ive heard rumors that pokerstars is full of cheaters that all sign up for the same sit and go's and bully other players until they win. they get a group of players and basically run the tournament so that only they win...thats why i play fulltilt...
In any case BOTS are becoming dominant if they arent already.
Re: Very suspicious similarities of 4 half-stackers on AP/UB
I've played against all these players/bots in the UB/AP $0.05/$0.10 full ring games. Also noticed the they are all from Coquitlam. Just figured they are a bot ring, that doesn't really do very well. Main problem is that they are boring to play against.
ok in retrospect, I rescind everything Ive said. I don't want AP to bust these guys, and the guys who created this bot are definitely on our side.
1. Keep more tables running cuz of the bots
2. Are so profitable to play against its silly. They will fold ~85% of their opens to 3bets REGARDLESS OF BET SIZE! Same goes for their blinds. Basically I click the raise button everytime they have money in front of them and they rarely RARELY continue.
Seriously, please don't complain about these guys. If I could play at a table full of them I'd be a 100ptbb/100 winner, I'm dead serious.
What about Merge network site where I reported, this was long time ago, not two players but entire ring of players colluding on stakes between NL10 to NL50. Response:"We didnt find anything unusual in behavior of mentioned players." They give me that answer after I spent few hours googling and found their own exclusive forum which they thought was private, only some 30 members, where they were making plans when will they play, at which stakes, marking potential targets, exchanging hand histories and stuff like that. Will it suffice to say that some of them used same nicknames on forum and poker site.
Back in days when William Hill was on Cryptologic they used house bots to fill and start tables. They still do but, all of their bots on Crypto had screennames starting with "bot" so it was not hard to spot them. Those bots didnt fold small 3bets often in fact i dont think they folded any small bet, allins they called with good hands but they did call 3bets with wide range of hands, exploitable yes, but what was the problem then? Problem was that more than you would like to see those bots called with some really marginal hands and were catching backdoors like hell. Suited not connected, connected not suited. It seemed like system had memorized how much you won from bots and fixed the game in a way that bots didnt win or lose, you played with bots on break even basis over the long term, I repeat it seemed never did I put that in numbers. On FLHE tables those bots really excelled and were even harder to play against. They were changing tactics to loose if table got tight, tighten up if table got too loose. They would catching your CBETS as normal player would do and this was in 2006 or `07. I can only imagine how much did bots improve since then. If you really want to know I`ll look at my Moneybookers history to see when was the last withdrawal from them because I didnt play there since they were on Crypto.2. Are so profitable to play against its silly. They will fold ~85% of their opens to 3bets REGARDLESS OF BET SIZE! Same goes for their blinds. Basically I click the raise button everytime they have money in front of them and they rarely RARELY continue.
Online poker is such a freaking waste of money, lol. I still like Pokerstars and Full Tilt, because as Diane says, there are good ways to minimize collusion and bots. But make a living at it? Uh-huh, yeah, I am so sure.