Betat - Bringit Affiliates Issue

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For those that aren't aware - Kindred (Unibet) have added a Minimum Activity Quota to their contract today.....

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Yes, and possibly Bet-at (Bringit) too? I have a query in with their rep at the moment as I have positive earnings and nothing showing in my balance, along with some changes to the info bar underneath which had some new abbreviations added, such as 'NDP 1-5' which is insinuating no payment unless at least one NDP? Under Slotty Vegas it has 0-6, so possibly I've missed a minimum quota having been added there? I am still awaiting an explanation from their rep.
 

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These are EXACTLY the types of changes we should all be working together to prevent. I'm hoping to find a lot more aff email addresses in my inbox in the near future.

Let me know what you get back from BringIt.

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These are EXACTLY the types of changes we should all be working together to prevent. I'm hoping to find a lot more aff email addresses in my inbox in the near future.

Let me know what you get back from BringIt.

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Will do, but something's definitely amiss.
 

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Will do, but something's definitely amiss.

Well the Aff manager at Betat told me to stop promoting them for the moment as they have an audit going on with regards Hybrid plans (I am on a hybrid plan with them). Not sure what it is all about other than that she said I shouldn't be too concerned.
 

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Well the Aff manager at Betat told me to stop promoting them for the moment as they have an audit going on with regards Hybrid plans (I am on a hybrid plan with them). Not sure what it is all about other than that she said I shouldn't be too concerned.
Well I'm on RS and something's up. I've also noticed a few of the Slotty Vegas banners have been redirected to Bet-at...... Maybe they're running that one down, as Guts are with Betspin?
 

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Yes, and possibly Bet-at (Bringit) too? I have a query in with their rep at the moment as I have positive earnings and nothing showing in my balance, along with some changes to the info bar underneath which had some new abbreviations added, such as 'NDP 1-5' which is insinuating no payment unless at least one NDP? Under Slotty Vegas it has 0-6, so possibly I've missed a minimum quota having been added there? I am still awaiting an explanation from their rep.

Under my rev share plan I see

Product Brand Source Threshold Criteria Type Percentage
Casino All All 0 - 10 No of New Active Customers N/A 0.00%
Casino All All 10 - 25 No of New Active Customers N/A 10.00%
Casino All All 25 - 50 No of New Active Customers N/A 15.00%
Casino All All 50 - 9999 No of New Active Customers N/A 20.00%
Casino All All €0.00 - €5,000.00 Net Revenue N/A 15.00%
Casino All All €20,000.00 - €999,999.00 Net Revenue N/A 25.00%
Casino All All €5,000.00 - €20,000.00 Net Revenue N/A 20.00%

Which suggests to me, under 10 new active customers will result in 0.00%
 

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Under my rev share plan I see

Product Brand Source Threshold Criteria Type Percentage
Casino All All 0 - 10 No of New Active Customers N/A 0.00%
Casino All All 10 - 25 No of New Active Customers N/A 10.00%
Casino All All 25 - 50 No of New Active Customers N/A 15.00%
Casino All All 50 - 9999 No of New Active Customers N/A 20.00%
Casino All All €0.00 - €5,000.00 Net Revenue N/A 15.00%
Casino All All €20,000.00 - €999,999.00 Net Revenue N/A 25.00%
Casino All All €5,000.00 - €20,000.00 Net Revenue N/A 20.00%

Which suggests to me, under 10 new active customers will result in 0.00%

But the 0-5,000 net rev contradicts that as I read it that you still get 15% commission? Confused dot com here.
 

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But the 0-5,000 net rev contradicts that as I read it that you still get 15% commission? Confused dot com here.

I agree, however I'm sure there wasn't a 15% band when I signed up either.
Maybe we should start another thread rather than clutter this one up with it, and maybe get the rep to comment?
 

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I agree, however I'm sure there wasn't a 15% band when I signed up either.


Maybe we should start another thread rather than clutter this one up with it, and maybe get the rep to comment?

There wasn't. This is why I am investigating the potentially surreptitious changes.
I have been PM'ing him trying to do so - nada aside from he's waiting for them to get back to him, a week or more.
I'll leave it until I hear something.
 

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There wasn't. This is why I am investigating the potentially surreptitious changes.
I have been PM'ing him trying to do so - nada aside from he's waiting for them to get back to him, a week or more.
I'll leave it until I hear something.

