WARNING BC.Game, lots of complaints but no resolutions

[Avernite]

Played there a couple of weeks ago and took out low 4 figures without issue.

Closed the account upon reading this though, hope everyone else currently there gets there cash on the way out the door!

 

[satchnz]

They are bankrupt and still operating the site, what a shame

If they have truly gone bankrupt and rogue then that is a shame. I’ve just withdrawn an approx $35 balance in LTC I had there (grinding DOA2) plus converted approx $35 in rewards of their BCD coin (which I just converted to LTC). The LTC withdrawal is now safely in my local wallet. Another of my crypto regulars just struck off my list

 

[maxd]

IMHO we all might want to wait a bit before assuming the “bankruptcy” thing is for real. I have no love of BC.Game — based on our experience with them thus far — but I also remember Curaçao trying this ‘they’re bankrupt!” thing in the past when suddenly there was no bankruptcy a few days later. I have no details on that one but it did look a lot like a situation where one party was trying to pressure the other. Just saying we might want to wait and see if that isn’t the case here too.

- Max

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Degsy and Dazza must have started playing there.

 

[Betreels Casino & Sports]

Word on the street is they do 150,000 FTDs per month and average $300,000,000 in deposits. They also sponsored Leicester City for $40 Million back in July. Not to forget sponsorships with Jason Derulo, Lil Pump, Cloud9.

Don't think they are broke. Just too big to care IMHO.

As for the change in companies ("ownership"): This could have been done to secure a UKGC license which they could not get in the past.

BC.Game have replied with an official statement:

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[Guntis]

Yeah, they wrote everywhere yesterday, and believe Curacao failed to consider key facts adequately, and that they'll appeal the decision:

mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-city-gambling-sponsor-statement-34160776

gamblinginsider.com/news/27534/bcgame-responds-after-reports-that-company-was-declared-bankrupt

 

[L&L-Jan]

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Page 4:

" Het Hof. vernietigt het vonnis van het Gerecht van 4 oktober 2024 en doet opnieuw recht als volgt verklaart Blockdance in staat van faillissement; "

English:

"The Court. annuls the judgment of the General Court of 4 October 2024 and renders a new judgment as follows: declares Blockdance bankrupt; "

Thats the status now. But if they do so many ftd's and ggr, why not simply pay those players through SGBOK and move on.

 

[justdoit]

looks like BC casino dont care about bankrupt, they got another big streamer on deal

 

[jasonuk]

That's a real shame to see Paul fall further and further from grace. It's concerning in the comments that some of the viewers are asking why he has to travel to do this, and isn't copying (list of other affiliate streamers) who are promoting unregulated sites to a UK audience from the UK - which is potentially a criminal offense.

Once again... if the UKGC wants a free win, those streamers are an easy target right now...

He even eludes in the comments that he'll play with his own money but take the bonuses when they come - so at this point assume it's all bonus funds (or fearing the worst, monopoly money).

 

[justdoit]

That's a real shame to see Paul fall further and further from grace. It's concerning in the comments that some of the viewers are asking why he has to travel to do this, and isn't copying (list of other affiliate streamers) who are promoting unregulated sites to a UK audience from the UK - which is potentially a criminal offense.

Once again... if the UKGC wants a free win, those streamers are an easy target right now...

He even eludes in the comments that he'll play with his own money but take the bonuses when they come - so at this point assume it's all bonus funds (or fearing the worst, monopoly money).

he streams from Channel Islands not UK, they pay to play on BC, I dont thing Paul plays on fake money, he just get paid to advertise casino, UKGC they let BC to support UK football club for $40m

 

[jasonuk]

he streams from Channel Islands not UK, they pay to play on BC, I dont thing Paul plays on fake money, he just get paid to advertise casino,

Nothing there disagrees with what I said, I mentioned the comments naming other streamers that were (allegedly) streaming from the UK - Paul has always made a point of following that rule because he doesn't want the potential legal repercussions.

While having a quick look at TGC, a reminder of how much great work they did for charity in 2018-2021 with 21Casino... must be in the ballpark of £100k of donations.

UKGC they let BC to support UK football club for $40m

The white label stuff makes this messy...

In the case of BC - there are two entities, BC.game (which is unlicensed, a CGCB-licensed site cannot accept UK players) and BCgame.uk (which has a white label license from TGP Europe Ltd, as we've discussed before).

