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bet365 casino spamalot jackpot game unplayable

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by jackpot man, Sep 16, 2013.

    Sep 16, 2013
  1. jackpot man

    jackpot man Troll - flaming - PITA

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    my beef here is simply that I have spent nearly £3000 on a game where I have mixed stakes playing on max lines

    The casino at bet365.com have given smallish wins to the account i held which is now on probation for 6 months.

    I believe the spamalot game does not hit jackpots in thier games at all not even a smaller mini jackpot which is supposedly randomised.

    In over 100 jackpot game sequencial jackpot games I have not won any such jackpot ,have played on the site till the cows come home and it just doesnt matter how many times u bring the jackpot game up the result is still the same .Nothing is awarded at the end jackpot game when you reach the top in the spamalot game.It makes you lose no matter which way you turn at all the levels I have played.

    Also in 6 months of playing on the site I hazard at a guess as well the playtech marvel slots dont actually randomly give out jackpot games either because I have played over £1000 worth of credit on the site through these slot games and have never activated the so called "random jackpot game"

    I believe playtech have software that is only geared to benifit their own company for profit making and does not enhance playing on the site to reward players and keep thier bankroll safe and secure ,minor wins yes but gradually you end up losing every single penny on these slot sites.

    I have also sent in a request to the gaming board to have my stats analysed by a third party and have complained vigrously about the genuiness of the actual software games /slots themselves saying they are unfair and run improperly.

    please forward any suggestions ,staff have advised me not to continue on playing on .The jackpots on the bet365 site are fake as far as I can see it and do not pay out on the spamalot game .
     
  2. Sep 16, 2013
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    because you didn't win one, they aren't random? It isn't as though the RNG flips a coin every spin and you've a 50/50 shot of triggering it - you could play a lifetime of slots and never win one, it's just poor luck....random doesn't equal often. The balls that drop in a state lottery are random - how often have you taken the 50 million home? The RNG dips into a 'pool'..it's a VERY LARGE pool - for the sake of the analogy, it's better to think of it as an ocean sometimes.

    Imagine, I place a huge jar of jelly beans on a table and tell you to close your eyes and draw out one of the 100 red jelly beans (mini jackpot) out of the 1,000,000 white jelly beans in it - sure, you've a shot at it, doesn't mean it's likely. In fact, the odds are quite against you.

    Now, imagine, I ask you to draw the ONE blue jellybean (major jackpot) out of those 1,000,000 jelly beans. You could spend lifetimes trying, and NEVER ONCE pull it off. But it's fair - you've a totally random chance of getting it, don't you?
     
  4. Sep 16, 2013
  5. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    hi to be honest 3k on those machines you must be having a laugh , you would have to be realy lucky to hit a jackpot its a drop in the ocean to what goes into that machine or those machines, as for marvel slots again your playing the worst slots in terms of rtp% payout going there just plain crap

    Dont play them at all pointless , go spend 3k on something else , i doubt your get very far on your quest by a third party maybe had you spent as a mininium 30k onwards you could have some good data to back it up , there just is not enough money spent through it to be honest , good luck anyway )
     
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  7. jackpot man

    jackpot man Troll - flaming - PITA

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    I agree with your main point about being cash reservered to play only the 3k or so but still the results speak for themselves.

    Playtech are a fraudulant campaign reaping profits year on year and basically stealing peoples money from these slot machines.
    the company have staff dotted all over the world hosting this that and the other remotely ,marking players is not uncommon.

    The company at bet365 for whom ive been with for over 1 year now ,I have deposited every single week and only had 1 winning run streak in that one day. There is sufficient evidence to suggest they just are a company that dishes out garbage software that has no intention of ever paying out anything at all at any levels. No matter how high stakes you play on the site ,you access the jackpot game on the spamalot and u win nothing.

    The spamalot game as you know takes a long time to activate the jackpot game in itself ,maybe as much as 1000 spins but as soon as you achieve it you get a minor win, once you play the jackpot game you have a series of climbs to the top and every time you play this game nothing happens you just dont win its as simple as that even when you get to the top on the game it blows u up ..

    The only thing that needs blowing up is playtech and its group of affililate scum for putting in false software that in turn makes you spend a small fortune in return for nothing more than play points which in turn are worthless .YOU WIN NOTHING OFF THESE SITES

    I dont blame bet365.com ,this is an intermediary company merely providing sports betting action and uk no1 betting site.
    I blame playtech and thier service hosts who clearly dont use remote access to help players out more often when playing .

    I have also complained to the gaming board and to I.B.A.S but to no avail ,they say the jackpots are legitimate but after seeing my online stats i tottally disagree.

    They dont implement game record data from how many times you have played the jackpot game ,each session is individually assessed ,which means they dont pay out based on previous play or on past data..

