WARNING Ares Casino (arescasino.com) is BAD news for players

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It has come to our attention that Ares Casino (arescasino.com) is still up to its nasty tricks. This includes making bogus licensing claims, very likely using pirated games, confiscating player balances without justification and completely ignoring player complaints. Some of you may remember that they've got a fair history of this:
Ares Casino - Watch out! Fake games!! - Casinomeister Forum

Their "license" statement is as follows:
Arescasino is owned and operated by Arescasino of De Steeg Willemstad 45 and its fully owned subsidiary, Arescasino Ltd Address Hollandia 24 perst H12. Arescasino operates under Master License 6786733255 ATVD - lTV granted by the . Arescasino holds a master License 6786733255 ATVD - lTV . Payment are processed by Arescasino Ltd. For any questions or concerns, you may have, please do not hesitate to contact our Support 24/7

That's just jibberish to fool the unschooled: there is no such license and they don't even bother to say who that "license" is granted by.

To bring the story up to date we have a recent PAB that reveals they haven't changed their ways much:
I have been waiting a month to be paid out ... my deposits have been sent to travel companies in Kenya, they may not have a license, their games may be pirated and their telephone number is for a dating agency. I have also seen multiple complaints online about the non payout of winnings at other casinos which appear to be run by them - Cherry fiesta and 4 crowns.

And, of course, sister casino 4Crowns received its own Casinomeister Warning a while back:
4Crowns: bogus license, non-payment, ignored complaints - Casinomeister Forum
FTR, ThePogg has blacklisted 4Crowns Casino:
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WARNING: players are STRONGLY advised to avoid Ares Casino with extreme prejudice. For years players have reported being ripped off, mistreated and cheated by this casino and that apparently hasn't changed a bit. Go elsewhere!

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My considered experience is this. I play slot games. Iv'e got no idea whether they are pirated or not but the games I like to play are enjoyable. I have had some wins. My first withdrawal took forever and by that I mean the best part of a month but after that my withdrawals started to be processed quicker. I've never not been paid out but then iv'e never had a big win withdrawal either. At some point I seem to have reached VIP status which seemed to mean that I was paid out quicker, so for a while this casino seemed not that much different from other online casino's, which typically means that as long as you satisfy the X50 bonus or the 2.5 times your deposit then you can make a withdrawal.

However I seem not to be VIP status any more which means that I will probably wait and wait and wait for my withdrawal to be processed, which is rubbish. I understand that at the end of the day they are a business and they just want the customers money BUT they should play fair and be consistent and prompt with paying out when the customer has won when satisfying the conditions. I don't know whether its gonna take them 2 days to get paid out or 3 weeks... that is rubbish.

The customer service is ok. iv'e never not been able to chat with someone, but sometimes they do just cut you off, even though am not being rude or overly demanding. So there we go, that's my thoughts.
 
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Not on any of this casinos, and 100s of their other casinos they have they are all fake scam casinos without no license, Remember real crypto casino will not accept deposit on £ only scam crypto casinos will accept

 
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So i've been struggling with payout at arescasino what is your experience with them?

ares or arsecasino LOL? - sorry, but you probably won't see anything. These casinos have a sordid background, and they are probably run by people you'll never want to meet. I have published enough information that everyone should be able to put 2+2 together.

They have bent games - not authorised nor licensed by the creators of these games = Intellectual property theft
History of no pays = dodgy mo fo's
History of targeting problem gamblers = unethical vile management

Sorry to bring you this bummer news.
 
When I asked when my withdrawal would be processed. I received the following copy and paste.

Every time a withdrawal is requested, the system needs 24-48 hours to initiate the checking procedure. After that a relevant department is checking your game, account and financial history, which is a standard procedure. This process usually takes 7-21 business days. Kindly wait until your withdrawal is fully processed.

My question is... Do other people experience similar things at other online casino's?
 
When I asked when my withdrawal would be processed. I received the following copy and paste.

Every time a withdrawal is requested, the system needs 24-48 hours to initiate the checking procedure. After that a relevant department is checking your game, account and financial history, which is a standard procedure. This process usually takes 7-21 business days. Kindly wait until your withdrawal is fully processed.

My question is... Do other people experience similar things at other online casino's?
NO! Not at proper ones! Only scammers would suggest they use processes before a w/d of 7-21 days. They do NO checks at all, they haven't the people or infrastructure to do it anyway. They are simply run by one or two crooks and the delay is to make you give up, or spunk it back. I promise you, even after the 21 days is up, there'll be another excuse if you haven't given in and spunked back it yet on their fake games. If you still have your balance then and haven't spunked it back, then you are a PROBLEM to them. So then after the next excuse if you still persist with trying to w/d, you'll get talk to the hand, after that the account will be locked because it would be clear to them at that stage you won't deposit again so you're no longer any use to them.

