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Best place to play Pai Gow???

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Dreamer, Feb 24, 2005.

    Feb 24, 2005
  1. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Hi!
    My first message... I have been betting on sports for a long time, breaking even or losing. I also am a beginner at hold 'em and have been holding my own. Anyway, I saw a tv show about making money online playing blackjack, using 100% match bonuses. They made it seem so easy, and I believed them as I have had luck in the past playing blackjack and know basic strategy.
    So, I signed up at PlanetLuck and profited $63 for a few hours of "work"! Best work I've had so far. However, I then went to Starluck and proceeded to lose my entire bonus and then some and still haven't met the wagering requirement! I also opened an account at InterCasino and cashed out almost as much as I deposited. Since they offer this bonus every month, I am looking forward to March. I love all the games they have to offer and got hooked on Pai Gow poker. When I played Pai Gow at Starluck, I lost EVERY single hand... Hmmmm.... I am not doing well at Starluck.

    So, to make a short story long, my question is:
    Where are the best places to play Pai Gow poker, not tiles? I am looking for a match bonus that can be used on Pai Gow. I have read through a lot of the bonus offers here and a lot of them seem to for slot players....
    Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I am really in need of some extra cash and have plenty of time on my hands. I would also be willing to play blackjack for the bonus. Does this stuff really work? Can you make money playing these games at online casinos????
    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Feb 24, 2005
  3. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Yes, this stuff does really work.

    No, you shouldn't be doing this if you're "really in need of some extra cash" and can't afford to lose what you're betting. If you can afford to lose your bankroll, by all means, keep on keeping on.

    PM me for a Forum site I work at concerning blackjack and bonuses. I'm not going to advertise publicly for them out of respect to Bryan and his great work here.
     
  4. Feb 24, 2005
  5. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Thanks!
    I have read some blackjack "whoring" sites, but I always seem to lose online. I can't understand it, if these sites are reputable and I am using good strategy. That is how I went from bj to pai gow... I have been doing well at InterCasino at pai gow, but forget about Starluck...

    I was just looking at Sands of the Carribean, they offer pai gow, $50 match bonus, but you have to wager $2,000 and pai gow pushes don't count. Not sure if this is a good idea or not... This stuff is all new to me...
     
  6. Feb 24, 2005
  7. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Losing happens, even though you may play at a reputable site and use perfect strategy all the time. When the house always has an edge, it's why it's called gambling.

    Yet again, for the cheap seats ... only gamble with what you can afford to lose! (I think I'm gonna make up some T-shirts with this ... :p )
     
  8. Feb 24, 2005
  9. dickens1298

    dickens1298 Dormant account

    Location:
    LA, California
    If you're looking for sites with recurring bonuses, there are - aside from Intercasino - also William Hill and Omni (both use the same software as Intercasino).

    Omni's bonus is rather interesting. You have to wager $4000 before you receive $100. Despite the implied 40X, there are no restrictions as to withdrawals - in other words, your money isn't "captive" until you reach $4000. You could literally deposit and withdraw, deposit and withdraw...in the meantime, you will still be earning loyalty points, and that $4000 amount can be reached rather quickly.
     
  10. Feb 24, 2005
  11. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Microgaming - Maple casino

    Playtech - Mapau and Fortune

    They all accept Pai gow poker as WRs and there never were problems with being paid. However,as with most playtech casinos,the bonuses are non-cashable for Mapau and Fortune.
     
  12. Feb 24, 2005
  13. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Dickens,
    Thanks for the info. I e-mailed William Hill over a week ago and never heard back from them. I wasn't able to find a good deposit method and was looking for help. I will check out Omni, that bonus structure sounds interesting... I really like the software at InterCasino, not to mention all the various games they offer....

    Chuchu,
    Thanks for the tips. I have never heard of bonuses being non-cashable. Does that mean if I deposit $100, I can't cash out more than $100???? I'm confused. I guess I will have to read the terms and conditions... They can be a real pain in the a$$!
     
