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Come on lets be real, any casino doing business in the US are operating illegally and therefore criminals as you put it. If the casinos weren't criminals why do they mask the credit card charges from Shanghai or whatever as kids books or jewelery or whatever phony business they have set up to take the casinos credit card payments. At least with bitcoins I don't have to worry about the international charges or potentially having the credit card numbers misused later down the road by rogue processors. What software specifically is stolen? I'm sure bitcasino.io is licensed to run the Betsoft and PlaynGo games. As far as the Aristocrat slots I'm not sure I do know I emailed Aristocrat a while back to inquire and they never responded back to me. From what I can tell the payouts aren't being cheated , I've had much better bet multiplier wins on the Aristocrats at bitcasino than I have on the same land based versions. However, It does seem at times its really tough to get a bonus on them but they generally seem to pay decently when they do come unlike the casino where I often get really shitty low paying bonuses on the same games at the Indian Casinos.

On line gaming in the US is a grey area. It is not technically illegal.
They still offer some Netent games which we know for fact are not licensed to them.

So, when do you decide that their criminal activity it more than reasonable for you because they pay you fast?

lets play a hypothetical but potentially real game

They have stolen software but it's okay, they pay me fast.
The money they earn is used to push drugs to inner city kids, buts that okay, they pay me fast
The money the earn goes to groups in Africa that abduct school children and rape them. but that's okay, they pay me fast
The money they earn goes to terrorists that terrorize entire towns and murder and rape the civilians because the don't follow their radicalized religious views. But that's okay, they pay me fast


A criminal is a criminal and as long as you continue to feed them you are helping them and guilty by association.

You may think my statements above are ridiculous and blown out of proportion but it has been show that illegal activities help to fund these types of organizations.
 
On line gaming in the US is a grey area. It is not technically illegal.
They still offer some Netent games which we know for fact are not licensed to them.

So, when do you decide that their criminal activity it more than reasonable for you because they pay you fast?

lets play a hypothetical but potentially real game

They have stolen software but it's okay, they pay me fast.
The money they earn is used to push drugs to inner city kids, buts that okay, they pay me fast
The money the earn goes to groups in Africa that abduct school children and rape them. but that's okay, they pay me fast
The money they earn goes to terrorists that terrorize entire towns and murder and rape the civilians because the don't follow their radicalized religious views. But that's okay, they pay me fast


A criminal is a criminal and as long as you continue to feed them you are helping them and guilty by association.

You may think my statements above are ridiculous and blown out of proportion but it has been show that illegal activities help to fund these types of organizations.

With all due respect, in the absence of evidence otherwise, I'm not prepared to buy the argument that this casino is anything other than what, from all appearances, it is ... a casino. I have never seen any evidence or proof that any online casino serves as a conduit for violent crime - that is an argument which was made, in part, as the basis for passing the UIGEA, and as here, there was no evidence presented of that claim.

As to the other issues regarding the software and CM's statements, I have nothing to add, but I wanted to address this bit, thanks.
 
With all due respect, in the absence of evidence otherwise, I'm not prepared to buy the argument that this casino is anything other than what, from all appearances, it is ... a casino. I have never seen any evidence or proof that any online casino serves as a conduit for violent crime - that is an argument which was made, in part, as the basis for passing the UIGEA, and as here, there was no evidence presented of that claim.

As to the other issues regarding the software and CM's statements, I have nothing to add, but I wanted to address this bit, thanks.

I was over exaggerating to make a point. Crime is not victimless.
At what point do we stop being selfish because we are getting an advantage from the crime and realize that it's wrong?
 
I was over exaggerating to make a point. Crime is not victimless.
At what point do we stop being selfish because we are getting an advantage from the crime and realize that it's wrong?

Rhetorical question: If you think gambling is wrong, then why do you engage in this crime?

I do NOT think it's wrong, and the US DOJ has stated on at least two occasions of which I know that it is not a federal crime for Americans to gamble online - on one occasion, in testimony given in US Congress hearings (in front of former House member Barney Frank), and on the second, the more recent white letter they issued (which had the effect of giving a green light to Delaware, NV and NJ to rubber-stamp legal online gaming services intra-state).
 
