BetVoyager.com - any opinion?

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Hello, members :)
Flying on WWW i found one unknown (for me) casino - BetVoyager. So could anyone please tell me about this casino? Which software they use?
It looks "not bad", visual, of course. And they have "Randomness Control" option based on SHA-256 algorithm! :eek2:
Any opinions? Want to try to play with.

P.S. Using only MB and E-Gold payment methods is no-good :oops:

Edit: (from their site) Within a 24-hour period, any sum up to €1000 in the e-gold system take place automatically. Hmmmm...
 

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It would be right thing to have casino rep here
I tried this casino number of times - very nice...let's see...let's see...
 

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I can see from the screenshots that I have never played on that casino software platform before. I doubt it is new, so it is probably one of the
old rogue ones.

The JoB VP is not full paytable but the worst is that all RF only pay 1250 coins
at bet 5, it does not give the normal 4000 coins.

I would not deposit there unless I had a more information about it.
 

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Hmmm the rendering reminds me of some Russian artist, who made the graphis to some casinos that resides in the dark corner of the web.

Im not sure have to check my oldie links.
Ill get back, when ifind them.


Satchmo the man the myth the working class heo......
 

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Randomness Control

So, what about Randomnes Control? Makes sense?
 

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It was long time ago...but it's still interesting...don't you think so?
It looks like randomness control is your hobby.
Don't you remember then that the software behind BetVoyager is the very same that Hibet.ru was using before it went down ?
I'm asking that because you've posted on the Hibet thread just 2 months ago, trying to give a 2nd life to a thread which died 18 months ago.
To be honest, I'm quiet interested by the SHA-256 checksum but the fact that it's implemented by BetVoyager, a new borned egaming company located in the Netherlands Antilles, using the name of a another egaming company which is quite famous (
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) and powered by the same software which was developed by a dead Russian online casino doesn't look very serious.
What do you think ?
 

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What do you think ?
You want to know what I think? Well, ok. I'll tell you.

As you know, Hibet.ru was closed due to stupid russian law, which enforce to close all casinos (and online too!) registered in Rus Federation. Russians are going to create 4 gamezones (smthng like russian Las-Vegas).
So it wasn't cause of illegal activity, I mean closing Hibet.ru. They just followed letter of the law. And Hibet interested me as casino which FIRST included RC in all games! And it doesn't mean (for me) in which country they are registered!
And Yes, I think that including RC in all games will stop all complaints like "Oooh, I busted, this stupid SW cheats me!"
And Yes, I tried to attract your attention to this thread because you, like kids, cannot (or just don't want) see evident advantage of RC. Just imagine that! You will be able to CONTROL the game! You won't be just passive players! I cannot believe that it's insufficient to demand including RC in all games (and in all casinos!)! :eek2:
 

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what is randomness control?

sounds like an oxymoron.

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but the fact that it's using the name of a another egaming company which is quite famous (
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) and powered by the same software which was developed by a dead Russian online casino doesn't look very serious.
What I don't like is the similarity in software provider names:
Gamesys NV
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Gamesys Group
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This is a red flag for me, as well as the connections to any business east of the Oder river :D
Being paraphrased by the Meister fills me with joy and brings me the feeling of social recognition I was always waiting for because I deserve it more than anyone else :D
That said, I have to confess that Im a bit disappointed by the answer of SlotMonster.

And Hibet interested me as casino which FIRST included RC in all games!
And Yes, I tried to attract your attention to this thread
So you clearly say that you know Hibets software and its specificity, as its the FIRST included RC in all games!
Flying on WWW i found one unknown (for me) casino - BetVoyager. So could anyone please tell me about this casino? Which software they use?
It looks "not bad", visual, of course. And they have "Randomness Control" option based on SHA-256 algorithm! :eek2:
Any opinions? Want to try to play with.
So why did you start this thread asking which software was using this unknown casino ?
Ive seen Hibets software once and I could recognize it on the fly when I saw BetVoyager.
It looks very sneaky.and this even more: Want to try to play with.
As you know, Hibet.ru was closed due to stupid russian law, which enforce to close all casinos (and online too!) registered in Rus Federation. Russians are going to create 4 gamezones (smthng like russian Las-Vegas).
So it wasn't cause of illegal activity, I mean closing Hibet.ru. They just followed letter of the law. And Hibet interested me as casino which FIRST included RC in all games! And it doesn't mean (for me) in which country they are registered!
Sorry, but I have no information about the reasons which forced Hibet.ru to close, so dont assume I know.

