betfred does not pay me for no reason!!

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Casinomeister

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Big_panaso said:
hi,

first, I would like to say it was quite rude of spearmaster to expose infomration he got, probably from my IP.
What if I told my wife I am going to a business meeting in Paris while instead I went with my mistress to Colombia?

second, yes, I was in Colombia, I did not read anything in the terms of the casinomeister web site saying that I have to log in to the forum only from my place of residency.
by the way, I will save your time, I am in the UK right now, any problem with that?

and third, I really do not get bet fraud casino. I opened the account, played and cashed out from holland, so what reason do they have to withhold my payment? I sent the casinomeister all the documents as well a week ago but so far, nothing.
Spearmaster was acting in the role of a moderator. Player fraud is truly a big problem, and one indicator is for players to sign up from one country and claim they are from another. He was only being vigilant in protecting the veracity of the board.

I have received your documents and forwarded them to the casino.
 

Big_panaso

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making a point

hi,

first, I would like to point out that I respect this site right to check players IP. that can be very helpful in preventing frauds. what made me upsate was that instead of sending me an email asking me for an explanation they choose to publish the data on the thread. not only mine but also Picassotime.

now, I want to make this issue clear. I opened my account in Betfred from Holland, played and cashout from Holland and as far as I remember I have never logged in to my account from a different country. 100% I did not log in from Colombia.
However, if that is the probelm of the casino, what does it have to do with my documents?

So, what makes me crazy now is that betfred is not paying for a long time, they did not provide any reason, not for me and I think not for the casinomeister.

finally, I am not a law expert but I think that even if gambling is illegal in Holland the casino should either not accept players from holland or accept them and pay. I think any other way would be unfair.

thanks.
 

spearmaster

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Big_panaso said:
first, I would like to point out that I respect this site right to check players IP. that can be very helpful in preventing frauds. what made me upsate was that instead of sending me an email asking me for an explanation they choose to publish the data on the thread. not only mine but also Picassotime.
Not like we actually published any data or IPs. It's also not normal practice for us to send emails to members, except newsletters which you must sign up separately for anyhow.

finally, I am not a law expert but I think that even if gambling is illegal in Holland the casino should either not accept players from holland or accept them and pay. I think any other way would be unfair.

Well, if you have been paid in the past by BetFred, and of course they knew you were in Holland, then they should continue to pay you. If, on the other hand, you played but have not cashed out before, it's a bit less clear. I think that they should automatically have stopped you right from the start. So now we just have to find out what happened - if you've sent the documents to CM then he can have the casino look at them. So, to make it short, I agree with you.
 

picassotime

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I have been away for awhile...

Anyway I didn't understand what spearmaster meant with his cryptic replies. Thanks for explaining Big_panaso. But I still don't understand because I am from Arizona.

Anyway the reality is that Bet 'Fraud' (not Fred LOL) still hasn't paid me in over 4 months. I pitched a bitch with the casinomeister a while ago. I know he is busy. But is there any progress with this situation?
 

spearmaster

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picassotime said:
I have been away for awhile...

Anyway I didn't understand what spearmaster meant with his cryptic replies. Thanks for explaining Big_panaso. But I still don't understand because I am from Arizona.

Anyway the reality is that Bet 'Fraud' (not Fred LOL) still hasn't paid me in over 4 months. I pitched a bitch with the casinomeister a while ago. I know he is busy. But is there any progress with this situation?

You wouldn't happen to be in Vegas at the moment, would you?
 

whiterat1

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spearmaster said:
Not like we actually published any data or IPs. It's also not normal practice for us to send emails to members, except newsletters which you must sign up separately for anyhow.



Well, if you have been paid in the past by BetFred, and of course they knew you were in Holland, then they should continue to pay you. If, on the other hand, you played but have not cashed out before, it's a bit less clear. I think that they should automatically have stopped you right from the start. So now we just have to find out what happened - if you've sent the documents to CM then he can have the casino look at them. So, to make it short, I agree with you.
If you are going to do this you need to know the legal definition of publish.

Be careful in future.

Your comments were clearly published.
 

spearmaster

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whiterat1 said:
If you are going to do this you need to know the legal definition of publish.

Be careful in future.

Your comments were clearly published.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you are getting at - care to clarify?
 

picassotime

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QUOTE]You wouldn't happen to be in Vegas at the moment, would you?[/QUOTE]

Actually no, spearmaster, I am not in Las Vegas. I am in Arizona right now and have always been here. Does this have anything to do with Bet Fred's stiffing me?
 

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Big_panaso said:
What if I told my wife I am going to a business meeting in Paris while instead I went with my mistress to Colombia?

,,,
by the way, I will save your time, I am in the UK right now, any problem with that?
:lolup: :thumbsup: :notworthy
 

lottethedog

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the whole thread is a joke!

a guy in various parts of the world.....buying fax machines to send in documents LOL

Where did you buy your fax machine? Columbia, UK Holland ????

Issues like this make it hard for real player to get paid
 

Big_panaso

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someone at home??

hi,

what is going on here? any news?

I sent the casinomeister my documents 2 weeks ago.

Betfred can not ignore this issue forever. Either come forward with some proof to your allegations (which I do not understood what are they) or pay me the money.

and the casinomeister, if this is going on, maybe it is time to black list them.

thanks.
 

wasb

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Hi,

I am having the exact same problem with Bet Fred! I made a cash in and Bet Fred asked me to provide a copy of my ID and a recent utility bill. I e-mailed them a scanned copy of both...they would not accept them. Said they had to be faxed. I did not have a fax machine so I went and bought one and faxed them what they wanted. Here is the response from Bet Fred:

Dear Stephen,

Thank you for contacting Betfred Casino.

We have received your documents and after being checked you have failed the security check.

We will not be approving your cashout request and have returned your original deposit back to your Neteller account.

Betfred does not wish to offer you an account in the future so it will remain closed. We now consider the matter closed.

Regards

Casino Manager
Betfred Casino and Poker
I aksed them how I failed their security check and they did not answer. They still haven't answered.

Bet Fred does not like to pay their winners. I am really hoping someone can help.
 
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Is this a wind up thread..have better things to do:rolleyes:
 

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Hi,

I am having the exact same problem with Bet Fred! I made a cash in and Bet Fred asked me to provide a copy of my ID and a recent utility bill. I e-mailed them a scanned copy of both...they would not accept them. Said they had to be faxed. I did not have a fax machine so I went and bought one and faxed them what they wanted. Here is the response from Bet Fred:

Dear Stephen,

Thank you for contacting Betfred Casino.

We have received your documents and after being checked you have failed the security check.

We will not be approving your cashout request and have returned your original deposit back to your Neteller account.

Betfred does not wish to offer you an account in the future so it will remain closed. We now consider the matter closed.

Regards

Casino Manager
Betfred Casino and Poker
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I aksed them how I failed their security check and they did not answer. They still haven't answered.

Bet Fred does not like to pay their winners. I am really hoping someone can help.
The thread you posted on is 15 years old !!
 
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