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Beted.com said they arent paying me

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by cupojoe, Nov 22, 2009.

    Nov 22, 2009
  1. cupojoe

    cupojoe Banned User

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    pittsburgh, pa
    I deposited two weeks ago, sent in my fax of my drivers license and bank statment as i deposited by online check and they called me and said wanted to verify my phone number and that i would be able to withdraw my winnings after ten business days so yesterday i login to my account and see that my funds are available for withdrawal and i make a withdrawal request. Well, today i go to login into my account and i cant login! so i email them and they said i had other accounts with them awhile ago and some uncollected chk deposits so they closed my account and arent paying me my winnings nor my deposit back! I emailed them right back and said i never had an account with them and that maybe they got me confused with some one else or used the same name but they definately dont have any former account with me as i never faxed in anything before. I told them that is totaly rediculous that they would take my deposit, let me play for two weeks, accept my faxes, tell me i can withdraw after ten business days, and then when i go to withdraw they close my account and keep my deposit and winnings! i said if they dont say theyll pay me by monday , ill call my bank and charge it back and tell the bank it looks like a casino online check deposit and that they are the ONLY CASINO breaking the law by involving banks by accepting online checksand that the bank shoudl contact the FBI (with them breaking the internet gambling and port act) . ( i know poker places still take online checks but beted.com is the ONLY CASINO AND SPORTBOOK to take them) i am so mad right now i said ill go on a million ip addresses and make a million accounts and milion fake check deposits to ruin their online chk system which is ILEGAL anyways! if anyone can help me, id appreciate it but i hate them so much right now and will get their online chk processor shut down from me or the fbi that shur down netller for that among other thingsunless they pay me .
     
  2. Nov 27, 2009
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    United Kingdom

    Firing off these threats is not going to help. This makes it look as though you are up to something, and have changed to a blackmailing tactic after being "busted" for those other accounts. It will serve only to strengthen their view that they were right in the first place about you being a fraudster.

    As well as the other accounts, they are claiming uncollected cheque deposits. The latter is probably why they are keeping your current deposit, and they will certainly keep it now they have been told you are initiating a "chargeback" with your bank.

    Your chances for a PAB helping have probably been wrecked as well. It could have helped a great deal to have taken the PAB route, and disputed the multiple account claims. Once you had proven you did not open these old accounts, you would then no longer meet the criteria under which they denied payment, and they would probably have paid you in the end.

    From other posts, it has become clear that the US institutions have known more than they have been letting on that customers have been making gambling transactions, and it seems many had decided to wait till December 1st, to implement a decent blocking system, rather than rush something through before they were legally required to.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2009
  5. cupojoe

    cupojoe Banned User

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    pittsburgh, pa
    got deposit back at least

    so yea they never paid me. least my bank was quick to give me my deposit back and will look into why an online casino broke the unlawful internet gambling act with their bank, not happy about that, but thats $2500 in winnings down the drain, unbelievable, let me play for two weeks, said my documents were fine that i faxed in, then when i win they wont pay me.
    I am going to do everythingggg in my power to shut down their online check processor, the onlyyy and i mean onlyyy casino/sportsbook that takes online checks from USA players. I hope me opening a couple hundred accounts with fake instant check deposits causes so much headaches and processing errors that they will have wisheddd they paid me. I will report back after i do that this week, just have to do it from multiple ip addresses. I think i will email them this thread, should I?? they are wrong because if i wouldve lost in those two weeks, they would have said NOTHING but i won and thats when theres a problem, fukkk thatttttt. I want my $2500 in winnings . ill report back
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2009
  6. Dec 2, 2009
  7. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

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    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    You know two wrongs don't make it right in continuing to do what your planning to do will get you in a whole heap of hot s**t.
     
  8. Dec 2, 2009
  9. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
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    I think that statement right there puts things in a different light.

    If the OP is prepared to do this (and obviously knows HOW) then chances are they probably DID have multiple accounts and is only angry because they got caught. I mean, how can you confuse rubber checks??? The casino knows where the check came from, and it was either you or it wasnt.....and I'll put my $10 for the week on it being YOU.

    If you want to post this kind of childish nonsense, go to the 'Sesame Street' forum where you will be among your peers.
     
  10. Dec 2, 2009
  11. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

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    You hit the nail right on the head.
     
