 100% on this BTW.
They really shuffle after 33% (I suppose) at multiplayers tables, every game shuffle at single.
 

Thatchatch

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And I always thought that card counting online was only good to keep sharp for BM casinos, since my understanding that the deck(s), online, no matter how many, were re-shuffled every hand.

What am/was I missing?

Regards,

Thatch
 

sw2003

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Thatchatch said:
And I always thought that card counting online was only good to keep sharp for BM casinos, since my understanding that the deck(s), online, no matter how many, were re-shuffled every hand.

What am/was I missing?

Regards,

Thatch

You have missed the thread itself! If you do, you will know what you are missing! The answer was discussed in the few posts just before yours! :lolup:
 

WinPlayer

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Only one Casino does not shuffle after each hand

Unfortunatly, all the mentioned casinos shuffle after each hand (just check out their rules).
There is only one casino that is different:
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Rule: For all card games, the cards are shuffled when the yellow 'shuffle marker' card is dealt, which is generally after 4 of the 8 decks have been dealt.
However, still not worth to play. So why play at all online?
What makes me angry are those "live" casinos. Nothing is really "live". So take care!
 

global

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Yoshimura said:
I'd like to try global player's BJ, but I cannot know when the cards are shuffled. Could you tell me how to know it?
In the upper left-hand corner, you will see the discard box, where all the cards from the table end up after the round finishes. You can see the discard box fill up as the game progresses. When, after the end of a round, the discard box reaches a given size (or when the number of cards left in the shoe reaches a given minimum), the cards from the discard box are removed, shuffled together with the cards in the shoe, and placed back into the shoe. At this stage the discard box is empty.
 

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