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Trance this question sort of carries on from the bbw bonus round farce but is more of a generalisation regarding reel strips.
Do you think as players we should have access to reel strips? I find it quite strange that most things you can bet on have odds but a slot doesn’t have to display this. Only the overall rtp.
I know it’s probably expecting a lot to see the true odds of every outcome but when a slot advertises win up to 20,000x stake it would be nice to know the true odds of hitting that at least. I think @mack341 touched on this somewhere.
Regarding reel strips and being able to use different ones during the bonus round is something most players wouldn’t be aware of. Strictly I find it morally wrong that you can do this legally and not have to inform the player in the rules. It must be one of the only industries where you can legally deceive the customer.
I would also like to know the explanation for why some games appear to have fixed reel strips and some make it up as they go along so to speak.
Take a game like Gonzo’s Quest that appears to have fixed reel strips in that if you play it enough you know what symbols will appear after a cascade. Compare it to Napoleon (I know it doesn’t cascade) and that game is displaying symbols below the actual 15 that count. That if you shuffled all the reels up one position can’t possibly occur in those positions. For example the soldier in view and one directly below which can never happen.View attachment 107734
I also recall you saying somewhere that it’s best the player doesn’t know everything and I guess this falls into that category. A bit like ‘breaking the magicians code’ so to speak.
Snorky when I tried to look into this issue of odds being displayed, I'm sure I found the legislation or directive from the UKGC which said either the odds or rtp needs to be displayed, so the slot makers and casinos had an option and obviously chose rtp as the odds may have put people off.
I still feel if they advertise a particular maximum win in order to attract players then the odds for 'that' win should be displayed.
One game that I've played off and on for 3 years [don't know why because its mostly ripped me off remorsely ] is Giant's gold, and in the help page it does say the reels in the bonus round are different, I'm not sure I've read that in the other WMS games like rhino and spartacus, but I'm pretty certain the reels are different.
Recently from my slot play I'm coming more to the conclusion that all the games I've been playing [bonanza, rhino, spartacus to name 3] are all glorified scratchcard games [can't remember how chopley describe them now in his jammin jar vids, ball bag games ] the reason being the too frequent blocking symbols which conveniently stop a further win. So I'm sure the rng pulls a possible result from the paytable e.g. 0.5x, 48x, 0.2x etc.. and the front end program displays it, and it has a degree of flexibility of how it does so, the megaways engine provides a broader degree of flexibility.
If slots are basically scratchcard games then I think there's a stronger argument for the odds, just like national lottery cards, to be displayed. However I do see the argument that part of the excitement and fun can come from the mystery of not knowing the odds.
In my opinion from a strictly responsible gambling viewpoint and moral fairness some illustrative [rather than exhaustative] odds should be dispayed, but I can understand the pragmatic solution, from a business viewpoint, that the industry have come up with in just giving us the rtp information.