One of the annoyances here is that they are permitted to use their international branding for a UK-based license - so the shirts have "BC.game" (the logo of the bcgame.uk site, which happens to be the same as the name and logo of the crypto site) instead of "BCgame.uk". It's shaky ground but there may be enough grey area that the UKGC declines to intervene.

As far as the UK-based streamers go, there is no such grey area - they are not promoting the UK site (which offers pragmatic and two no-name providers) but the crypto site (which has the full range). Even when they are "streaming from Ireland", if their business is registered in the UK then the same problem applies - it's up to the UKGC (or even the CGCB now) to enforce it though.

It's a way to cheat the system, and because nobody wanted to take a stand it allowed the lines to blur further and further - such that a problematic and potentially bankrupt crypto casino can be advertising to UK players which cannot play there.

 

[justdoit]

Nothing there disagrees with what I said, I mentioned the comments naming other streamers that were (allegedly) streaming from the UK - Paul has always made a point of following that rule because he doesn't want the potential legal repercussions.

While having a quick look at TGC, a reminder of how much great work they did for charity in 2018-2021 with 21Casino... must be in the ballpark of £100k of donations.


The white label stuff makes this messy...

In the case of BC - there are two entities, BC.game (which is unlicensed, a CGCB-licensed site cannot accept UK players) and BCgame.uk (which has a white label license from TGP Europe Ltd, as we've discussed before).

One of the annoyances here is that they are permitted to use their international branding for a UK-based license - so the shirts have "BC.game" (the logo of the bcgame.uk site, which happens to be the same as the name and logo of the crypto site) instead of "BCgame.uk". It's shaky ground but there may be enough grey area that the UKGC declines to intervene.

As far as the UK-based streamers go, there is no such grey area - they are not promoting the UK site (which offers pragmatic and two no-name providers) but the crypto site (which has the full range). Even when they are "streaming from Ireland", if their business is registered in the UK then the same problem applies - it's up to the UKGC (or even the CGCB now) to enforce it though.

It's a way to cheat the system, and because nobody wanted to take a stand it allowed the lines to blur further and further - such that a problematic and potentially bankrupt crypto casino can be advertising to UK players which cannot play there.

if you go to his forum from UK ip you dont see any crypto casino, only UK casino, on his stream he never post a link of any casino, he only show the name of casino his playing, well UKGC rules only appley in UK not in GB, same with Tax cheat, you can register your self on Channel Islands and work from UK and pay 0 tax

 

[jasonuk]

if you go to his forum from UK ip you dont see any crypto casino, only UK casino, on his stream he never post a link of any casino, he only show the name of casino his playing, well UKGC rules only appley in UK not in GB, same with Tax cheat, you can register your self on Channel Islands and work from UK and pay 0 tax

Actually it would be the opposite - they apply to GB and not the UK - because Northern Ireland have their own regime for gambling legislation. You are still correct that the Channel Islands are a separate jurisdiction and not under the UKGC remit though.

[screenshot] "For the avoidance of doubt, it is not an offence for a UK citizen to gamble with a foreign operator, even if that operator is not licensed under the UK regime."

Ah, this old chestnut. Trotted out by many a monopoly money streamer to pretend what they are doing is legal, by intentionally blurring the lines between the player and their company.

What somebody can do in a personal capacity doesn't necessarily extend to a professional capacity - because for the above scenario you would have a UK-based business (the streaming company, operated by said streamer) promoting unlicensed (both in the context of UKGC, and in the context of CGCB) gambling to UK-based players.

Even if the grey market scenario still existed (e.g. Anjouan or Costa Rica), it would be a business potentially breaching the Gambling Act.

The real question is why a streamer (whether UK-based or not) is promoting a site to UK players that cannot accept UK players... that seems like a very worrying trap in the making.

 

[jasonuk]

As a related tangent, if you want to see how it plays out - Sorare (the NFT trading card game) was

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- to which they pleaded Not Guilty, and the case will be heard in 2025.

A $4bn market cap company, lots of celebrity endorsements and investors, but clearly trying to skirt the line between free to play game, free prize draw contest, and regulated gambling product - as many video games have been doing in recent years with lootboxes and trading cards.

When a trading card game is valued in the billions, there's more going on...

 

[Guntis]

The white label stuff makes this messy...

