Betway confiscated balance, after huge win

[bebo67]

If i can recall OP:s name, it's not most uncommon name in Finland google tells and also fact that many have two first names and are using second one is nothing unusual, wouldn't maybe advise person who is sharing same name than OP to claim police report if not sure that identity is used, same DOB, social security number in ID, address etc.... Person used on OP:s account can really be existing if been providing KYC docs even though is not person who played these game rounds which seem to be quite obvious, but just using name John Smith (or what ever) fraudulently, don't maybe mean that all John Smiths on the planet would have been victims of identity theft, if it's only name what is matching.

Ps. I'm not OP

Its uncommon enough that only one person comes up on facebook with that name.

 

[The Dude]

Lol. I gave her the thread url and she read the thread. Please facebook her. She is waiting to hear from you and very anxious.

Kind of hard to "Facebook" someone when one doesn't know who it is.

 

[bebo67]

Kind of hard to "Facebook" someone when one doesn't know who it is.

In boxed it.

 

[Slottery]

Still don't really see nothing for police to do in this case where all known information is "Somebody have opened account in foreign online casino and been using same name that i have, can you please investigate?" Can't really see that happen, now one person is just scared via facebook to think that somebody is using her identity which is never confirmed anywhere......

 

[slotter999]

Still don't really see nothing for police to do in this case where all known information is "Somebody have opened account in foreign online casino and been using same name that i have, can you please investigate?" Can't really see that happen, now one person is just scared via facebook to think that somebody is using her identity which is never confirmed anywhere......

I'm actually quite shocked at the actions taken by certain forum members. If there are suspicions of crimes being committed then surely the right thing to do is alert the authorities. Taking matters into your own hands can and most likely will have unintended negative consequences. Not cool.

 

[GC_Konstantin]

Still don't really see nothing for police to do in this case where all known information is "Somebody have opened account in foreign online casino and been using same name that i have, can you please investigate?" Can't really see that happen, now one person is just scared via Facebook to think that somebody is using her identity which is never confirmed anywhere......

Not quite so. I suppose the person in cause, the Facebook account holder which Bebo contacted, will also discover that she is missing money (from her Neteller account or card balance) ! Money which went deposited by the fraudster in Betway casino. So the victim will contact and cooperate with Betway and police to track down the fraudster (if there was such a case and somehow there was not some misunderstanding on the name and actually the person contacted by Bebo was not a victim of identity theft).

Still, it is pretty odd for someone doing identity theft and getting his / her hands on embezzled money which can be used to buy goods to dump them in a casino and to play with a bonus. Usually these things are done when the two persons collaborates between each other (so there is no identity theft) to deceive a casino.

Also, if the fraudster could deposit money with Neteller's victim in the casino, could have also sent those money to his own Neteller account (or to another collaborator's account -- without telling to that collaborator that those are black money obtained from stealing and identity fraud). Since the suspected person tried to withdraw back to Neteller, I guess he / she also had a way to withdraw that money from that Neteller account in the first place so it doesn't make sense why would have been trying to "milk a bonus" (which obviously is not a sure win) before pocketing the embezzled money !?

 

[Tirilej]

We're all just speculating. My plan when I contacted this person was just to ask her to contact Betway and ask if her information was used. She never replied.
When bebo reached her I thought maybe Bryan could compare the information from the PAB (did she even do one?)

But true, we shouldn't play detectives since innocent people can get hurt. I guess Betway will send the information they have if they have proof it's fraud...or she will get paid because Ecogra rule in her favour. Time will tell.

 

[nikantw]

I would love it if the real person was a victim but somehow managed to get paid all the 90,000!!

 

[pinnit2014]

Sure the equivalent of the proceeds of crime act would kick in, however

One can dream

 

[goatwack]

Best part is, we'll never know the outcome of this case as the person appears to be a chancer. Would love to be proved wrong, mind

 

[pinnit2014]

Heard once they receive the 90k they’re will be a prize in Harry’s VS thread

 

[JMcDonald]

OMG, I wish I have your luck... I hope that you can withdrawal your money and buy yourself a nice apartment

 

[Slottery]

Not quite so. I suppose the person in cause, the Facebook account holder which Bebo contacted, will also discover that she is missing money (from her Neteller account or card balance) ! Money which went deposited by the fraudster in Betway casino. So the victim will contact and cooperate with Betway and police to track down the fraudster (if there was such a case and somehow there was not some misunderstanding on the name and actually the person contacted by Bebo was not a victim of identity theft).

Still, it is pretty odd for someone doing identity theft and getting his / her hands on embezzled money which can be used to buy goods to dump them in a casino and to play with a bonus. Usually these things are done when the two persons collaborates between each other (so there is no identity theft) to deceive a casino.

