Tips Betreels - AVOID!

[dunover]

OK, Nektan Gib/UK licensed. betreels.com
I was asked to promote them but am immediately going to remove them.

PREDATORY bonus terms.

1. You cannot opt-out of bonus.
2. You can't play anything but Netent (no WMS Nextgen etc.) under bonus.
3. Insane 4xbonus cash-out limit. ALWAYS enforced.
4. You deposit is NOT included in your max cash-out.

So I tried them out, as I always do when I promote a new site. I deposited 20, got the 200% SUB (max 50) of £40 on top.
This meant I had 60 pounds, all bonus, with a WR of £1200 (30 x the 40 SUB). Naturally I had an insane run on Twin Spin and hit over £600. I then went over to Aloha Cluster F*ck and played £1 a spin. Suddenly, my 480-odd balance dropped to £160!!! Yes, I had cleared WR and they reduced me to 4x£40 bonus in cash.

Even though my £20 deposit was added to bonus the system didn't allow a max w/d of 4 x 60 (£240) but as I said only the 4xSUB.

So, say you deposited £250 cash and received the max £50 SUB you would only be able to w/d your deposit, maximum!
If you deposited any more than £250, say £300, it is IMPOSSIBLE for you not to lose money!

It fails to state if I had won more cash with that £160 cash I had once WR was done. if I could increase that and w/d more than 4xSUB.

One w/d every 24 hours. Up to 72 hours pending. Late Wednesday I made my £98 w/d, still sitting there reversible.

Betreels.com removed from my page, I would suggest you avoid this predatory and blatantly unfair casino.

 

[Jono777]

Crazy and appreciate the info as I get a lot of emails from this group, yet to join and after reading your OP I won't be!

Never happen but I'd love to be around the day these clip joints and FU term writers get closed down, never to return!

Its the poor 'none forum' users I feel sorry for. I bet there are horror stories happening all over the world on a daily basis!

 

[MightyDuck]

You can not opt-out of a bonus?

 

[spintee]

Cheers but not herd of them,

Still beggars the question why list them in the first place ? You done the right thing and tested them out, Alot would not,

Its like the site I signed up to by skrill once, Cleared wager and balance gone exept like 100, After talking to no help they steted as they added a 10 bonus, Which is a joke as the original bonus I nether did receive

 

[curremon]

Thats so low...
I can imagine how they laugh when player deposits amount where no winning is possible..

 

[KasinoKing]

This is a new casino, with the affy side being run by the former "Refilliates Rep".
However, he has only just got on board there and has not had the chance to "wield his influence" over the set up of the operation.
(See discussion on AGD)

I'm sure in time they will review these terms to be more "player friendly": they'll have to, otherwise they will be going no-where fast IMHO.

KK

 

[dunover]

This is a new casino, with the affy side being run by the former "Refilliates Rep".
However, he has only just got on board there and has not had the chance to "wield his influence" over the set up of the operation.
(See discussion on AGD)

I'm sure in time they will review these terms to be more "player friendly": they'll have to, otherwise they will be going no-where fast IMHO.

KK

Yes, I had my w/d processed about 48 hours later by the look of it. Once the hideous bonus issue is sorted, and they can get processing down to <24 hours I'd say they would be OK.

Spintee - the site was up barely 24 hours. I saw the terms stated receipt time of debit card w/d's 3-5 days. To get them in 3 days they'd have to process in 24 hours. Once they didn't, I removed them. Nobody played with them except my test account.

 

[Tirilej]

This is a new casino, with the affy side being run by the former "Refilliates Rep".
However, he has only just got on board there and has not had the chance to "wield his influence" over the set up of the operation.
(See discussion on AGD)

I'm sure in time they will review these terms to be more "player friendly": they'll have to, otherwise they will be going no-where fast IMHO.

KK

Are you talking about Dieter? I've seen a change of name in the emails but just thought they hired someone new.

Edit: Forget my question. I was in reading the thread at AGD instead.

 

[incrediblestuff]

OK, Nektan Gib/UK licensed. betreels.com
I was asked to promote them but am immediately going to remove them.

PREDATORY bonus terms.

1. You cannot opt-out of bonus.
2. You can't play anything but Netent (no WMS Nextgen etc.) under bonus.
3. Insane 4xbonus cash-out limit. ALWAYS enforced.
4. You deposit is NOT included in your max cash-out.

