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Big changes for Cryptologic!

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by maxd, Apr 9, 2012.

    Apr 9, 2012
  1. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    All change at CryptoLogic, You must register/login in order to see the link.

    "$34.5 million"?!? Back in the day the carpeting in their offices was worth more than that! Looks like the end of the road for a company that once led the industry though the salad days were some time ago.
     
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  2. Apr 9, 2012
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    dang, i love crypto games; intercasino is awesome for quick WDs
     
  4. Apr 10, 2012
  5. Realitybitez

    Realitybitez Experienced Member

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    New Zealand
    Same! Intercasino is also one of my favourite casinos

    Fast cashouts:thumbsup: Is Intercasino closing down:confused:
     
  6. Apr 10, 2012
  7. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Montreal-based Amaya is an interesting company - seemed to come out of nowhere a few years back and has been buying up other outfits like Chartwell Tech and nailing contracts all over the world ever since. It's been involved in collaborative deals with Shufflemaster, Aristocrat and Loto Quebec and has a market cap over 100 mill dollars, although it made a loss last year, but that may be due to its rapid expansion.

    It's essentially a turnkey provider and content group across several gambling sectors, so it's going to be interesting to see what it does with Crypto.

    See also CM News, where its deals have been appearing regularly.
     
  8. Apr 10, 2012
  9. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    AFAIK nothing has been announced regarding Intercasino so my guess is it's business as usual, at least until we hear otherwise.
     
  10. Apr 10, 2012
  11. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    Interesting that last week I received a survey invitation from Intercasino - what do you like about us, what don't you like, what other casinos do you play and why, etc. First time I've ever gotten anything like that, I wonder if it has anything to do with this sale?
     
  12. Apr 10, 2012
  13. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    lol, same, and said id get 20 bucks for doing it, which i didnt lol
     
  14. Apr 10, 2012
  15. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    I don't quite know what happened to Crypto either, they just couldn't seem to compete with Playtech and MG. Perhaps it was the closing of the US market that was the writing on the wall for this firm. I can only think of Intercasino that proudly parades their games anymore.
     
  16. Apr 10, 2012
  17. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    Yup, that was a big part of it. Crypto had always been strongly US-facing and the US situation hit them pretty damn hard. They put on a pretty game face for a while but in retrospect I think the truth of it is closer to them being gut-shot by it and ... well, it didn't turn out so good.

    That said I think it's also true that there was a bit of a long-term vision problem at Crypto. For instance when they bought WinnerOnline -- easily the largest and most influential online casino portal in it's day -- all they ever cared about was that the place showed a profit on the monthly balance sheet. We (I was one of the original WOL staff) could have been making gourmet pop-tarts for all they cared. There was no master plan for WOL, no attempt to leverage it's (once) strong place in the portal scene, no attempt to include it in the overall corporate vision. While that may have been convenient for WOL at the time -- no outside interference in the day-to-day ops of the place, for instance -- it did leave a potentially huge resource to slowly curl up and die when the revenue stream started to dry up. Neither of them were much use to the other when things started to sour.

    On the other hand I'm no marketing guy and I'm certainly no visionary when it comes to executive issues. Maybe there was nothing to be done under the circumstances. Shrug, dunno, ancient history now.
     
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  18. Apr 10, 2012
  19. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    I talked to chat late last night about that - they said there was a delay because of the holidays and to expect an email with a redemption code either today or tomorrow.
     
  20. Apr 10, 2012
  21. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    Too worried about the bottom line and not thinking about what was coming in the future. I also think they learnty a huge lesson when Playtech launched their version of the Marvel slots, which were far better than Cyrpto's.
     
  22. Apr 10, 2012
  23. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    Mine was in my email just now, but for some reason ended up in the spam folder :what: there other emails get through fine.
     
  24. Apr 12, 2012
  25. binary128

    binary128 Dormant account

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    Vancouver, BC
    Crypto's recent presence in the market, to me anyway, has been consistent with that of someone in a bed in the back ward of a long term care facility. Still, until I saw that number, I had no idea that they were that badly off.

    A bit sad, really. "Back in the day" they were almost the definition of "online Casinos".

    Chris
     
  26. Apr 13, 2012
  27. TonyH

    TonyH Dormant account

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    Head Of Customer Experience
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi All!

    Just to say that we are very excited by the Amaya deal and see it as a huge opportunity for growth in the coming months. Our customer survey recently was related to brand development work we’re carrying out to underpin the launch of various media campaigns planned for later this year. It’s all very much business as usual and super-busy at Inter right now as we look forward to product expansion and reinvigorating brand awareness with a strong identity in the market place in the coming months. We have been around for 16 years and look forward to a much lengthier innings!
     
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  28. Apr 13, 2012
  29. hakapuku

    hakapuku Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr

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    Some 3-4 years ago Cryptologic was the best group of online casinos. Paid fast, offered generous bonuses, absolutely the best. Then, I suppose, some greedy management decided to change everything there. Bonuses become unplayable, payments not so fast, every withdrawal was analyzed with microscope before processed...And as the result the company went down and down... It is almost never profitable to be greedy!
     
  30. Apr 13, 2012
  31. gerilege

    gerilege Meister Member PABnorogue PABrogue

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    I think the biggest problem is the quality of slots, there are many games that look like something back in 2004. The lobby renovation is a good step, but imho the future would be to narrow the game selection a bit, but increase the gaming experience for the remaining games. Also the house edge is not really competitive with some other providers.
     
  32. Apr 13, 2012
  33. TonyH

    TonyH Dormant account

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    All

    As I’ve mentioned in the past, I welcome with open arms any and all constructive feedback people are willing to provide that will ultimately make InterCasino a better place to play.
    We’re currently offering 4 My Bonus 4 Life promos each month with a variety of different offers available at any one time.
    I’m currently reviewing our deposit and withdrawal processes hakapuku and would greatly appreciate any additional feedback you would be willing to provide regarding previous deposit and withdrawal experiences with us. Please feel free to contact me directly at This email is not visible to you. and I will address your concerns personally.
    Regarding the comment about ‘house edge’, I’d be keen to get a better understanding of what game or type of game specifically gerilege you refer to and encourage you to contact me also at This email is not visible to you. .
    Our games are amongst the most competitive in the industry but we are always looking at ways to improve the overall experience for our players.

    Many thanks

    Tony
     

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