Betonline Casino Cheating - video for proof

griffeyfan25

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Can everyone agree this looks very much like cheating by betonline? I have played a lot here and always felt like something wasn't right. Ban me if this is crap but looks legit to me. Video isn't the most appropriate sorry.


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griffeyfan25

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There's a word to describe that guy talking in the video but I won't use it here.

Like I said he's no appropriate in anyway but try to look past that. Looks like blatant cheating. He feels up the card with his fingers almost like it's maybe marked and then slides it up and deals the one behind it.
 

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wow thats really outrageous. Holy christ.
When he cheated, how did he know what the cards were in order to make the player lose? An earpiece telling him? The card being marked doesnt really make sense because how does he know what the card is behind it?

And that was far from smooth for anyone who was paying attention.

bad!

And how does this guy have viewers? Annoying or what?
 

griffeyfan25

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wow thats really outrageous. Holy christ.
When he cheated, how did he know what the cards were in order to make the player lose? An earpiece telling him? The card being marked doesnt really make sense because how does he know what the card is behind it?

And that was far from smooth for anyone who was paying attention.

bad!

Your right I'm kinda stumped on how he knows what the cards are but there has to be a way I'm guessing. something went wrong there with the hand manipulation because I have played hundreds of hours of live blackjack at this casino and never once noticed the slight of hand.
 

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There's a shorter video out there and it's in full view. The guy clearly takes the card behind the other to get a win for him. Disgusting.

I hope Ballinlive saw this. He has claimed that they pull this BS all the time and we see it here.
 

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And how does this guy have viewers? Annoying or what?

They love annoying people. The most popular people on social media/YT are usually the ones who are the most grating to the ears. Minecraft players, gamblers, attention seekers, all of them. Of course, their fanbases are wannabes. If you aren't a total douchebag, you're doing it all wrong.
 

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This might be better for people who dont want to hear that loud mouth. It has slow motion too even though you dont need it.

Something is strange here because it was too obvious. And hes looking at the camera like a signal or something and you can tell by his body language hes about to do something shady

 
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What I want to know is why people watch this "biggest upcoming mf youtuber right now" (his own words) :eek2: .. I couldn't stand him long enough to even get to the part where he shows the cheating..:rolleyes:
 

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What I want to know is why people watch this "biggest upcoming mf youtuber right now" (his own words) :eek2: .. I couldn't stand him long enough to even get to the part where he shows the cheating..:rolleyes:

Agree with that..I thought it was only 'hear say' people actually spoke like that.....
Anyway certainly doesn't look above board from the dealer, certainly a few questions need answering.
 

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What's with the constant swearing with this guy? I'm sure he thinks he has a point to make and *might* be an ok guy if it weren't for that obscenities act he has going on.

He just demeans himself when speaking, which is unfortunate. Wash his mouth out with soap! :D
 

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Agree with that..I thought it was only 'hear say' people actually spoke like that.....
Anyway certainly doesn't look above board from the dealer, certainly a few questions need answering.

pretty short conversation to be had

"why did you cheat and have your dealer signaling with the camera"

"oops we didnt meant to get caught"
 

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My concern is if they can do that to games we CAN see and clearly witness, what can they do to games we cannot (IE: The mechanics of all online slots we play daily!!!)
 

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I genuinely think that this is blown out of proportion. The fact that online casinos hire chirpy, upbeat youngsters to deal these games without any dealing skills or proper training is where the problem's at.

They're not cheating people, certainly not on purpose anyway. It's the dealer's terrible card dealing that doesn't hold up, but it's ok because he smiles for the camera. Not to mention the gaggle of pretty women who are there to provide eye candy to the hapless punter, who particularly doesn't mind as much as if it had been a dog-ugly but competent BJ artiste :cool:

Half these internet croupiers wouldn't even pass a table test at any B&M casino, they're outright laughably crap. Jono no doubt also knows what a proficient dealer ought to look like!
 

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Indeed mate!

I've been out of the game almost 18 years now and could still do a much better job than that dude.

Still know my 8, 17 and 35 x tables too :p
 

goatwack

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Indeed mate!

I've been out of the game almost 18 years now and could still do a much better job than that dude.

Still know my 8, 17 and 35 x tables too :p

You're about three pay grades above me Jon :thumbsup:

I done a year of BJ so I was pretty good at it, and was getting quite cushty just dealing the same stuff. Then I got about three months of Roulette under my belt, I hated dealing that, especially the left-handed one :mad:

I bet even now you could deal my ass into oblivion :oops:
 

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My concern is if they can do that to games we CAN see and clearly witness, what can they do to games we cannot (IE: The mechanics of all online slots we play daily!!!)

Its bad for everyone. Its going to put a bad light on all casinos. It was on the front page of reddit for awhile with many people seeing and talking about it. And the video already has a quarter million views. Especially for the people who arent very familiar with the term accredited and such, therefore people will jump to the conclusion all casinos cheat.