So I tried them out, as I always do when I promote a new site. I deposited 20, got the 200% SUB (max 50) of £40 on top.
This meant I had 60 pounds, all bonus, with a WR of £1200 (30 x the 40 SUB). Naturally I had an insane run on Twin Spin and hit over £600. I then went over to Aloha Cluster F*ck and played £1 a spin. Suddenly, my 480-odd balance dropped to £160!!! Yes, I had cleared WR and they reduced me to 4x£40 bonus in cash.

Even though my £20 deposit was added to bonus the system didn't allow a max w/d of 4 x 60 (£240) but as I said only the 4xSUB.

So, say you deposited £250 cash and received the max £50 SUB you would only be able to w/d your deposit, maximum!
If you deposited any more than £250, say £300, it is IMPOSSIBLE for you not to lose money!

It fails to state if I had won more cash with that £160 cash I had once WR was done. if I could increase that and w/d more than 4xSUB.

One w/d every 24 hours. Up to 72 hours pending. Late Wednesday I made my £98 w/d, still sitting there reversible.

Betreels.com removed from my page, I would suggest you avoid this predatory and blatantly unfair casino.

Yes you tested the Casino, as you always do|? so you didn't read the rules before you put them on your site, and you didn't play there several times and check all the departments so you know who and what your actually listing?

Come on dunover, if you want to be a 'good' affiliate, you need to take it up a notch..
I'm critical, because i've seen u bash a lot of affiliates before in a 'generalizing' manner, pointing out one or two of your mates that would be the 'only' few good ones, and that stung me a bit, and now you aren't doing your own homework properly: you state you always read the T&C's etc, but you obviously didn't here.


Stuff like that pisses me off, and since you have become very popular, and people follow your whims and guidelines, you should act the part, and be the best example - i.m.o.
I am having a bad day, and of course it's good you put this warning up..so carry on, but maybe make a testing period longer then just taking up one offer.

 

[dunover]

Yes you tested the Casino, as you always do|? so you didn't read the rules before you put them on your site, and you didn't play there several times and check all the departments so you know who and what your actually listing?

Come on dunover, if you want to be a 'good' affiliate, you need to take it up a notch..
I'm critical, because i've seen u bash a lot of affiliates before in a 'generalizing' manner, pointing out one or two of your mates that would be the 'only' few good ones, and that stung me a bit, and now you aren't doing your own homework properly: you state you always read the T&C's etc, but you obviously didn't here.


Stuff like that pisses me off, and since you have become very popular, and people follow your whims and guidelines, you should act the part, and be the best example - i.m.o.
I am having a bad day, and of course it's good you put this warning up..so carry on, but maybe make a testing period longer then just taking up one offer.

I did read them first, but many new sites have generic terms that aren't properly edited first and don't enforce the rules, i.e. there are other sites here accredited which have a 6xD max cash-out in the terms but seldom enforce it. How many times do we see this on CM, a new BbF site comes along, we point out things wrong and then the rep corrects them etc?

Plus this lot were passed to me via a respectable channel and I have informed them that at present the site is not promotable IMO.

This lot do enforce those bad terms though, and automatically through your balance. Once I found out they got the boot. No other tests are needed, because this trumps all else. They could pay out in 10 seconds, but won't be promoted with predatory bonus terms.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Appreciate the additional info, and like i said, i am having a wee issue with the 'ole temper today, but i do stand by my words that it would be better to extend testing periods, before deciding to share links on your site.
That way you won't have the risk of players signing up, and facing those exact traps...

Also, when you are already promoting a site that does things differently then they used to, i.e. change terms to something like a 6x max cash-out, it 's also an option to put a disclaimer with that info on your site, and even kill links for the time being, until you cleared up the issue, or are sure the casino's are no longer worth promoting, etc.

 

[Tirilej]

Since Nektan seems to be for mobile casinos and more for uk customers I have never bothered to check them.

Now I read a couple of earlier threads in here (this was not the first about Betreels), and the one in AGD.
Obviously it seems like the rules for bonuses is the same all over and are set by Nektan.

Another strange rule Nicole had posted about was that you were only allowed to have three accounts in total. It seems like it's easy to fall in to traps with these casinos and they may be good for business but not player friendly at all.

 

[DANB9191]

Nektan are crap !!

The amount of sites Nektan have and you're only allowed to sign up to 3 of them ?? And now they cap withdrawals that requires a deposit to such a shitty amount ?? No thanks.. I think I will avoid

 

[spintee]

I just got two email about this site, KK pointed oiut that an old rep from the other sites is running the business.
Looks to be true, MAX CASH OUT from free 5 is 20 wager x100