  12. Dec 2, 2009
  13. slotheadlizard

    slotheadlizard Senior Member

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    Not only that Veg. , they have now laid out their entire plan to a casino that are trying to defraud, and "shut down". In reality it may create some busy work. I'm sure they read the public threads here. Its like telling a bank you will rob them in advance. Just crazy IMO.

    OP, this is not a dig at you, you may have very well been slighted, however, this is an ill advised plan that will not work. Good Luck

    *No you should not email them this thread, you should ask a mod to delete it. You are admitting to planning fraudulent activity in an open forum. Please reconsider.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2009
  15. cupojoe

    cupojoe Banned User

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    pittsburgh, pa
    i was mistaken

    the casino emailed me and said they refunded my deposit when i thought my bank had already done the chargeback which seemed too fast. luckily and to my surprise, they offered me , my deposit back which already hit my bank , and $600 CASH today if i signed something saying this is the final resolution to the matter and i took it. im shocked they gave me this but its the right thing. Casinos should verify deposits or players upfront before they let them play, like require a simple fax of drviers license or id, so this doesnt happen. They wouldnt have offered me this $600 profit if they didnt think they were somewhat wrong. they still shouldnt be taking online checks, not one other place can anyone name here that does for USA players, only a few poker places, not casinos/sportbooks like they do.
     
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  16. Dec 3, 2009
  17. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

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    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    I am glad you didn't go through with your plans. It would of been hella of a mess.
     
  18. Dec 3, 2009
  19. 4 of a kind

    4 of a kind Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll

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    Trans. Tech
    Location:
    New York
    Please shake me and tell me I'm dreaming :confused:
     
  20. Dec 8, 2009
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Location:
    United Kingdom

    Pity, looks like you would have got the full $2500 if you had gone down the PAB route. They would NOT have even offered $600 if they believed you were trying to defraud them. They probably already knew that you ruined your chances for a PAB by making these threats, and decided to offer $600 to get rid of you, rather than have you continue.

    Unfortunately, this could also give others the impression they "paid you off" BECAUSE of the threats, something they may regret in time.
     
  22. Dec 8, 2009
  23. bernynhel

    bernynhel Dormant account PABnononaccred PABnoaccred

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    Los Angeles
    Uh, who is going to get the impression that they paid cupojoe off because of the threats and at exactly what time were they born yesterday?

    If that's even remotely possible, can't there just be a note somewhere, or something?


    NOTE - ANYONE READING THIS AND UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY PAID CUPOJOE OFF BECAUSE OF THE THREATS: KNOCK IT OFF!!!
     
  24. Dec 8, 2009
  25. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    What I couldn't figure out was why the $600. He either won $2500, or he didn't. They had two clear options, return the deposits, or pay the winnings. This looks like they got into the trap of trying to "negotiate" when they initially had no intention whatsoever to pay the winnings, because terms were breached. The last time a casino tried this to get out of paying a legitimate player was Joyland, who tricked a player into accepting half of her huge $4M+ jackpot in a "full and final settlement", because they tried to enforce a staged payment schedule that would otherwise have taken decades. It seemed Joyland also wanted this big win "off the books", and for less than face value, and shortly after this the casino changed hands. There are STILL unanswered questions in this case, and the CURRENT case looks like a player who was genuinely legitimate, but VERY impatient, and went about pursuing their claim in the wrong manner.

    Once the threat was made, and the deposits charged back, the casino should have offered NOTHING, since at this point, the player most certainly DID breach the terms and conditions, and further, made it impossible to "unwind" what he had done.
    Whatever WE think, this player, if NOT legit, could go bragging about getting "paid off" by being offered part payment of the proceeds of "abusing" multiple accounts BECAUSE of the way he pursued the claim.

    There is a very similar thread regarding Mayflower casino. Player makes complaint, and then starts the threats, in this case, buying up similar web domains, and threatening to publish negatively about the business. Mayflower casino did NOT offer a partial settlement, they contacted Max to say they would like this dispute to go through the PAB process, in spite of how the player handled it. Now, Mayflower are back in the driving seat, the player has to put up, or shut up. No PAB, or a failed PAB, will have him branded a "rogue player", and whatever he does with those domains, will NOT make Casinomeister members think the casino is bad, in fact, the more "crap" that is published on these domains, the less likely it is to be taken seriously.
     

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