This guy was dumb how he did it. It looks like the camera was supposed to glitch out or something because how can you be that bad and think you are smooth. So its more than obvious this casino is involved in cheating especially considering the dealer knew all the cards in the deck and the placement and surely he isnt doing it just for fun

Its funny how one single moment can define a company. Betonline will never be the same and will always be known as 'that' casino
 

goatwack

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Its bad for everyone. Its going to put a bad light on all casinos. It was on the front page of reddit for awhile with many people seeing and talking about it. And the video already has a quarter million views. Especially for the people who arent very familiar with the term accredited and such, therefore people will jump to the conclusion all casinos cheat.

This guy was dumb how he did it. It looks like the camera was supposed to glitch out or something because how can you be that bad and think you are smooth. So its more than obvious this casino is involved in cheating especially considering the dealer knew all the cards in the deck and the placement and surely he isnt do it just for fun

Its funny how one single moment can define a company. Betonline will never be the same and will always be known as 'that' casino

Sorry but this shows how people will fall over themselves with a non-story. The guy's a terrible dealer, pure and simple, and for some to suggest that the higher-ups know the entire order of the cards is absurd.

But even going by that cuckoo theory, the dealer's in no way skilled enough with what I presume to be his weaker hand to have the dexterity to dabble one card up and pull the next one!
 

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Sorry but this shows how people will fall over themselves with a non-story. The guy's a terrible dealer, pure and simple, and for some to suggest that the higher-ups know the entire order of the cards is absurd.

But even going by that cuckoo theory, the dealer's in no way skilled enough with what I presume to be his weaker hand to have the dexterity to dabble one card up and pull the next one!

I think you are trying a little too hard to be different here. Which isnt quite a bad thing.

Atleast you made me laugh!
 

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dealer does seem to pull what looks like an unnatural smile during the process. Reminds me somewhat of a movie scene where a foreign guy robs a holidaymaker while trying to smile & act really nice and innocent during the process :D . Prolly lookin to much into that but hey.
Loaded up his 74 minute video on the subject titled "kicked out again....." to browse through the comments, someone was kind enough to alert people of some underhand scratch n sniff action at 57:55 & 1:00:20 :eek2:
 

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You're about three pay grades above me Jon :thumbsup:

I done a year of BJ so I was pretty good at it, and was getting quite cushty just dealing the same stuff. Then I got about three months of Roulette under my belt, I hated dealing that, especially the left-handed one :mad:

I bet even now you could deal my ass into oblivion :oops:

Lol as a dealer I was VERY lucky at Black Jack, my downfall is I let it show too often that I wasn't "Best Pleased" when those days when I couldn't stop busting did pop up now and then.

I pulled so many 21's out of shitty positions some even 6 & 7 card tricks :eek:

Worked on tables for about 2 years solid and then Inspector for another 2 (which saw dealing reduced by about 50%) - Pit Boss for the final 12 months or so before I packed it all in due to the travelling and long hours finally took their toll on me (Basically knackered all the time lol)

With the roulette it was a totally different scenario, Firstly I'd regularly be having my ball retrieved from various areas of the casino and the adjoining bar area :oops:

Then I got better at it and could 'speed deal' if manager came over and gave the 'hidden code' for "Get rid of him sharpish".

Some will not believe this but I could also drop the ball in a certain area (range of say 10 numbers) 30-40% of the time.

Another 'Party Piece' of mine was that at the start of a shift the starting position to do the very first spin of the day from was determined by the date.

I'd say to whoever was about "Watch this, no need to place the ball, I'll spin the date" - Very unlikely as 36-1 against but the amount of times I actually succeeded was very scary indeed!!!!

Don't miss it one bit but would love to deal a bot of both roulette n BJ to some mates one day for a couple of hours.

Maybe we could arrange some sort of 'Mid season- Table games - UK Meister Meet' :p :p
 

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They love annoying people. The most popular people on social media/YT are usually the ones who are the most grating to the ears. Minecraft players, gamblers, attention seekers, all of them. Of course, their fanbases are wannabes. If you aren't a total douchebag, you're doing it all wrong.

From a quick look at his other videos, he's got it down pat.

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From a quick look at his other videos, he's got it down pat.

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Wow. Burns $10,000 in a fire just because.

:what:

It would have been nice of him to say to all my haters, im donating $10,000 to such and such charity that doesnt take a large bottom line. Instead, he tried playing mr show off. Oh well, his money I guess so he can do what he wants.
 

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This might be better for people who dont want to hear that loud mouth. It has slow motion too even though you dont need it.

Something is strange here because it was too obvious. And hes looking at the camera like a signal or something and you can tell by his body language hes about to do something shady


Omg,this actually happens in real money plays?

This dude should be fired and never get any employment in the casino industry anymore.
And the casino he is working for? Time for an immediate closure? :eek2:

I don't play BJ, Roulette and all that shit but man, this is some scumbag cheating.
 
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Only on this forum can you have a casino BLATANTLY 100% CHEATING and people take issue with the dude in the video:rolleyes:

It is quite clear he is cheating and switching cards. This should be a big issue, not about some idiot swearing.
 
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