auto spin software

[darrenapple]

Hi guys,

What's the best auto spin software out there? I have been trying to install spin4profilt.com for ages but can't get it to work. I wondered if there's any others worth checking out. I also found that da-vinci-roulette.com goes to a dead page once you fill out your details so that's no good either.

 

[KasinoKing]

Do you realise that:
1. The use of ANY sort of external "bot" for online casino play is strictly prohibited, so even if you did win, you have VERY big risk of getting your winnings confiscated.
2. You can NOT beat Roulette with any system ever invented.
3. You can NOT beat Roulette.
4. You can't beat Roulette.
5. You can not beat ANY casino game with a fixed house edge, long-term (including games like Roulette, for example).

Good luck (is the only thing you need!)
KK

 

[Jono777]

..... and there was me gonna start on a thread on successful Money laundering tips, oh well......

 

[cpdnd31]

I just love a good laugh in the morning --

 

[daenyboi]

TS: Have you tried the ... Wineveryspin.africa cheat client? LMAO! Google it its awesome

 

[Casinomeister]

I know you read this, right?

1.12 - Postings that incite fraudulent player activity are not welcome and will probably be deleted. Members who encourage fraud will probably be kicked to the curb.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/forum-rules/

 

[darrenapple]

Do you realise that:
1. The use of ANY sort of external "bot" for online casino play is strictly prohibited, so even if you did win, you have VERY big risk of getting your winnings confiscated.
2. You can NOT beat Roulette with any system ever invented.
3. You can NOT beat Roulette.
4. You can't beat Roulette.
5. You can not beat ANY casino game with a fixed house edge, long-term (including games like Roulette, for example).

Good luck (is the only thing you need!)
KK

Did you say that I CAN'T win on auto-pilot?!!! Haha, I know that but I didn't know that the autospin was banned.

Have you guys noticed something odd here, we are told that there is no winning system (which is true) and yet casinos have banned the autobots. Why?! Also, this forum points out that "Postings that incite fraudulent player activity are not welcome". Again, if an autobot is a useless tool, then the fraud committed is what exactly?

Not wanting to cause a stir, just seems contradictory to me. I want the bot for an academic project aimed at showing it's impossible to beat the house edge. I'm not a gambler.

 

[Fjellsame]

Last time i checked, money laundry was illegal...

 

[KasinoKing]

I want the bot for an academic project aimed at showing it's impossible to beat the house edge. I'm not a gambler.

You don't need a bot to prove that - just simple mathematics!
There are 37 slots in a standard European Roulette wheel - which all return 36 chips for each 1 chip bet (pro-rata depending on where the chips are placed)
36/37 = 97.297% RTP
Or in other words, a House Edge of 2.703%

Every bet of every spin is exposed to this 2.703% house edge, no matter where, when or how many chips are bet, and there's NOTHING you can do to avoid it.
That is why roulette can not be beaten - end of story.

KK

 

[Jono777]

When I worked in B&M casino myself and the managers would sit and chuckle when the 'Beat the system' players used to come on to the tables.

It was amazing the amount of 'customers' who would come with 'systems' pages and pages of notes etc. Sit and watch endless spins before they attempted to 'strike'.

Despite explaining what KK explains as clear as glass, they would still try and argue the point????

We even had 'novices' who would place £10 bets on say black or red and their 'friend' (who they kept secret when playing/made out they didn't know each other) would bet the opposite with the idea of splitting their 'none existent' 'profits' - Used to beg 'zero' every spin those days

 

[JackTenOff]

Have you guys noticed something odd here, we are told that there is no winning system (which is true) and yet casinos have banned the autobots. Why?! Also, this forum points out that "Postings that incite fraudulent player activity are not welcome". Again, if an autobot is a useless tool, then the fraud committed is what exactly?

The same reason they have other predatory terms, they want an excuse not to payout if you win big.

 

[darrenapple]

Last time i checked, money laundry was illegal...

Do you actually know what money laundry is? I think by your comment you probably don't.

 

[darrenapple]

You don't need a bot to prove that - just simple mathematics!
There are 37 slots in a standard European Roulette wheel - which all return 36 chips for each 1 chip bet (pro-rata depending on where the chips are placed)
36/37 = 97.297% RTP
Or in other words, a House Edge of 2.703%

Every bet of every spin is exposed to this 2.703% house edge, no matter where, when or how many chips are bet, and there's NOTHING you can do to avoid it.
That is why roulette can not be beaten - end of story.

KK

Absolutely, very easy to prove with maths. My paper for Uni is going to show that "even with a bot" spinning 1,000,000 there's no way to win. Therefore, for this exercise I need a bot. I know that's counter intuitive because maths would do just as well but maths is very hard when you have bets which are dependent on the previous number outcome.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Absolutely, very easy to prove with maths. My paper for Uni is going to show that "even with a bot" spinning 1,000,000 there's no way to win. Therefore, for this exercise I need a bot. I know that's counter intuitive because maths would do just as well but maths is very hard when you have bets which are dependent on the previous number outcome.

But that should be obvious anyway. A bot is a program. Written by a human being. No matter which way you spin it, all code gets converted into machine language. Which is basically a load of numbers. No computer can break the rules of mathematics for you. Unless you input false information to achieve the desired result of course. A bot won't fail because it can't do it. It will fail because it's mathematically impossible.

Also, can you explain what bets are dependent on the previous bet outcome? I'm intrigued. The game is truly random. The odds of any outcome being achieved are the same on every spin. The outcome does not depend on the previous results because the game has no memory of these events and doesn't require to because the house edge exists to achieve profit. It's like the stock market. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. What happened 10, 100 or 100000000 spins ago makes no difference to the outcome at all. You don't need a bit to know that the game can't be beaten. You just need to look at the table.

