Blackjack HA without Doubling & Splitting

aka23

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I am trying to decide the best use of a sticky bonus. This is a bonus that can only be used for wagering. Winnings can be cashed out. Some options are:

1. All on Roulette Spin -- 1:1 pay, such as red/black
2. All on BJ Hand (no doubling or splitting)
3. Half on BJ Hand (doubling or splitting available)

I suspect that #1 has the highest expected return. I'm hoping someone has worked out these odds before.
 
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Macgyver said:
Most bonuses (sticky or otherwise) aren't going to let you play roulette, so that leaves option #1 out.
This particular bonus is at Winward Casino. Their bonus rules are listed at
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. It is clear that you can't play roulette to meet the wagering requirement or other games that offer minimal risk bets (bet on both red and black). However, I believe that once you have met the wagering requirements and received the sticky bonus, you can play any game. I'll contact support to confirm.

EDIT: I confirmed with support. There are no restrictions after having received the sticky bonus, making all 3 options available.
 
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I found a portion of the odds at wizard of odds:

"What is the added house edge in blackjack if players are never allowed to double nor split?

No splitting costs the player 0.58%.
No doubling costs the player 1.47%.
No splitting nor doubling costs the player 1.91%. April 3, 2005"

So

Option #1: House Edge = 5.3% American, 2.7% European
Option #2: House Edge = 0.5% + 1.9% = 2.4%
 

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Betting everything on the banker in Baccarat is far better than playing roulette or BJ without splits/doubles.
 

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bpb said:
Betting everything on the banker in Baccarat is far better than playing roulette or BJ without splits/doubles.
That's an excellent idea that I will use at other casinos. However, Winward does not offer Baccarat. The available games are BJ, roulette, slots, VP, keno, and craps. Looking at this list, a bet on craps Don't Pass seems like a good choice with a lower house edge than above.
 
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bpb said:
Betting everything on the banker in Baccarat is far better than playing roulette or BJ without splits/doubles.
why is that. The Banker has a 5% commision, but BJ is 2.7% house edge?
 

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uungy said:
why is that. The Banker has a 5% commision, but BJ is 2.7% house edge?
The banker is more likely to win than the player. The cancels out a portion of the comission, leaving a low house edge.
 

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You might consider putting it all on the bonus square in 3-card poker. It has a lower house advantage than either Euro roulette or one-bet BJ. Plus losing more often means your EV will go up.
 

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option 3 would give you the highest return. You only lose a VERY small amount more than normal BJ because you can't split and then double. The HA should be around .51% or so.
 

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Sorry to pour cold water, but the obvious snag here is betting your entire bankroll on just one or two bets gives you a higher than 50% chance of busting out in 20 seconds! :eek:

Is it really worth downloading, registering & depositing with a casino against such a risk?

Why don't you just play 'normally' with the extra free chips; if you get lucky - great, if you bust out - not so great, but at least you'll have got something for your money! (i.e. extra playing time!)

Whatever you do... good luck! :thumbsup:
 

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KasinoKing said:
Sorry to pour cold water, but the obvious snag here is betting your entire bankroll on just one or two bets gives you a higher than 50% chance of busting out in 20 seconds! :eek:

Is it really worth downloading, registering & depositing with a casino against such a risk?

Why don't you just play 'normally' with the extra free chips; if you get lucky - great, if you bust out - not so great, but at least you'll have got something for your money! (i.e. extra playing time!)

Whatever you do... good luck! :thumbsup:
Winward has an interesting bonus. You play and meet the wagering requirement, then receive the sticky bonus. It remains after withdrawing the rest of your cash. I have met the wagering requirement playing "normally," while making a nice gain. I withdrew my deposit and "normal" winnings, so all that remains is the $500 sticky bonus.
 

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Linus said:
You might consider putting it all on the bonus square in 3-card poker. It has a lower house advantage than either Euro roulette or one-bet BJ. Plus losing more often means your EV will go up.
WOA lists Pairplus 3-card poker as having a 2.3% house edge and Ante & play as having a 3.4% house advantage. The SD of this game is higher than BJ and roulette.
 
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