    Stupid incompetant jackpots that are null and viod and unaccessable ,I almost laughed when they said about the marvel jackpots let alone the spamalot game. The marvel jackpots have never activated for me the jackpot game in any session in over 1 year of online play.

    I would seriously reccommend that no-one play on these sites ,yes they may be licensed but at the end of the day you are going to lose your money/

    sincerely jackpot man. heck i dont even know why i named myself jackpot man ive never actually won one.!
     
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  9. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Then it's just you, I'm afraid. I WD at Bet365 all the time (and they pay quickly). The winner screenshot thread is littered with wins. I've even won Marvel jackpots.

    The fact that you don't personanlly win, doesn't make it rigged - it makes it sour grapes.

    As to 'at the end of the day, you are going to lose your money'.
    Er, well, yeah . over time, everyone eventually will. House always has the edge. Slots are DESIGNED that way, and if you don't know that going in, you shouldn't play slots.
     
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  10. Sep 16, 2013
  11. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    jackpot . to be frank & honest if you play weekly & dont win , then dont bother playing there its simple , play elsewhere we all go on losing sessions including myself , yer it gets more then frustrating it becomes a pain in the arse , but hey nobody makes you play there , playtech as far as im aware my own playing is ok , i lose & sometimes win , thats part of gambling , if your getting that pi$$ed with it , then its time to knock it on the head & move on or just take some time out from playing then come back try micro gaming or 3 dice or something different ):thumbsup:
     
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  13. jackpot man

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    I must have played the spamalot jackpot game over more than 250 times .

    That means 250 times getting the main jackpot game up .

    result on minor jackpot : lose
    result on major jackpot : lose


    End result with the spamalot jackpot game is that you lose no matter how many times you play it and no matter what the stakes are.

    simple analogy is to prove to the site that the game is flawed by examining the rng between each game / ie smaller and larger jackpot which isnt even there to be won.

    I also state that the companys have the ability to turn on the jackpot game on the marvel slots ,because these such games are not randomised .

    over 1 year playing on every single slot by playtech on the marvel games and I have never ever accessed the jackpot game once.

    They are just impossible to play on given the fact the sites can determine who can win what at any time.

    they are all remote accessed by hosts on the other end who by and large determine who wins and at what times.

    simple fact is playtech have software that you will never ever win any jackpots on. They dont exist at all ,if they did I should have won at least a minor jackpot by now and I have not so im putting it down to fraudulant behaviour by playtech who reap profits by online gaming .

    huge profits by playtech and giving nothing back to playing customers who invest money onto these sites for fun but end up having to redeposit every week without fail and losing every time without even so much as a small minor jackpot on the spamalot game.

    just not science that these games are flawwed its mathmatically impossible to say they are run fairly.!

    statistics can also balance the odds ,bet365 say yes the varience is there and they can hide behind games not paying out because of x and y but at the end of the day they are running a scam in the form of online slots.
     
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  15. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    it just doesnt matter jackpot , the problem is you dont have enough data to claim it , they are just very poor machines rtp% is crud & anyway the game is most annoying , if you was playing high stakes you may well hit one ,these are high stake slots , there was a member here what hit it for 10k @ 50p bet , look in winner section so it does happen , but its like winnning the lottery just go play different machines your be better off )
     
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  17. jackpot man

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    I am an online professional poker player on many sites , playtech who have a history with me also employ house played bots on their network

    I am simply saying that playtech are making huge amounts of profit to suit themselves ,go make figure some major poker results i have had on the playtech network always falling short of any such win.

    They simply dont pay out as far as I can tell as I have been playing online poker with them over 6 years ,
    take the irish open main event for example which i have played for over 10 times now with an ave buy in of $240 a time

    every final of that poker event has ended up with me losing no matter what the equation .,they employ house bots .

    I would say I have been extremely unluckly with bet365 on the major slots ,I even had it out with the staff about these games .

    No matter what I say or provide evidence wise their stance is that these games are run fairly."which is obvs bs!"


    Anyway rant over for today ,had enough emails from sites telling me to deposit to get extra bonus rubbish.

    just fed up with it all regarding all the money ive spent over the years on the playtech network ,. realy hate them for everything ,they dont even respond to complaints and the gibralter gaming commission dont do anything to investigate .

    what can I do? should i give up?
     
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  19. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    you should clearly take a break or just give up .stick with your poker that sounds like your doing better at it , im crap at poker & would love to be half good at it , i would lose less playing poker than i would on slots )
     
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  21. dionysus

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    250 times? That's NOTHING remotely close to a sampling.

    You somewhere think 'random' equates to 'equal' - it doesn't..not even close.

    Each spin you have the chance to win any prize or jackpot the game dishes out (let's ignore stake for the moment)...that's RANDOM

    That doesn't mean you have an EQUAL chance of winning any of the game's prizes.

    Let's pretend I have a game. I'll call it Dionysus' Diamonds.

