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Arthurian casino

Discussion in 'Ask the Meister' started by fortunecookie, Jun 17, 2003.

    Jun 17, 2003
  1. fortunecookie

    fortunecookie Dormant account

    This casino has a banner on your site.
    On the basis that u accept ads only from "good" casinos, I signed up with them and got their bonus of $150 from a $150 deposit.
    On reading their small print I found that they have two conditions:
    1. wagering requirement of 8x the deposit and bonus. This is not unreasonable.
    2. Cashin should be more than the deposit and twice the bonus. This second condition is really unfair. This is as good as saying that you must play until you win 100% of your deposit before u can cash out. We all know that the payout ratio of all casinos is nowhere near 100%, so the longer you play the more you will lose, unless u get into a rare winning streak. Even if you lose all your bonus or part of your deposit, u still cannot cash out because if you do, they will reverse the bonus and that mean u will end up in the -ve.
    Do u have any comments?
  2. Jun 17, 2003
  3. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    There are quite a few MG casinos that are doing this now fortunecookie. Vegas Slot had just sent me something yesterday trying to get me to sign up. They were offering a $70 match with similar conditions, but they were a bit worse! First was wagering requirement of 5x, not bad. Second was the one where you have to have your deposit and 2x the bonus in your account before you can cashout, ok not awful. Third was you can't play craps, baccarat, roulette, blackjack, sic bo, or any video poker games and have it count towards either your wagering or 2x cashin requirement! Now that's a bad bonus offer. It would have been easier for them to say you can only play slots, caribbean poker, or scratch cards to count towards the bonus. Either way you cut it, its bad odds and I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole!

    I have however taken up more than a couple of casinos on this type of offer that doesn't exclude videopoker, and have been able to double the bonus and cashout successfully. I don't think this offer makes Arthurian a bad casino, you just need to read all the conditions before you deposit.

    BTW, if do deposit and then receive a bonus and you then decide you don't like the terms, DON'T PLAY ANYTHING! Immediately call or email casino support and have them remove the bonus from your account. They'll do this and then you won't be bound by those wagering requirements and you can get your money back. Once you start playing with the combined money though, you're committed to the terms & conditions.
  4. Jun 18, 2003
  5. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Hi Fortunecookie,

    This casino comes from a very solid group. And like jpm implied, if you don't like the bonus terms, don't accept them. If you have any probs, please let me know.

    As a side note, I rarely play bonuses since I like the freedom to do what the f* I please.
  6. Jun 18, 2003
  7. glodge

    glodge Banned User - dodgy back stabber

    I can remeber way back, & I do mean way back, when people were kicking up a fuss about casino's bringing in 2x - 4x play throughts.

    They were the days :)

    IMO these 20x & now 40x play throughs while adding game restrictions to the criteria; roulette is understandable, it's just not worth accepting the bonus cash.

    Dropping $100 bucks to get another $100 and having to play $8,000 to be able to cash out, is a f****** joke.

    No thanks I'll drop a $100 and play with that, thanks all the same.

    As a side note, be careful as most casino's give you a bonus on the deposit method, this bonus must be played in accordence to these rules also.
  8. Jun 18, 2003
  9. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    LOL! A friend and I were just discussing this too glodge. We were saying, remember when Club MardiGras (and those other RTGs in that group that used to offer such excellent bonuses every week) upped their wagering requirements from 2x to 3x and we thought that was horrible! Now we look at 8x or even 10x and say, oh that's do-able.

    The ones I really hate though are the 5% neteller 'bonuses' that require 5x playthru of deposit + wager! Yeah, there's a deal. Deposit $100, play through $525 for a FREE $5!! Sign me up!
  10. Jun 18, 2003
  11. glodge

    glodge Banned User - dodgy back stabber

    They were the days my friend :)

    I can understand the play through on the bonus money, but the play through on the deposit money as well is IMO another BIG f****** Joke!

    You know at times IMO gamblers are are own worst enemy. I'm pretty sure if players cracked the sh#ts over the deposit money being brought into the play through requirements in the begining, we may not have seen it brought in. Then again the casino's would have probably just upped the play through requirement.

    No offense intended to anyway btw :)
  12. Jun 19, 2003
  13. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    Could be, but I suspect it would have happened anyway since too many casinos were losing money over these way-too-generous bonuses. I know that I for one took full advantage of those vegas strip casinos weekly bonuses. Must have made hundreds if not thousands off of those before they finally told me to piss off!
  14. Jun 22, 2003
  15. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

    You only need to win 50% more at Arthurian!! I don't think the terms are very clear though. If you meet the wagering terms and lose more than the bonus but still have most of your deposit and want to cash out, I'm not sure if they let you cash in your balance.

    I played in pounds and managed to cash in 450!
  16. Jun 22, 2003
  17. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    You can't cashin if you have less than deposit plus 2x bonus.
  18. Jun 22, 2003
  19. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

    If you don't complete the wagering requirements and cash in it says they will remove the bonus. But if you complete the wagering requirements I'm not sure if they let you withdraw your deposit (you'd probably forfeit the bonus).

    "Any cashin request before the minimum wagering requirements are fulfilled in full (as defined below in point 6) will result in the bonus being removed. "
  20. Jun 23, 2003
  21. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    Yeah, but that doesn't say you'll get your deposit back, just that the bonus will be removed.
  22. Jul 31, 2003
  23. swin

    swin Guest

    the point is : I can understand that casinos need to protect themselves by WR. But the deposit + bonus x 2 cashin requirement is just too hash and tough. It has nothing to do with bonus abuser or so. People who clearly see this won't play there. The only reason they put such bonus there is to take advantages of players just focusing on the WR and thus get 100% of the players deposit.

  24. Jul 31, 2003
  25. glodge

    glodge Banned User - dodgy back stabber

    I just got the mailout from Arthurian saw the 150% and thought hmmm not bad, until I eyeballed the WR, I found it to be vague, if not ambiguous.

    IMO and from memory the previous WR although excessively high, was much better than this.
  26. Aug 1, 2003
  27. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

  28. Aug 1, 2003
  29. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Home, sweet home
    Basically, I don't like FL group with all the emails and the wager requirement rules. I got mad 1-2 times due to the wager requirement wasn't clear and I can't withdraw ALL my money. BUT I did withdraw my money WITHOUT bonus.

    So I don't take ANY bonus anymore if I really want to play there. SO they will let you withdraw after removing the bonus.

    Personally, I ALWAYS read the terms and conditions BEFORE playing. Ecvery casino has his own rule. If I don't like it, I don't play there or don't take the bonus. That's what I do at 32Red casino last night. And I also prefer the casino won't automatically put bonus on me, so I can choose what I want without going through the CS trouble.

    It's just my 2 cents!

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