Bitstarz and streamers

goatwack

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There isn't anyone who can genuinely deposit £2000 per week and expect to be taken at face value, it's a load of tripe

Nor is it 'their' money as it is funded through the affiliation side of things, caused in no small part to players' heavy losses. The 'best' streamers are the ones that have that side nailed down as it forms their 'income', which is then recycled as their 'own' money

And I guess to keep those signups a-rollin' they have to put on a bit of a lights and sound show, maybe do a little dance to keep their victims engaged. But please, PLEASE let's not pretend that any of this is by their own design and that depositing £2K a week is a natural or remotely realistic thing :laugh:
 

interlog

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Come on interlog you know all about streaming. Of course he has to deposit 2k of his own money first, Who doesnt?
Well the person mentioned in the OP didn't have to deposit for a starter..... and there are more of them out there.
 

wobble33

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You know who i quoted interlog, and it was not the OP. But its fine just 1 of many i believe that too.

If you look at my quote prevoius page that i quoted DAVE1888 i DID say it was a deposit bonus.
 
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mcgameboy

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Bit late to the Party - seemingly i missed Playford wrestling semi nude, covered only in cheese sauce.

Oh well, always next Saturday.
Is that sauce made from plain old cheese? Or....gulp....goat's cheese?

Or to put it another way.....

G's sauce instead of cheese sauce?

Well that's the tone lowered a notch or two....time to exit stage left before the ban hammers get brandished

:eek: :eek2: :axeman:
 

pinnit2014

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Is that sauce made from plain old cheese? Or....gulp....goat's cheese?

Or to put it another way.....

G's sauce instead of cheese sauce?

Well that's the tone lowered a notch or two....time to exit stage left before the ban hammers get brandished

:eek: :eek2: :axeman:
ALL the cheese.

Yes, let's keep the thread highbrow and lead us not into denigration, like a shower of reprobates.
 

mcgameboy

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ALL the cheese.

Yes, let's keep the thread highbrow and lead us not into denigration, like a shower of reprobates.
Never thought I would see the day when someone called for a thread to do with streamers to be "kept highbrow".... :laugh:

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Playford7

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Bit late to the Party - seemingly i missed Playford wrestling semi nude, covered only in cheese sauce.

Oh well, always next Saturday.
Lol all the cheese is accounted for, hence my Michelin star corona cooking post..

can do jelly or bbq sauce if your that interested mate?...
 

Playford7

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Never thought I would see the day when someone called for a thread to do with streamers to be "kept highbrow".... :laugh:

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I beg your pardon...
My rants are worthy of the spectator I’ll have thee know!...
 

colinsunderland

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I'll be sure to rub my crystal balls and predict the future of every casino's operating license in future just for your satisfaction sir.
With respect, Genesis were always on the poor side, and they were always going to get in the shit for the 'reserve bank' they introduced as soon as reverse was banned.
While you might not be able to predict the future, I think anyone involved in promoting casinos and caring about responsible gaming issues, would have stopped promoting them, when they did that, rather than wait for their license to be withdrawn.
Did you honestly think that blatantly doing a work round to get round LCCP changes wouldn't have any comeback on them?
 

CasinoNinja

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@BitStarz What would have happened if this streamer who could not cash out any money won a progressive jackpot? Hope the casino wouldn't "steal" it...
 

Wondah

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And my question is if it does affect the rtp for others playing the same slot, because he is playing with “fake” money on “real” money slots.

I don’t really understand how it works but let’s say he got a full screen top symbol on book of dead, does that mean another player won’t get that one?
 

dionysus

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And my question is if it does affect the rtp for others playing the same slot, because he is playing with “fake” money on “real” money slots.

I don’t really understand how it works but let’s say he got a full screen top symbol on book of dead, does that mean another player won’t get that one?
No.
spins are irrelevant to the next spin or next player.

RTP is calculated over vast numbers and each spin is independent
 

dionysus

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It's an old, and tired, and trotted out analogy, but for the purpose of your Q it holds true.

Compare a slot machine to a bag of marbles, containing 9 black and one white (yes, yes, there's all gradients between...hang tight)


You dip in, youve that one in 10 chance grabbing the white marble (a win)
You spin again.
That marble isnt missing from the bag - it's put back one, youve still the 1 in 10 chance.


You get up leave, another player sits down.
Same deal.
That white marble goes back into the bag.
That player has the same 1 in 10 chance and for every subsequent dip (spin)

Overly-simplisitic, but you get the idea :)
 

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Well, id still dare to claim its affecting games with jackpots if they win with fake money.

Unless the casinos allow them to cash that out.
 

Playford7

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It’s streamers guys.. lol

no more needs to be said..
 

mack341

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It is an interesting moral issue if I'm understanding it correctly, via the funding given to the streamer the casino is effectively playing the games which have taken money from the public, but the casino in effect will hardly lose anything [only the cut they have to pay the slot provider 1%? or something like that] all the other losses roll back into their bank account along with the wins?

A bit like if somebody had their own physical casino with slot machines taking the public's money, but they can play the machines and just take their lost coins back out?

It's a bit hot and muggy today, so I could be confused but this scenario sounds a bit dodgy.

edit: if this is the same group that roshtein was affliated to, does it raise questions as to whether he was indeed spinning $50 of his own money at a time.
 
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Playford7

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It is an interesting moral issue if I'm understanding it correctly, via the funding given to the streamer the casino is effectively playing the games which have taken money from the public, but the casino in effect will hardly lose anything [only the cut they have to pay the slot provider 1%? or something like that] all the other losses roll back into their bank account along with the wins?

A bit like if somebody had their own physical casino with slot machines taking the public's money, but they can play the machines and just take their lost coins back out?

It's a bit hot and muggy today, so I could be confused but this scenario sounds a bit dodgy.

edit: if this is the same group that roshtein was affliated to, does it raise questions as to whether he was indeed spinning $50 of his own money at a time.
It would be equally a fascinating subject if one streamer on his response video admits openly his partner has to control his finances and he’s a gambling issue with bonus buys...

but this guy openly streams for a accredited casino here, so a openly self admitted problem gambler whom can’t handle bonus buys and uses his partner to manage his finances yet is used to promote a casino and publicly is ok?..

Out of pure respect I’ll not for the minute mention the casino etc...
But it’s very real and that alone to me shows how these streaming folks seem to sail above the law...

If I said on live chat my missus has to control my finances, I can’t handle bonus buys I’d be banned and not allowed to continue affiliation with said casino...never mind have a normal player account...

It shows the utter hypocrisy and disregard and wild Wild West behaviour that’s causing the issues in the first place... sorry this is why I’ve zero sympathy.
 

mack341

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I must admit I'm not up to date with the streamer scene, I lost interest when they started all that bonus hunt bs, I enjoy the commentary during the base game spins, but just showing 10 bonuses stored up on high stakes is unrealistic and piss boring to me.
 

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