 

[darrenapple]

But that should be obvious anyway. A bot is a program. Written by a human being. No matter which way you spin it, all code gets converted into machine language. Which is basically a load of numbers. No computer can break the rules of mathematics for you. Unless you input false information to achieve the desired result of course. A bot won't fail because it can't do it. It will fail because it's mathematically impossible.

Also, can you explain what bets are dependent on the previous bet outcome? I'm intrigued. The game is truly random. The odds of any outcome being achieved are the same on every spin. The outcome does not depend on the previous results because the game has no memory of these events and doesn't require to because the house edge exists to achieve profit. It's like the stock market. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. What happened 10, 100 or 100000000 spins ago makes no difference to the outcome at all. You don't need a bit to know that the game can't be beaten. You just need to look at the table.

I think I'm being misunderstood. Let me explain. If I placed a chip on the first dozen, then if it failed to come in I (rather randomly) placed two chips on red, then if that failed to come in I placed (again randomly) 9 chips on 1,2,5,7,6,5 - can you tell me how often I would win over 1m spins?

I'm afraid advanced mathematics is painstaking. A bot makes it easy

Guys - I don't play roulette because there are 37 numbers and odds pay at 35-1. There's no need to convince me that I can't win, I know this! I have also posted in maths forums but I thought you chaps might be able to help also. It's not an important thing so if I can't find a bot I don't really care, I was just asking

Thanks for your thoughts though.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Deleted. I've just confused myself now... Sorry!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Microgaming has a "bot" built into the download client. It is called "expert mode", and for Blackjack is user programmable to some extent. For Roulette, you can autoplay the same bet a number of times, and for slots you can spin the same stake a set number of times.

Microgaming knows none of this can allow a player to beat the house, but casino operators have also been sucked into the false belief that somewhere out there someone will create a bot that CAN beat one of their games by overcoming the randomness of their RNG. The terms outlawing bots usually stem from this fear that "systems MIGHT work", and also provide a convenient get out clause if a player gets rather too lucky. Often a player can be accused of using a bot purely because they have won more than the casino deems acceptable, and the terms do not require any proof, just that it is "deemed by the casino" that some form of cheating took place.

Those that sell systems play on this, and will often say that if their systems didn't work, why would operators ban their use.

The one place where you can freely experiment with a bot in real money mode is Galewind, their CEO understands that nothing you can come up with is going to beat their RNG and the natural house edge of any of their games. They will not confiscate winnings because you "used a system/bot". Unfortunately, finding a Galewind powered casino isn't going to be easy, although one is likely to be launched soon. There was one some years ago, but after it confiscated a player's Blackjack winnings for "use of a system to beat the RNG" it found itself to be a casino without any software after Galewind shut it out for bringing the reputation of their software into question by suggesting that it wasn't random enough not to be beaten by a system.

Apart from this, demo mode or "fun mode" should suffice, and there are no real money winnings or play to be voided. The Microgaming download client is quite good for this kind of experiment, both for it's internal "expert mode" or an external bot. The worst that can happen is that the experiment will be shut down early if it causes server problems for other players.

 

[michielm1]

what i think could get you a slight edge, is getting to know the way of the casino employee (who repeats the same movement with the spin and release of the ball 1000's and 1000's of times) . but that would only be possible (if possible at all) in land based casino's

 

[Jono777]

Sorry to disappoint but it doesn't work either

I worked in B&M casino 5 years, dealer, inspector, Pit Boss and brief stint as a 'relief' manager.

As Inspectors in the main over the weeks/months/years I'd observe and physically done millions of spins.

No patterns, No system, No way of predicting anything.

Only 3 'mad' instances I can recall in those 5 years.

1) At start of shift the ball always started in the 'date' for that day, I recall actually slowing wheel right down and actually spinning it successfully into the number (even remember it was 19th lol) - Once in 5 years

2) Same number spun 4 times on the trot (32) - once in 5 years

3) Sat watching a game and stood up and said '14 red is next' as ball still spinning, dropped sweet as a nut and I had a table full of shocked punters - once in 5 years.

Sorry if this sounds harsh etc but there is NO system for roulette and anyone who thinks otherwise is only kidding themselves

 

[quber]

I think I'm being misunderstood. Let me explain. If I placed a chip on the first dozen, then if it failed to come in I (rather randomly) placed two chips on red, then if that failed to come in I placed (again randomly) 9 chips on 1,2,5,7,6,5 - can you tell me how often I would win over 1m spins?

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As KK said you would win close to 2.703% of the stake, if you repeated this many times you may have one go that hits it exactly but most of the time you would just be very close. If you ran this experiment again and again using the same order of bets you would get your wins in different places, I don't see what a bot would show that maths doesn't.

Also as said earlier what bets are dependent on previous bets?

 

[Deeplay]

what i think could get you a slight edge, is getting to know the way of the casino employee (who repeats the same movement with the spin and release of the ball 1000's and 1000's of times) . but that would only be possible (if possible at all) in land based casino's

I have read some of these "theories" at various forums dedicated to this kind of thing. Its make for interesting reading but nothing more. Sure software can track the trajectory of a ball / and this has happened and the people in question usually get caught. But these days casinos use different wheels/ balls which make it impossible to do any kind of tracking with the naked eye. All the software you can buy that supposedly tracks the start point of where the ball is released and so on is pretty much useless. And it is totally pointless even trying to attempt this kind of thing at an online casino.

People have tried for decades to "beat the wheel" and never have by conventional means. Finally the only winners for those selling so called "beat the house" software are the people who flog this stuff. And they will always be suckers who fall for this kind of crap.