It doesn't take a decent affiliate manager a week to reply, especially to someone else in the same company, sounds like stalling tactics to me. I am 100% sure I haven't had any email telling me of these changes though.
I'll ask Bryan to move the posts from this one on this subject to a new thread and ask him to get the rep to comment :)
 

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It doesn't take a decent affiliate manager a week to reply, especially to someone else in the same company, sounds like stalling tactics to me. I am 100% sure I haven't had any email telling me of these changes though.
I'll ask Bryan to move the posts from this one on this subject to a new thread and ask him to get the rep to comment :)


I already got in touch with Bryan a week ago, he's noticed some variations too.

But I agree, maybe a different thread as although this was originally intended as a one-post observation in the context of thePOGG's Union idea (and as he said a glowing example of why it's needed!) it has diverted too much from the OP thread. Apologies.
 
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Yeah, it would be appreciated if someone from Betat gets involved here.
 

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Hey,

I'm not with the business any longer. I've always intended to retire and sell out by the time i hit 36, and that's in few months :)

Accordingly, business has been sold last year and I've left the company as CEO.

That said, I know a few things:

1. Jorge, to my knowledge, is still head of marketing there and there is no way the guy would retroactively sean in any 0% band in there. Someone might have made a mistake when setting up the tiers if there is new management or new staff. IF there was a calculation mistake, im confident that while he is there - even if it has to be done manually, he'll do the right thing and then some. I'll stake my retirement fund on it. :)

2. I've myself set up 0 NDPs down to 15% and from 1-5 at 25% probably 18 months ago. When it was affected it was affected on new customers only and not retroactively and when it was applied t was applied to affiliates that were on standard rev share plan and not any custom arrangements. This was communicated to affected affiliates.

Reading the thread I can imagine the changes and silence must be stressful. I have contacts in the biz and I'll find out whats up and make sure someone pokes their head in here and lets you guys know whats happening.

Best, Igs

Bryan, if you could remove my ties with the brands on your sites that would be great. I'd like to keep my account here though, I still <3 the community even if I'm out of the industry until I poke my head in again.
 

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Things are not looking great here.

They haven't paid commissions for February at all stating that they were being 'Audited'. The Affiliate Manager said that payments would be effected in the 'coming days' (this was towards the end of March) and also assured me that it would not be paid with March commissions. Now both Feb and March are due and nothing has been paid.

Made contact today and was told we would be paid in the 'coming days' and that they were still being 'Audited' - They won't commit to any date either. They say that the 'Auditors' must release the funds for them to go on and fund their wallets in order to pay.

To top this off, I noticed that they have removed Big Time Gaming slots from their sites for a few weeks now. They don't even list them as a software provider. Does Any one have any clue whats happening with this group?

Are players even being paid here?

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Things are not looking great here.

They haven't paid commissions for February at all stating that they were being 'Audited'. The Affiliate Manager said that payments would be effected in the 'coming days' (this was towards the end of March) and also assured me that it would not be paid with March commissions. Now both Feb and March are due and nothing has been paid.

Made contact today and was told we would be paid in the 'coming days' and that they were still being 'Audited' - They won't commit to any date either. They say that the 'Auditors' must release the funds for them to go on and fund their wallets in order to pay.

To top this off, I noticed that they have removed Big Time Gaming slots from their sites for a few weeks now. They don't even list them as a software provider. Does Any one have any clue whats happening with this group?

Are players even being paid here?

Nate

I noticed that Danger High Voltage is available at Betat when you search for it, but no Bonanza.

I played there last month and did get paid OK so I don't think there are any concerns there.

My March payment still sits pending, but it is only the 5th April so not too concerned about that for the moment.

Still can't promote them on request of my affiliate manager because of this audit.
 

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There is a also contrary statistics in the account, if you look under 'campaigns' with NDP's and no deposits, or deposits not matching the totals. I'm going to remove them now as a precautionary measure as IMO something is badly amiss here at the moment.
 

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Well, the only response to this thread is from their ex-CEO - trying to put out a fire in lieu of their reps. No one has made a peep either through here or via an email.

I am redirecting their links to their competitors, and their Accreditation status is in jeopardy.
 

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We've just informed them that we will be changing their status due to non-payment of affs, a stats issue and a lack of transparency about regarding who their new owners are. I've already had a couple of sources indicate who they are and if these reports are accurate I'd be far from happy.

If you are an affiliate for BringIt I'd really appreciate you getting in contact - I've already identified the same issue with aff stats with multiple affs. It's been explained away with regard to one affiliate as 'an error when they changed the affs payment plan a few months ago'. However, the other affs have not had a change in payment plan and we're seeing the same patterns emerge.

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