And this is why I love bitcoin gambling...notice the time of cashout from the email at 10:20am and within 60 seconds its already in my wallet. :cool: I normally don't take the 50% vip bonus at bitcasino but today I did and the wagering is 35x the bonus amount so I probably won't be using that bonus much although the bonus amount is cashable so thats a plus. The only problem is the price of bitcoin keeps dropping! So I always cash out from my coinbase and just redeposit as needed to avoid the fluctuations as much as possible.

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Rhetorical question: If you think gambling is wrong, then why do you engage in this crime?

I do NOT think it's wrong, and the US DOJ has stated on at least two occasions of which I know that it is not a federal crime for Americans to gamble online - on one occasion, in testimony given in US Congress hearings (in front of former House member Barney Frank), and on the second, the more recent white letter they issued (which had the effect of giving a green light to Delaware, NV and NJ to rubber-stamp legal online gaming services intra-state).

I do not think that on line gaming is a crime for US players. As you have stated it's a states rights issue not for the federal gov. to decide.
But I get the point your making.

IMO; it is irresponsible for members that have been here long enough to know better, to be promoting a casino like this. How these guys are not in the rogue pit yet is beyond me.
 
And this is why I love bitcoin gambling...notice the time of cashout from the email at 10:20am and within 60 seconds its already in my wallet. :cool: I normally don't take the 50% vip bonus at bitcasino but today I did and the wagering is 35x the bonus amount so I probably won't be using that bonus much although the bonus amount is cashable so thats a plus. The only problem is the price of bitcoin keeps dropping! So I always cash out from my coinbase and just redeposit as needed to avoid the fluctuations as much as possible.

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I like the bitcoin as well for the fast transactions. Have you tried Bitstars? All of my transactions with them have been fast as well. Within a minute or 2 for me to confirm the transaction e-mail they send. I use Circle for my wallet and they receive it instantly. It takes about 20- 40 minutes for it to post past the pending in circle. they require 4 confirmations in the bit chain.
 
I do not think that on line gaming is a crime for US players. As you have stated it's a states rights issue not for the federal gov. to decide.
But I get the point your making.

IMO; it is irresponsible for members that have been here long enough to know better, to be promoting a casino like this. How these guys are not in the rogue pit yet is beyond me.

In all fairness, you heavily promote Rival brand casinos which have been in and out of the rogue pit for years and currently on the Reservation list. I'm just stating my opinions and thus far I've had more than a positive experience at Bitcasino. They have awesome support, fast payouts, and from what I can tell fair gaming. If I thought anything was sketchy going on I wouldn't play there. We each get to decide what suits our gambling needs and go from there. But talking about that playing at a casino is supporting crime or terrorism is laughable. What do you think Vegas was for many years when the mob controlled it, so all those people that gambled there should be shamed because they supported crime?
 
In all fairness, you heavily promote Rival brand casinos which have been in and out of the rogue pit for years and currently on the Reservation list. I'm just stating my opinions and thus far I've had more than a positive experience at Bitcasino. They have awesome support, fast payouts, and from what I can tell fair gaming. If I thought anything was sketchy going on I wouldn't play there. We each get to decide what suits our gambling needs and go from there. But talking about that playing at a casino is supporting crime or terrorism is laughable. What do you think Vegas was for many years when the mob controlled it, so all those people that gambled there should be shamed because they supported crime?

well any knowledgeable person these days know that the mob sent thousands if not millions from Vegas to Chicago yet we still love Bugsy a gambler is going to gamble I see online gaming in the US eventually being legalized than run by wallstreet corporations like what happened in Nevada
 
Bit coins are really dropping today 1 MBTC is now 29 cents was 33 cents a few days ago

I see the price of BTC is continuing it's decline. Mid Nov. it was over $400, now it's down to $273. That's a big drop but should not really impact you if you just use your wallet as a pass through between your bank and casino and don't keep any funds stored there.
 
High tech thieves. Does bitcoin offer any insurance at all? Glad those people will get there money back

No insurance, but as you stated good to see the company is backing them up so assurance in the place of insurance. I'm not sure they would be so generous had the loss been greater.

The industry needs to deal with this and swiftly. You never hear about a bank being hacked and losing money or the stock market.
 