And Yes, I think that including RC in all games will stop all complaints like "Oooh, I busted, this stupid SW cheats me!"
And Yes, I tried to attract your attention to this thread because you, like kids, cannot (or just don't want) see evident advantage of RC. Just imagine that! You will be able to CONTROL the game! You won't be just passive players! I cannot believe that it's insufficient to demand including RC in all games (and in all casinos!)! :eek2:
Thats a passionate speech about RC, SHA-256 checksum or whatever you want to call it, which remembers me another one, performed by Chris Crocker.
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I dont understand your reaction especially because Ive said before that To be honest, I'm quiet interested by the SHA-256 checksum
But as thelawnet explained it before in the Hibet thread, even if its an interesting option to study, it doesnt prevent the player from casino cheating

What does this mean?
Well, it means that the cards were determined before the deck was shuffled. This means that the casino cannot be dealing seconds.
This does not mean that they are not cheating: for instance, you could make the player's first card disproportionately likely to be a six. In other words: if you arrange the deck in a way that is deterimental to the player, then there is no protection.
 

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Time to answer...

(quote) So you clearly say that you know Hibet’s software and its specificity, as it’s the “FIRST included RC in all games!”
Yes, you right, I knew Hibet's specificity, and I found it very impressive.

(quote) So why did you start this thread asking which software was using this unknown casino ?
Cause I still don't know which software they use. All I know that Hibet used self-made SW.
And I thought that BV bought Hibet's SW (just try to remember MG casinos - they all look alike). That's why I asked
you to make it clear for me!

(quote) It looks very sneaky…and this even more: “Want to try to play with.”
And what's so bad? I still cannot understand your words, sorry. When new casino (even if this casino
use well-known SW) heave in sight - they are unknown, don't you think so? You don't know anything about it
f.e. about owner, SW, license, games, payouts, CS, etc. So this casino is still unknown.

(quote) Sorry, but I have no information about the reasons which forced Hibet.ru to close, so don’t assume I know.
NP. Just wanted to make it clear.

(quote) That’s a passionate speech about RC
Agree :)

And another. I will try to give more detailed explanation about Randomness Control. First of all, I must say that it
be better to call it "Invariability Control". Many people (not only in Meisterland) think, that many online-casinos
are able to change game results according to player's bets (say, you placed bet on RED --> they can change result, and it
will be BLACK). Or, let's say, you have 20 on BJ, and Dealer have 6. some tricks with SW --> and Dealer receive 10, and then
5 = 21, and you busted. So, the purpose of Randomness(Invariability) Control is to give to player unanswerable proof that
game results weren't changed DURING THE GAME! So, if you want to compare checksum (which will show you what you must to
receive) with game results (what you actually received) and results will be identical, f.e. numbers on Roulette --> it will
proof that you received exactly the same result, and casino didn't changed numbers during the game session.
Hope, it was clear. And "please feel free to contact me if any questiuon" (CS of I-don't-remember-which-casino) :D
 

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so the verdict is? randomness control is a kind of cool gimmick, but would you really want to use it on every hand? that's a lot of cutting and pasting.
 

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would you really want to use it on every hand?
You do not need to use it in EVERY hand. f.e. on Roulette I can create sequence of 60 numbers (with one checksum), then play these numbers, and then see then all at once :)

that's a lot of cutting and pasting
Agree, but you can check the checksum for selected hands (f.e. if you lose), not for every ;)
 

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good point

i'm a little embrassed to admit that never occurred to me. thanks for the pointer. what about the no house edge promise? is that a common promotion? i assume there's no way to check that it's for real, even with RC.
 

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what about the no house edge promise? is that a common promotion? i assume there's no way to check that it's for real, even with RC.
I think it makes sense to offer this promo :) And yes, you cannot check this :)
 

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RC, baby, RC

maybe i'm naive, but i kinda like the rc function. i mean, until the nevada gaming commission starts regulating online gambling :rolleyes:, it's not like we can ever be 100% on any internet casino. at least rc lets you take verification into your own hands.
on the other hand, maybe it's just because i've had pretty decent luck at betvoyager (at least with the low-stakes bets that i make) that i'm favorably disposed to the site.
 
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