Betzest voids 3500 euro balance legit?

hhhelllo

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For more information about why i got cheated so much by so many casinos this year.. it's because the anonymous casino fraud and cheats made me win tens of thousands over longer periond of time in months. At some point i peaked over 150k cad in profits before i crash down. It was from anonymous btc accounts so i guess not available to casinos knowledge how i got that money? But from low roller streamer i started rolling mega bets and deposits all over.. i was getting swings of 10k+ in a day easily .. rip rip rip 10k -20k then boom on a depo hit multiple thousands and cash out. Casinos would just outright say NO. They didn't care i did 50x200$ deposits (10,000$) rip to get to that 4,000$ win... 4k win from 200$ deposits IMPOSSIBLE, you are cheat! Scary...

So yeah suddeny casinos all refused to pay me, casinos from all kind from worst to top ranked here. I was "investigated" by multiple casinos holding my funds. Casinos were sending their responsible gambling agents after me with flase claim of wanting to help me but were in fact there to try and figure out where the money is from... will they make money from me long term on these stakes and what not. The first to move was genesis group, sloty casino ahead... and after i told their responsible gambling agent my money is out of my reach, everything is managed tightly, i do biig or small bets just depends on my wallet size.. big bets are always only made with profits. The casino realized... they would never make up for my previous win with me.. that i can't afford these stakes long term.. so the whole group auto-excluded me without my approval after i told them how nicely manager my finances are... All i know now is all casinos sayi requested exclusion... which i never. But thats the least of the things that happened to me recently.. most i have to keep quiet before legal or criminal accusations being done against each specific casino and group.

I was told it is impossible i won like that. I was told so many nonsense things.. that if the casinos are right.. it just plain means their games are manipulated and not random at all.. as you guys might know.. if games are random.. then anything can happen.. the simple fact a casino management of a big license group tell me its IMPOSSIBLE... in the absolute... any lawyers here? You prob understand and get the point here. So yeah.. now i have to quit.. can't stream anymore... preparing actions as i am not after money, i always used it to gamble back.. everyone knows around me.. i streamed for years.. gambling funds is for gamble.. what come from slots must return to the slots i say. But i just cannot let them continue lying.. frauding and cheating players outright.. in some casinos with what i proved and what i know.. just muting would me legally that i am accomplice (what is english word for supporting/helping a criminal do or hide a crime?) and i could. if figured out be sued or jailed myself.. not to mention.. i want to help. make the industry safer but with everything i have hand now.. all i could tell people is bet smell. .depo small.. or dont play at all. The whole industry from top to bottom is huuuuuuuu and eventually you will hear and figure about it one by one as my casinos.. casinos and proof.. lawsuits or criminal accusations are released publicly. You will. puke.. cry ... want to yelll.. what not when you realize what you guys have been dealing with.. without noticing. Ya.. i don't want money.. never wanted.. i gave them so many chances over years.. this year i went so far beyond common sense simply because i wasnt ready to quit playing... I Just.. have to do it.. no choice. I am aware of casinos and groups that fraud, manipulate and ruin players as a protocole permantly.. people are mostly not aware they got cheated.. lied or else. Once they figure.. when people .. around the globe (if they hear of it) figure what these casinos have done to all of them.. i wont have to do anything.. the outrage will be global.. i am not pushing anything here.. you will see... the stories.. what happened.. the casinos the system. .the games.. lots of very very disgusting things that i have proved repeateadly and have kept safe the proof it meaning you will be able to confirm by yourself my words. On that gl .. and remember.. casinos lie on purpose.. most people give up their wins.. for the few that are here fighting.. so they continue. If you show them you are serious they will pay.. they just try.. in case.. you would give up.
Go take a walk outside buddy
 

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At this point we have little choice but to close the OP's PAB without a satisfactory resolution from the casino.
We agree that the complaint is legitimate but were unable to find common ground in our discussions with the casino.
An update to the casino's Review here at Casinomeister is scheduled and unfortunately will likely result in the casino being down-graded.
So, PAB closed: the OP is free to discuss this as they see fit.
 