    Every spin you have the random opportunity to hit 3 10s, 5 diamonds or the jackpot (3 different prizes with different win amounts). I don't control when you hit spin. So you have the random opportunity to hit any one of those wins.

    But..that doesn't mean you have an equal chance of hitting any one those wins..you have to factor in ODDS.

    Each spin you might have a 9/10 chance of hitting nothing, a 1/10 chance of hitting 3 10s, a 1/100 chance of hitting 5 diamonds, and a 1/25,000,000 chance of hitting the jackpot
    (not triggering it mind you, that might be 1/1000..doesn't mean youu'll win it).

    The point is, jackpots don't fall from the sky like manna. They aren't common occurrences. You might never seen them.
    Playing the slot MORE often does NOT increase your odds of winning them (only in the large-scale, broad sense of statistics). The machine doesn't have a memory and go 'well, you've played 1000 times, so your chances or greater now...no - each spin is independent of the previous..ie each new spin puts the odds BACK at 1/25,000,000.

    If you're expecting that jackpots are common, you'll always be disappointed, regardless of where you play.
     
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  23. jackpot man

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    you've played 1000 times, so your chances or greater now...no - each spin is independent of the previous..ie each new spin puts the odds BACK at 1/25,000,000.

    Exactly my point ! this is why u wont win because the games dont set to history logs and file data .this means although the games are random thr actual data being sent is not random.

    You end up losing again and again and again time over time because the odds are the same .the odds are so stacked in thier favour each time its impossible to win at any cost. You simply dont get it with the above post because the majority of all natural slots in realtime have whats called an inbuilt identifier ,take the old fruit machines for example they payed out when near maax full which meant people knew when to play them and at specific times in order to win.

    These new machines and especially ones that dont record data are not just impossible to win on but are giving the same games over and over to the client ,so they recieve the same odds of winning /losing every single time .ie being the latter .Its a non-brainer.

    They should implement slots that record the data from which a client has already payed out on or on players who have played the games triggered on results rather than implement some random reset rubbish,. because long term no- one player will win on the slots and they will only be there for making money and making the site millions .

    I guess you want to control the jackpots then go ahead control at your own trouble, but its all fake ,they manipulated these slot machines nowadays to not pay out the biggest of wins to the customer.

    The rng may be correct and the pays may be correct ,but having the odds stacked against you like that on these slots means you wont win.

    I have a reason to complain as I have a fruit machine of my own with keys and its fully working so I know how its built and run.

    the reason why the sites think its random is because the code is random every spin . Pointless trying to explain to playtech ,they just make millions in profits each year year on year .you just think of that when you look them up financially ..THEY ARE A FRAUD ,and should get investigated.
     
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  25. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    well, it seems pretty simple then - don't play as you're sure it's rigged. Problem solved :thumbsup:
     
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  27. jackpot man

    jackpot man Troll - flaming - PITA

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    is easy for you to judge ,i would not be offended from a canadian they are all mostly idiots from that country.

    all a big feel from canada I get is bolshy /lemon attitude that actually gets no-where with me .

    The trouble I have with canadians is they are really full of it too ,over arrogant ,easily possessive in nature and meaningful to present people with other variations of the truth , bit like the people who believe in the aliens .

    whilst you think im lying about these sites just google playtech company and ask for financial review .

    dont be such a fing dikhead about things , Ive lost some serious money over the years and i certainly didnt need idiots thinking they know better.

    if i wanted some lessons on better lifestyle or advice on bankroll management or cyber-net control gambling ,I would seek the help of such people

    as it is these sites pretend to hide behind "excessive gambling" which in turn means only 1 thing . LYING CHEATING SCUM.

    all in all these sites do to work for is MONEY plain and simple , Cant you get that through your thick heads.?
     
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  29. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Ah, I can see you're going to be incredibly popular here, especially with our MANY Canadian members
     
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  31. jackpot man

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    Is that to go with the many "jackpots" won by playing online slots at playtech casinos? errr i meant randomly?


    Get a grip would ya .They have had a lot of complaints about these issues in the past and the only result is that the sites win in the long run.

    Casino-meister is there to protect the community of rogue sites that dont pay out to customers. I am one of those customers.
     
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  33. maxd

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    :clap: Hi, my name is Max and I'm a Canadian. Defo one of those bolshy folks you mentioned and boy, I LOVE lemons. And, as it happens, I'm also a moderator here meaning I have the distinct pleasure of banning your ass for being "Dick Of The Week". [strike]Please take this little vacation as an opportunity to learn to be less of a doofus.[/strike] Bye. :poke:
     
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  35. dunover

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    Gold foil hat plus antenna on its way to you. As you are an undisputed bell-end.
     
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  37. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    bet365 casino spamalot jackpot game unplayable: Cat-With-Tin-Foil-Hat-16407434984.jpeg,Sep 16, 2013
     
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  39. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    sorry i missed all that i second dunovers comment ):lolup:
     

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