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Black Widow Cashout

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by toofast4u, Sep 20, 2003.

    Sep 20, 2003
  1. toofast4u

    toofast4u Dormant account

    I know, I know, Black Widow is listed in the rogue section. I can see why, I made a cashout on the 17th, the following day I called to verify the withdrawl. They told me that it would take 7-10 days for the withdrawl. Then they turn around and say it will be longer than the 7-10 day wait. They couldn't even verify when the withdrawl will go out. I will be surprised if I get it at all, talk about poor customer service. Anyways, if they dont have it to me by next week I am going to raise as much hell as I can until I get my money. Their website states up to 5 days for a cashout. BS!!!!!
  2. Sep 21, 2003
  3. phoenix

    phoenix Dormant account

    Why should it even take 5 DAYS to get your cashout!! When you make a deposit your funds are taken immediately, if not sooner. It just ranckles me to see this.
  4. Sep 21, 2003
  5. toofast4u

    toofast4u Dormant account

    its a psychological game, they know the longer the funds are there the more likely you are to play with it. But, this case is complete B.S. They are pretty much like, we want your money right now, but If we owe you, we will pay you when we feel like it, if we feel like it. Th
  6. Sep 21, 2003
  7. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    You'll NEVER get a 5 day cashin from Black Widow or Grand Banks. They will screw with you as long as possible, even longer if you ever accept any bonuses from them. Expect it to take AT LEAST a month to get your money, maybe more.
  8. Sep 21, 2003
  9. toofast4u

    toofast4u Dormant account

    So you are saying they will pay me, however it will take a long time???
  10. Sep 21, 2003
  11. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    You'll probably get paid, but they will drag it out as long as possible if they can't find a reason to deny it. If this is your first cashin, be sure you ask them if they need any faxback forms, etc to process your withdrawl. They would probably wait till the 'waiting period' has expired and then reverse it back to your account saying they need documents and start the whole procedure over again.

    Look for the story Bryan posted after meeting with the owner of that group up in canada a few months ago. Its quite enlightening.
  12. Sep 21, 2003
  13. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    What the hell toofast4u?

    You've ben a member for some time now in this forum, so you've been privy to all the devious things this casino group has been up to. I'm kind of speechless...

    I've spent hours of my time merely writing about these dweebs. Do you think I do this for funny ha-ha's?? No, I do this to warn players, you included. What did you expect from BW?

    If I tell you the water has been poisoned, would you still drink it??
  14. Sep 21, 2003
  15. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Toofast4u, I'm pretty confident that you'll get your money but I'm also confident that the pay-out will be along the lines of 30 days as per JPM's thought.

    But in the future you'd better watch out, Black Widow and Grand Banks are train wrecks looking for a place to happen. Have a good one.

  16. Sep 22, 2003
  17. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    LOL cipher, you put that SO well. I love that, a train wreck looking for a place to happen. Describes them perfectly!
  18. Sep 22, 2003
  19. jetset

    jetset RIP Brian CAG

    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    This is absolutely standard operating procedure for these people, and it seems to work for them because they're still in business and that means that people (even those who have had ample warning) continue to play there and then put up with their BS.

    Sorry to hear about your stress, toofast - but CM has been warning everyone for ages now, and on other sites there are similar tales of woe.
  20. Sep 22, 2003
  21. toofast4u

    toofast4u Dormant account

    its not like I had a lot of money wrapped up in it though, I only bought it for $50
  22. Sep 29, 2003
  23. worldtraveler

    worldtraveler Dormant account

    I finally got my money today from Blackwidow. I cashed out July 19th. yes this is not a typo. It ook them over two months to pay. Thier policy is: the more you win, the longer you wait. Thye want to discourage repeat winners from playing.
  24. Sep 29, 2003
  25. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    They sure do worldtraveler! If you like to lose, then you're welcome at Black Widow & Grand Banks. If you like to win, you won't be happy. They'll pretend to like you and welcome you, but they will make you wait forever for your money. Stay away!
  26. Sep 29, 2003
  27. worldtraveler

    worldtraveler Dormant account

    Thanks jpm, but I will NOT stay away. I am just making too much money off them. I'll just play after they pay me, even if it takes them two months to pay. I have enough bankroll to ride, but their tactic is successfull at slowing me down. They cannot afford to have a reputation of not paying. But they can live with a reputation of slow paying winners. After all, they don't want those winners...
  28. Sep 30, 2003
  29. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    Well don't say you weren't warned. Slow pay is typically a tactic used by a casino in financial trouble, basically borrowing from peter (new players) to pay paul (old winners). Its been shown time & time again, the latest being Atlantic Interbet. There were alot of players there who said the same thing as you, I'm making too much money and I don't mind them paying slow. Unfortunately for them, AIB up and closed about a year ago and most of them never saw their money again (including some employees even!).

    Keep that in mind so that when it does happen there (and I think it will), you won't get any sympathy here. And I think they are on the rogue list as well, so I don't think Bryan would be too keen on helping at that point either.

    Now its your choice to learn from history or repeat it!
  30. Oct 1, 2003
  31. worldtraveler

    worldtraveler Dormant account

    Thanks again jpm. I will be careful.
  32. Oct 2, 2003
  33. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

    They were doing this from the start years ago although they claimed amazingly fast cashouts on their websites. I haven't played there since they switched software.
  34. Oct 2, 2003
  35. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    They were quicker way back when they were RTG. I played there alot then and I think it was about 1.5 week average for a paypal withdrawl. It was nowhere near as bad as it is now.
  36. Nov 6, 2003
  37. venetian

    venetian Dormant account

    Corp Director for a College
    Grand Banks is awful at paying out! I now have a withdrawal pending for 30 days. I will not play there again. Although I will say that in the past I won big there. One weekend I got 3 $4000 royal flushes!!! And yes I did get paid, but it took a long time.So long that I eventually put $4000 back in. It is hard to leave a place that lets you win, but I can't feel safe at a place where getting your winning is a crap shoot!
  38. Nov 6, 2003
  39. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Avenel, New Jersey
    Did you make a Neteller deposit and ask for a Neteller withdrawal?

    The reason why I ask is that I also win there.
    But, payouts DO take 30 days or more and then you have to keep chasing them for your money. Even with a Neteller account!

    I asked Neteller to look into this problem.
    Grand Banks and Black Widow BOTH emailed me and said that they are backlogged with Neteller withdrawals and to please be patient.

    They also told me that if I wanted, get a Prepaid ATM card and they would send my money to the card instead of Neteller and that it would be faster.


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