In the case of BC - there are two entities, BC.game (which is unlicensed, a CGCB-licensed site cannot accept UK players) and BCgame.uk (which has a white label license from TGP Europe Ltd, as we've discussed before).

A pretty shady that TGP Europe is - according to

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and

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tgpeurope.com/partners/

Josimar has found new evidence which shows that TGP, the Isle of Man company which provides UK gambling licences to Asian betting partners of a number of Premier League clubs, is intimately linked with the Suncity Group of Alvin Chau, the suspected triad member who was recently jailed for 18 years for fraud and gambling offences in China.

Plenty was also published

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on Josimar's website today, including a detail that BC wants a new paper in Vanuatu...

and what makes Vanuatu attractive for casinos like BC, according to the article, is that they're very quick, cheap, don't make the licensee list public, and make it nearly impossible to pursue financial claims there, lol

 

[L&L-Jan]

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If that regulator is on it, that says something.

 

[maxd]

Every time I see “Vanuatu” I read “Zanadu” which is where the license might as well be.

“Vanuatu, Vanuatu,
Does the same as the others do,
Spin a tale, full of poo,
Sends the player 'round the ‘loo.
Vanuatu: ain’t no help to neither me nor you."

It’s been one of those afternoons.

- Max

 

[jasonuk]

I was reminded of something else... perhaps BC.game have won tonight's star prize...

 

[dunover]

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If that regulator is on it, that says something.

Like Huw Edwards banning Gary Glitter from being on the BBC.

 

[mulven]

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If that regulator is on it, that says something.

Curacao Revoke 2: Electric Boogaloo.

I think they saw this coming as a company registered the domain bckm.top with Anjouan Gaming two months ago. BC.Game use tons of different mirror urls and this appears to be another one but this time its Anjouan Licenced. I expect they'll try to do business as usual with this but hopefully people will avoid them after all the kerfuffle.

b2c

Twocent Technology Limited

ALSI-202410011-FI1

October 1, 2025

309 days

bckm.top

 

[Guntis]

Why do they bother with those licenses at all if they work everywhere without them anyway? Even on these local TLDs:

bcgame.nz

bcgame.sk

Anyone with a BC Game account can log in and play on any of these websites with the difference that both of them are not registered with the regulators.

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My VIP manager of level 43, pictured below, calls me honey and darling all the time

But does not want to close my account when i say that i don't need it anymore. lol

 

[jasonuk]

Why do they bother with those licenses at all if they work everywhere without them anyway? Even on these local TLDs:

I fear that is the part they are realising, why worry about a license when you can recruit a bunch of ethics-free streamers or affiliates to promote your unlicensed shithole instead...

It's not your usual style of financial fraud or crypto rugpull (scam), but it'll have a similar outcome when it happens...

 

[Guntis]

I fear that is the part they are realising, why worry about a license when you can recruit a bunch of ethics-free streamers or affiliates to promote your unlicensed shithole instead...

It's not your usual style of financial fraud or crypto rugpull (scam), but it'll have a similar outcome when it happens...

One reason for having a license i guess would be to simply look better when sponsoring clubs like Leicester or similar things. Otherwise, people can start writing stuff like "hey that casino without a gaming license anywhere sponsors this and that, etc."

 

[kou187]

He's clearly running low on funds and has decided to join the other tossers on promoting B.C game to UK players. Click my links!! blah blah blah its all about money money money. he hasnt missed any of you guys that comment in his streams. He needs the money, else why else would he return out of nowere with B.C game links. Just makes me laugh how dumb and naïve people really are that watch this shit.

 

[jasonuk]

One reason for having a license i guess would be to simply look better when sponsoring clubs like Leicester or similar things. Otherwise, people can start writing stuff like "hey that casino without a gaming license anywhere sponsors this and that, etc."

It's also how they get the software, it used to be a "good" license (hence why Curacao casinos had their in-house stuff or pirated versions) but now-a-days it seems to be any license...

The providers took the high ground initially, until I guess they saw what the less reputable providers were making from offering their games to Curacao, and suddenly the money mattered more.

So if some random country wants to invent a gambling regulator with no experience and no oversight, guess what's they're doing... and that's a worrying future ahead. Review sites should be zero-rating Costa Rica and Anjouan licenses at this point, I doubt they will though...