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Mouche12

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I think that your findings should be brought to the attention of the respective regulators. It's very unfortunate that the player did not get his winnings paid, but it's a good thing that the casino is removed from the accredited list. Frankly, I think you should put a warning out, outlining the casino's outrageous and predatory behaviour. This is a bloody shame. :mad:
 

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I think that your findings should be brought to the attention of the respective regulators.

I hear what you are saying but that is something that the player will have to do if they think that is the way forward. If we took it to the regulator the first thing they would say is "have the player get in touch with us" and we'd be closed out of any further discussions on the matter.
 

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I think that your findings should be brought to the attention of the respective regulators. It's very unfortunate that the player did not get his winnings paid, but it's a good thing that the casino is removed from the accredited list. Frankly, I think you should put a warning out, outlining the casino's outrageous and predatory behaviour. This is a bloody shame. :mad:
Betzest was never Accredited. Just sayin'. It's in the Grey Zone - always has been.
 

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At this point we have little choice but to close the OP's PAB without a satisfactory resolution from the casino.
We agree that the complaint is legitimate but were unable to find common ground in our discussions with the casino.
An update to the casino's Review here at Casinomeister is scheduled and unfortunately will likely result in the casino being down-graded.
So, PAB closed: the OP is free to discuss this as they see fit.

Any news on their review getting changed as if you read it now it sounds like a good casino.

But after what they did to the OP i would have imagined if they are not rogued which they deserve there should at least be a warning on their review about the shady confiscation of a players money.

Find the whole way the casino has acted as frankly disgusting.
 
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At this point we have little choice but to close the OP's PAB without a satisfactory resolution from the casino.
We agree that the complaint is legitimate but were unable to find common ground in our discussions with the casino.
An update to the casino's Review here at Casinomeister is scheduled and unfortunately will likely result in the casino being down-graded.
So, PAB closed: the OP is free to discuss this as they see fit.

So it ends there? Betzest are clearly using predatory practices to deny winnings. Is there any action that is going to be taken?

Nate
 

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... Is there any action that is going to be taken?

Nate

Did you not read the post? "... will likely result in the casino being down-graded".
 
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Nate

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Did you not read the post? "... will likely result in the casino being down-graded".

I did - ... 'will likely result in the casino being down-graded' - meaning what? They lose a few points for dishonesty?

So if all that happens is a 'downgrade' there isn't any action IMPO.
 

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"downgraded" as in moved from the Grey Zone to Not Recommended, for example.
We take that pretty seriously, as do the casino people who were VERY unhappy when they heard that might be the result of this.
 

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"downgraded" as in moved from the Grey Zone to Not Recommended, for example.
We take that pretty seriously, as do the casino people who were VERY unhappy when they heard that might be the result of this.

Thanks for clarifying that. I assumed it was just a 'points' downgrade.

Nate
 

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I also hope that the OP would consider taking the matter to court if he has the time and funds to do so...
 

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Bumping this post @max's see this casino still has quite a good review and it still never got changed.

Would have thought it would have been a priority to get a warning on their review as that is least you could expect for a casino that should have been rogued for blatant theft of a players winnings and not cooperating properly with PAB.
 

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In 20 years, this is the dumbest ruling I have ever read about and hypocrisy at it’s best. As a manager or casino rep, being totally clueless regarding slots mechanics, gamea, bonuses, providers or anything casino related is unnaceptable but not something we never encountered. Using that to steal your own customers and trying to blame them for it, seriously pathetic and disgusting. This is something easy to do when nobody can find owners or even know their real name. I know it’s not worth my time telling you something very honest and that comes for the bottom of my heart. And by the way I don’t need to know anyone personally or the OP to have the need to tell you this.
Betzest, f you.
 

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Guys, I'm just back from Christmas vacation so just now saw this. I'll look into it and post back here with an update re Betzest ASAP. Might take a day or so since the matter is pretty much in Bryan's hands and AFAIK he's on the road again.
- Max
 

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Guys, I'm just back from Christmas vacation so just now saw this. I'll look into it and post back here with an update re Betzest ASAP. Might take a day or so since the matter is pretty much in Bryan's hands and AFAIK he's on the road again.
- Max
Hope you had a nice Christmas vacation. :thumbsup:
 
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