  14. Feb 24, 2005
  15. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Bad idea! (No pushes??) Forget it!

    Sounds to me like you really need to do a bit of serious T&C's reading & understanding homework before you go plunging in!
    I also prefer PiaGow over Blackjack, which always seems to take the fricking P online! :(

    You've already found the best - Intercasino. Next try the other Crypto sites. If you're interested, I can also give you a list of ALL the MG's that allow PG for WR if you like...

    Good luck,
    KK
     
  16. Feb 24, 2005
  17. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    KK,
    Yeah, I definitely hesitated when they said pushes don't count towards the WR. That was in online chat, not listed in the T&C's..... Hmmmm, think I will look elsewhere.

    I take it you are finding Pai Gow to be more profitable than BJ???? I haven't played enough of it to get a good enough feel yet as far as profitability goes. I know there are larger swings in my bankroll as I usually only play $1-2 per hand in bj, while pai gow usually requires a $5 minimum.

    I would not suggest playing pai gow at Starluck, I lost about 10 hands in a row, without one push or win!

    If you would like to send along the list, feel free to PM me.
    Thanks!
     
  18. Feb 24, 2005
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    I would not suggest playing ANYTHING at Starluck.
    I joined up a couple of years ago, and blacklisted them immediately after getting severely ripped off by their crooked software within the first few minutes!

    I'll post the list tonight when I get home. (At work right now :( )
     
  20. Feb 24, 2005
  21. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    There's the 'Poker Players' bonus at the fantastic 32RED too!

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Not really understanding the game, I don't know how that compares with the other bonuses, but it seems pretty good to these untrained eyes! More importantly, you will of course enjoy the quality of customer service and rapid payouts we all experience at 32RED!
     
  22. Feb 24, 2005
  23. dickens1298

    dickens1298 Dormant account

    Location:
    LA, California
    One of the first things I would do is open a Neteller account, and sign up for Instacash. You can use Neteller with just about every casino, including William Hill - and it's free. Don't hold your breath about hearing from Hill - their CS is notoriously horrible.

    BTW, when you withdraw from a casino that you had used a Neteller deposit with, try to withdraw via Citadel (you should sign up for their complimentary service too). The reason is that if you withdraw via Neteller, Neteller holds the funds for about a business week until your deposited funds (your first transaction) "clears". You may use these funds to deposit at another casino, but you may not withdraw it as cash. If you used Citadel, however, your funds will generally be in your bank account in about 2-3 business days.
     
  24. Feb 24, 2005
  25. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Dreamer,

    Non-cashable bonuses are just that. They cannot be cashed out but they increase the size of your initial bankroll and you can win cashable money with their bonuses. Suppose you deposited $100 and got a bonus of $100,you start off with $200 and if you play paikow poker you can bet big ie $50 a hand and can meet WRs faster. When you are done with the WRs,you can cash out your remaining balance less the $100 bonus. The beauty of it is that you can still use the bonus to continue to generate winnings. If you win,you cash more out. If you lose,it doesnt affect your earlier withdrawal.
     
  26. Feb 24, 2005
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    MG's with PG in WR

    Dreamer,
    These were the MG's that allowed PG in WR in October 2004. (With bonus % offered at that time)
    I haven't checked them since, so you'd better read the T&C's before depositing!

    Cinema Casino 250%
    Maple Casino 200%
    Trident Lounge (TL) 200%
    777 Dragon Casino 200%
    Royal Vegas (FR) 200%
    Sun Vegas Casino 150%
    Ruby Fortune Casino 125%
    Lucky Emperor (CR) 100%
    Colosseum Casino 100%
    Spin Palace Casino 100%
    7 Sultans Casino (FR) 100%
    Yukon Gold (CR) 100%
    UK Casino Club 100%
    Royal Plaza Casino 100%
    Aztec Riches Casino 100%
    Golden Tiger (CR) 50%
    32 Red 50%
    Virtual City (CR) 40%
    Zodiac Casino (CR) 40%

    Note: You can only claim bonus at one CR site!