Also, if the fraudster could deposit money with Neteller's victim in the casino, could have also sent those money to his own Neteller account (or to another collaborator's account -- without telling to that collaborator that those are black money obtained from stealing and identity fraud). Since the suspected person tried to withdraw back to Neteller, I guess he / she also had a way to withdraw that money from that Neteller account in the first place so it doesn't make sense why would have been trying to "milk a bonus" (which obviously is not a sure win) before pocketing the embezzled money !?

Of course, sorry if i misread/understood something, i only spotted that person with same name is only thing in common with this person contacted via FB, of course if there are money stolen from Neteller, persons ID and proof of address stolen it for sure should be reported and believe that if persons Neteller is fraudulently used, she would know that very shortly.

I was just understanding that only thing what matched was name and person was wondering why some unknown people contact her via FB (which for sure make one nervous that what the heck is going on when many people contact you regarding online casino things and identity theft, most probably would think that this is the real scammer, unknown person try to get touch with you through internet), i would be really surprised if few unknown people would contact me in this kind of scenario if there is no money stolen from Neteller, persons ID used etc.... I just didn't find anywhere from posts that there was something else happened than matching names and as in quoted post stated, if have got somebody Neteller details to use it, why in earth to use it to casino.

If i missed that person contacted through FB is missing money from her Neteller and her passport or id form of ID have been used, i stand corrected but what i saw in these posts, only name was matching and person got really confused when people contact her, for sure she is checking her bank accounts and NT accounts after these messages and hopefully they are ok and nothing happened to her and if did, would bet she will contact police right away, just not fully understand what more this forum should do in this occasion. It's best one identity theft is busted moment earlier what would have happened otherwise and can claim police report moment earlier, it's worse, young girl is scared for nothing.

 

[nikantw]

Just to add that it is not just the name, fb person is also a student and has the same age. What are the chances of that?
If I had to guess I would say the fraudster tried to withdraw to his own Neteller acc.
I would like to know how this story ends.

 

[brianmon]

Of course, sorry if i misread/understood something, i only spotted that person with same name is only thing in common with this person contacted via FB, of course if there are money stolen from Neteller, persons ID and proof of address stolen it for sure should be reported and believe that if persons Neteller is fraudulently used, she would know that very shortly.

I was just understanding that only thing what matched was name and person was wondering why some unknown people contact her via FB (which for sure make one nervous that what the heck is going on when many people contact you regarding online casino things and identity theft, most probably would think that this is the real scammer, unknown person try to get touch with you through internet), i would be really surprised if few unknown people would contact me in this kind of scenario if there is no money stolen from Neteller, persons ID used etc.... I just didn't find anywhere from posts that there was something else happened than matching names and as in quoted post stated, if have got somebody Neteller details to use it, why in earth to use it to casino.

If i missed that person contacted through FB is missing money from her Neteller and her passport or id form of ID have been used, i stand corrected but what i saw in these posts, only name was matching and person got really confused when people contact her, for sure she is checking her bank accounts and NT accounts after these messages and hopefully they are ok and nothing happened to her and if did, would bet she will contact police right away, just not fully understand what more this forum should do in this occasion. It's best one identity theft is busted moment earlier what would have happened otherwise and can claim police report moment earlier, it's worse, young girl is scared for nothing.

If you'd have been able to read the whole thread BEFORE CM removed most of the 'identifying' information. You'd see things more clear

 

[brianmon]

Just to add that it is not just the name, fb person is also a student and has the same age. What are the chances of that?
If I had to guess I would say the fraudster tried to withdraw to his own Neteller acc.
I would like to know how this story ends.

Plus a twitter account, which was set up on the day of the first post, which was only used to complain about Betway, and has had no posts added since

 

[Slottery]

If you'd have been able to read the whole thread BEFORE CM removed most of the 'identifying' information. You'd see things more clear

Still most probably if somebody have used your payment methods and stole your money, you have realized it before that situation had been brought to public forums. Still wouldn't start to contact unknown person through FB with information available in many forums, not only here. OP stated to sent there different proof of addresses and all KYC details and if top of stealing these have been using other persons Neteller account for playing without her permission sounds just more than weird.... If that scenario have happened what i still quite strongly doubt, now at least one person found from internet is informed about it, was her victim, co-fraudster providing her details to other person or none of these.....

 

[bebo67]

In all honesty, I think the OP and the real person are connected, only the real person wasn't aware of what was happening! The OP when I asked " her" age. said 23. The real person, I asked her age and she said 23. Nothing on the real persons facebook states her age. I don't think a CC was used, because OP said Netteller. The OP would have to have access to the real persons identification. In a nutshell, I think its a boyfriend or roommate. I dont have any regrets messaging her. She was genuinely baffled and very thankful more then once. I didnt do it to be thanked. I just like everyone else that messaged her, was looking out for her. She is just 23!