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Big Wins always occur when your bankroll near to zero!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by shahran84, Sep 21, 2012.

    Sep 21, 2012
  1. shahran84

    shahran84 Non-Gambler

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    Hey guys,

    I'm not sure whether the slots are being programmed or RANDOM as it claimed to be, but out of my 10 big winning sessions, 8 of them had a big wins when my bankroll is near to zero.. for example: $0.30 or $1++ or $3++ depending on the bet size.

    Any others experience that? This is sooooo fishy... they called it random but it is so fishhhyyy... :p
     
  2. Sep 21, 2012
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    If it occurred when you were up, would it not appear AS fishy?
     
  4. Sep 21, 2012
  5. JackTenOff

    JackTenOff Webmaster webmeister

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    If anything it proves it is random, why would they give you a big win when near bust? surely it would be better just to bust you and not pay out anything :eek2:
     
  6. Sep 21, 2012
  7. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    well, 8 out of 10 times doesn't really make it not-random....the randomness means it COULD be 1 or 9. I'm sure there's FAR more people who simply bust out and don't see the big hits, near the end or at all
     
  8. Sep 21, 2012
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm no conspiracy theorist but funnily enough I was having this exact same conversation with someone else the other day as I had been thinking the same thing for some time. There must be some sort of psychological reasoning behind it, as dionysus hints at, but I know exactly what the OP is getting at lol. It only seems to happen if you "flat-bet" at a given amount for a while to me (ie: 50 spins at 45c) but it seems one of the last 2 spins always throws something back at you from 5x upwards. If you up your bet, even for the last spin or two to finish the bankroll it doesn't seem to hit.

    Like I say, I am inclined to think it is psychological but it is odd.
     
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  11. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    I imagine it's psychological because we're looking AT the few remaining spins; we don't scrutinize near as much if at other figures (let's say .45, 28.70, and 473.72). Were we to grab these (or any) random figures the way we look at the bottom ones as we near bust out, I'm sure we'd see as many 'big' hits at those three figures as the lowest one. We 'think' we hit the biggie as we near out (let's say 2 bucks) because we don't bother gauging the 24 bucks, 78 bucks, 142 buck marks)
     
  12. Sep 21, 2012
  13. Balthazar

    Balthazar The Governor

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    Yes, and after the big win, all the slots seem to drop at a 5% RTP for the next 1000 spins or so. ;) Probably psychological, but it does look like that.
     
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  15. legenden1

    legenden1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

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    I agree. Hit this yesterday almost going bust. A few spins before I had to lower my betsize to afford another spin
     

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  17. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Yes; but I've also hit on that game when I was up and over a few hundred, when I was at a couple hundred, and when I was around busting


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  19. Balthazar

    Balthazar The Governor

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    I don't believe that they are doing it, but the reason why they would do it is quite simple. They have to give out big wins (to meet RTP's and to keep their players) and the average player is far less likely to cashout on a $300 "big win" when he had $0.50 left than on the same $300 win when he had $200 left.
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2012
  21. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    But if this theory is true, then it is basically saying that slots are rigged, is it not?
     
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  22. Sep 21, 2012
  23. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    yes, which they aren't (well, some are lol)...but for the accredited, tried and true, no
     
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  25. nisosbar

    nisosbar Ueber Meister PABnonaccred

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    But think of all the bonus rounds and big hits you've had on the very first spin, or within the first 5 spins of play. That ALSO happens, and if the casino were rigging gameplay, it would be counter-intuitive to let players hit right when they sit down, since they are likely to place their biggest bets at the beginning of a session.
     
  26. Sep 21, 2012
  27. IanO

    IanO Regular Human

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    I'm with Simmo + co on this and think there is a bit of psychology at play.

    It's like in poker... when you hear players say something like 'Damn... Pocket kings.. I ALWAYS bust on pocket kings!'. Anyone who spends any time near a poker table will eventually hear something similar. It's not that they're the most unlucky player in the world and someone else always gets the aces... it's just that out of the 1,000 hands they played that night, that one is a lot more likely to stick in their head.

    By the same token... if you have £1,000 in your balance and win £50... you carry on spinning as it's not that big a deal.... but if you get down to your last penny... have not had a win in a while... and THEN hit the £50. Well that's the £50 you remember.

    If you really want to test this theory just put away the tinfoil hat and ask or get your play logs from the casino . Pour through it with a calculator and lets have the stats. Bear i mind you may have more wins at low bankroll anyway... it is random after all.. but any major statistical anomaly should stick out.
     
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  29. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    ive gotten two royale flushes like this one on absolute last spin another on last dollar left so ??
     
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  31. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    exactly....so? I'm sure someone over two occassions has gotten 2 royals on their 823rd and 828th hand. People look for patterns were none exist. It's common
     
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  33. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    :eek::lolup::lolup::lolup: where in hell u gonna find them :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  35. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    lol, precisely, because noone bothers to monitor the patterns of big hits in the middle of a thousand spins/hands; just when their up or out
     
  36. Sep 22, 2012
  37. shahran84

    shahran84 Non-Gambler

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    I've been playing slots for more than 8 years and I've observed the pattern of slots paying out.
    I'm sure you old timer guys have experience this before... Slots are like snake and ladder.

    For example:
    Your bankroll left $50.90
    Then you spin and spin and left with $32.10
    So you spin one more time and the amount goes back to $50.90
    How possible can it be to ACCURATELY hit back to the same amount you get before, and I'm talking about different bet size but still end up the same repeating amount a few times!

    It's definitely fishhhyyyy~. True right guys? :)
     
  38. Sep 22, 2012
  39. xxshepxx

    xxshepxx Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

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    Very close to bust, look at the balance and remove the win from that...:cool:
     
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