    Please let us know how you get on!
    KK.
     
  28. Feb 24, 2005
  29. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    KK,
    Thanks for the list. I will check them out. As far as Starluck goes, I was lucky to be able to cash out my initial deposit. The only way I was able to get back to even, is to answer all their surveys and convert those points into cash. Aaarrggh! I will not be playing there anytime soon....

    Chuchu,
    Thanks for the info... I am going to stay away from the stickies until I run out of other options. I am on a limited budget and getting large makes me really nervous...

    Dickens,
    As far as Neteller goes, I had an issue with them, so I have stayed away from them. I opened an account with them WAY back, before they had InstaCash, but never used their services. Years later, when I tried to use InstaCash, they said I could not use it until I went through their original deposit process as those were the terms when I signed up. The reason I never used them and still don't, is that they take so long... I haven't had any problems using other services, most of which are free and instantaneous.... I will check out Citadel.
    William Hill is making me a bit nervous, too... Bad CS is not a good sign, but I will check them out further before I rule them out completely as they seem to be a good casino.

    Slotster!,
    I am checking out 32red now, thanks bunches!

    :)
     
  30. Feb 24, 2005
  31. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Though Will Hill does have bad CS, I will say I have never had a problem with withdrawing from them and I've been playing there for almost a year.
     
  32. Feb 24, 2005
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    I've been with them 4-years and never had a problem. I've never really desperately needed their CS - so not a problem.
    WH is my second favorite casino behind Intercasino and their bonus is still one of the best, even though it is only $40 per month.
    You can also play PaiGow, 3-card and Stud there from only $1 per hand! :thumbsup:
     
  34. Feb 25, 2005
  35. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Hmmm, I am on the William Hill site now, and it looks like the WR must be completed in February in order to get the bonus for this month. Since it will take longer than that to get my Neteller account up and running, I won't be able to use that method.... No CS isn't helpful in trying to get a payment to them... They list Quick Cash as a payment option, but I believe that is only good in the UK. Aaaarrggghh! It looks like Maple is getting my money...

    Anyone have experience with Maple?
     
  36. Feb 25, 2005
  37. dickens1298

    dickens1298 Dormant account

    Location:
    LA, California
    There's always next month, Dreamer. :) Not sure what the exact problems are with Neteller, but I'd clear them straightaway - as far as I know, it's one of the fastest and most-generally accepted methods anywhere.

    Needless to say, be sure to hit those casinos with recurring monthly bonuses. William Hill, Intercasino, Omni, et al. All three happen to have a loyalty reward system and are all Cryptos.
     
  38. Feb 25, 2005
  39. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Dickens,
    Well, Casino on Net got my money! I'm definitely liking it, so far. $200 deposit, $200 match bonus and $25 from refer a friend.... They took an e-check through Citadel.
    Pai Gow has been better to me than blackjack, I even played a few hands of baccarat, not sure if that counts though....

    Anyway, Neteller is telling me that I have to do an EFT before I can do InstaCash. It is going to take a week or so.... So, next month it will have to be on these other three....

    My question now is: Are there any fees associated with using Neteller with these books (William Hill, Omni and Inter)? I used FirePay with Inter and paid $3.99 to deposit my $90 and then another $1 to withdraw. I hate paying fees! Not to mention that I hate waiting. I like having a couple casinos up and running at the same time and waiting for money to come through can put a crimp in the budget! Yeah, I told ya, I don't have a lot of cash, unfortunately. But, if I keep making profits at these places, that will change soon. The best, cheapest and fastest way to get the money in and out is what I need to find out for next month.

    I can get the EFT for the minimum of $15 going now through Neteller, so they can check out my bank account. Then, I will be ready for March!

    :)
     

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