Beating Sticky Bonuses

chop-choi

Dormant account
I read that the way to beat a sticky bonus is to wager your deposit and the bonus all at one time. Like, if you get a $200 bonus on a $200 deposit, you bet $400, and if you win, you're up $400, and if you loose, you're only down $200. If anyone has tried this, how has it worked? Also, does anyone know of a less riskier way to beat sticky bonuses?
 

Ping

Dormant account
I think the problem is will you be able to withdraw your winnings of $400 after you win the "all the way" bet?

I guess you still need to satisfy 20x or so wagering requirement? :eek:




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chop-choi

Dormant account
Many sites with sticky bonuses have much lower WR's. For example, aspinalls offers a 200% sticky bonus of up to $200 with a 4x WR.

So, lets say I buy in for $100, get a $200 bonus, and bet it on one hand. If I lose, I'm out $100. If I win, I'm up $300, and only have to wager $900 more before cash out, which can be done at the table minimum.
 

realwtfsup

Experienced Member
hmm wondering if trying a system would be better for a sticky bonus. For $200 bet $30 if lose bet $60 if lose bet the rest.
 

GrandMaster

Ueber Meister
CAG
If it is a sticky (not phantom), there is no need to be so aggressively. It increases your EV slightly at the expense of a vastly increased variance, which is bad for your bankroll.

I would recommend that you play normally until you meet the WR, unless you lose your deposit, in which case you should play aggressively until you get back above the level of the bonus. Once you meet the WR, withdraw your money. Now you are playing with the bonus. If the minimum withdrawal is $25, then bet $25 on BJ, or baccarat or roulette if allowed. If you win, withdraw $25 and repeat, if not, double your bet until you either win or bust out.
 

Vesuvio

Dormant account
GrandMaster said:
Once you meet the WR, withdraw your money. Now you are playing with the bonus.
Generally agree with trying to meet the wr first, but careful! At most casinos with sticky bonuses if you withdraw your money the bonus will be removed from the account. Phoenician & the Sunny Group of casinos are exceptions.
 

GrandMaster

Ueber Meister
CAG
Sticky means that you cannot withdraw it only your winnings, but it stays in your account until you lose it. If it is removed from your account when you cash in, then it is a phantom bonus.
 

sw2003

Dormant account
GrandMaster said:
Sticky means that you cannot withdraw it only your winnings, but it stays in your account until you lose it. If it is removed from your account when you cash in, then it is a phantom bonus.
Unfortunately there is no consensus on the definition of sticky and/or phantom bonus. One site use one set of definitions which might/might not be the same as that from the next site.
 

realwtfsup

Experienced Member
Just sugned up for my first RTG casino. Doing the Casinomeister special at the Phoenician.

I think the playthough for this bonus may be 10x WR instead of the normal 8x I seen on there page. May be becuase I am playing blackjack.

I will try the dividing the bonus by seven. Then betting in this pattern. 1/7 lose then bet 2/7 lose then bet 4/7. Cashing out after each win.

That is if I do not tilt and blow it all.
 
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