No insurance, but as you stated good to see the company is backing them up so assurance in the place of insurance. I'm not sure they would be so generous had the loss been greater.

The industry needs to deal with this and swiftly. You never hear about a bank being hacked and losing money or the stock market.

Your kidding right?

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So I have found yet another nice setup for being to buy and sell Bit Coins.

Granted I've only used them for selling Bit Coins for Money Pak codes so far. Yet when I cash my Bit Coins out to Local Bit Coins, and get a money pak number I kid you not in 30 minutes. That makes a cash in hand total of about 1 hour and 30 minutes.

So far my experience has been it takes about 1 hour to them to verify the coin you've sent to your wallet there. Then takes about normally about 10 minutes for a 3rd party seller to get me a Money Pak or Vanilla Reload number. Then I load the pak to my favorite prepaid card. Then from there it's a 15 minute drive to the ATM and I have cash in hand.

Now obviously if you don't want to pay the ATM fee, you can always spend the money right off the prepaid card for anything you would like.

Just another way I have found Bit Coins to be fast and convenient.
 
Bitcoin has gotten rather slow as of late. Transfers in the past used to get 10 confirmations easily within the first 5 minutes. Now my last transfer took nearly 30 hours before being confirmed and not pending. Could be just bad luck IDK.
 
Bitcoin has gotten rather slow as of late. Transfers in the past used to get 10 confirmations easily within the first 5 minutes. Now my last transfer took nearly 30 hours before being confirmed and not pending. Could be just bad luck IDK.

I had a problem last week. I figured it was a one time thing and did not really focus on it. Took 5 hours for a transaction to clear the block chain with 4 confirmations.
 
Bitcoin has gotten rather slow as of late. Transfers in the past used to get 10 confirmations easily within the first 5 minutes. Now my last transfer took nearly 30 hours before being confirmed and not pending. Could be just bad luck IDK.

Wow, who are you using for the wallet? I seem to have no issues with circle

So I have found yet another nice setup for being to buy and sell Bit Coins.

Granted I've only used them for selling Bit Coins for Money Pak codes so far. Yet when I cash my Bit Coins out to Local Bit Coins, and get a money pak number I kid you not in 30 minutes. That makes a cash in hand total of about 1 hour and 30 minutes.

So far my experience has been it takes about 1 hour to them to verify the coin you've sent to your wallet there. Then takes about normally about 10 minutes for a 3rd party seller to get me a Money Pak or Vanilla Reload number. Then I load the pak to my favorite prepaid card. Then from there it's a 15 minute drive to the ATM and I have cash in hand.

Now obviously if you don't want to pay the ATM fee, you can always spend the money right off the prepaid card for anything you would like.

Just another way I have found Bit Coins to be fast and convenient.

Thanks for the info, I thought local bit coins was just a directory, is there a particular company that transfers them to money pak?
 
I see the price of BTC is continuing it's decline. Mid Nov. it was over $400, now it's down to $273. That's a big drop but should not really impact you if you just use your wallet as a pass through between your bank and casino and don't keep any funds stored there.

now down to $245 I guess like you said not to keep funds in the wallet
 
When you go to Local Bit Coins, you just choose I want to sell bit coins. Then from there you can choose Money Pak or Vanilla Reload. I personally like the money pak option because there are more cards that support a money pak.

Yet before I get too far, you do have to register for an account here. Transfer money into there virtual cloud wallet. So make sure this is done before this before you try looking for a buyer of your coins.

Then from there they'll list available 3rd party sellers that can sell you a reload pak of your choice. What price they are offering.
Once you've decided on a seller based on there feedback. Then transfer the funds to an escrow account. Generally most of these sellers will require that you stay online during the transaction. So then once you've gotten your money pak number. Apply it to your account, then once the funds are confirmed as good. Then you release the escrow.

It's pretty easy. There are also other options such as getting money grams, western unions, cash deposits into your bank account, cash in the mail, and so on and so forth. It's just a matter of choosing what option looks good to you at the time.
 
I had a problem last week. I figured it was a one time thing and did not really focus on it. Took 5 hours for a transaction to clear the block chain with 4 confirmations.

tonight seems like taking extra long been 40 minutes and not 1 block yet
 

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