If you say deposited 1k and or more and tried to w/d a lower amount, the chances are they WOULD pay as you're a bigger depositor and they are still ahead from you. Then say next time you deposited 1k and won for example 2k that's when the fun would start, with bogus KYC checks, the list of excuses and so-on.

These grasping crooks don't give a tinker's cuss about your play history or checking slot wins/play history because firstly the games are fake and secondly they don't give a toss how you won, but only the fact you're ahead at that point and their micromanaging of EVERY player account ensures nobody at all can win and take more than they spent.

The 10-point bullshit bingo list for potential net winners goes like this:

1. KYC checks (admittedly for ALL their players not just winners but absolutely pointless as they are unlicensed and can do without them and winners will always find there's a 'problem' with their details. These are merely data collection and the details will be used for spamming other scam sites to you then eventually sold on to fraudsters.)

2. Allegations you broke abstemious bonus terms.

3. Arbitrary account closure when it becomes apparent you won't deposit there again.

4. False accusations you are 'fraudulent' (yes, you couldn't make it up!)

5. Referring to previous attempts to close your account for Responsible Gambling reasons, ignored because a PG to them is like manna from heaven and they dream of every depositor being one, so ALL attempts by you to excercise restrictions will be ignored. That is, until you get lucky and win big at which time they'll 'remember' these failed ignored RG attempts and use that as an excuse you shouldn't be playing and then close your account (minus deposits and wins naturally.)

6. Your 'pattern of play' if you played at say $1 then raised to $3 a spin and won big at that stake, so bogus accusations of 'manipulating games' (you cannot manipulate random slots and games lol.)

7. They will bypass 2-6 above IF they believe they can inveigle more deposits from you and you are a net loser. This will mean more plausible excuses like game checks, payment provider issues etc. which may manifest themselves in your w/d showing as pending (so you don't touch it) but depositing again while it's pending. If you are an overall winner, the opposite will be true and you will told you cannot deposit while a w/d is pending, in order to make you reverse it to continue playing.

8. If you demonstrate discipline, persist in not reversing and not depositing again, then a small mini-list of bollocks will be enacted similar to what you mention in your post. Game checks, play pattern, verification of some invented nonsense or other.

9. If you then still have the audacity to want your money and haven't reversed, your account will be inaccessible. You may or may not get an e-mail, the final time you'll ever hear from them, stating one the of the above 2-6 excuses as the reason, it's non-negotiable etc.

10. If you try and contact any CS (if they pretend to have one that can do anything but encourage deposits) with a complaint, e-mail etc. you will be ingnored. As a final act of despair, you may threaten to contact their licensing authority - they won't have one and even if they did it would be as useful as a brown cistern block.

Sorry mate.
 
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Well yes I hear what you say. Am learning my lesson the hard way. I think the internet can bring out the worst in people because they don't physically see the consequences of their unscrupulous actions and behaviours. People just getting one over on each other in the endless pursuit of money

As the years pass I find myself getting more paranoid. Often I have no idea whether a text message is genuine, whether a phone call is a scammer or not, whether a "how to make money online" scheme is just a con and of course whether an online casino is actually gonna pay you out or not!!?

As technology advances I can only see things getting worse. Just gotta remain vigilant I suppose.
 
Unfortunately online gambling has always been somewhat of a shark infested cesspit, with a lot more rogue operators than good stand up operators. Regulation is very good although as we see here in the UK, over regulation can kill the industry, forcing decent operators to give up their licence.

Source of wealth checks are becoming more and more intrusive and thus forcing players into the arms of those operators that are based offshore which offer no protection for players or regulation. As is the case with Ares Casino.

The key is and this is the same for anything you do online, do your research, use sites such as Casinomeister to increase your knowledge of who and where to avoid and who are the 'good guy' operators.

There are some very good upstanding operators that are based outside the jurisdiction of the UKGC, but unfortunately there are a lot more ready and willing to rip off unsuspecting players. :(
 
I just finished reviewing this site; I would like to echo the previous comments; avoid this casino. Key takeaways from the review: Ignores player complaints, often refuses to pay winnings, highly likely using pirated/fake games, and confiscates player balances without reason.

The review should be up and live soon, if not already.
 
I just finished reviewing this site; I would like to echo the previous comments; avoid this casino. Key takeaways from the review: Ignores player complaints, often refuses to pay winnings, highly likely using pirated/fake games, and confiscates player balances without reason.

The review should be up and live soon, if not already.
No, they ARE using fake slots.
 
... The 10-point bullshit list for potential net winners goes like this: ...
Absolute gold! We should use that as the pre-amble for the entire Rogue section here at Casinomeister, verbatim.
 
The 10-point bullshit list for potential net winners goes like this:
Back before I knew better about where to play, I got this from one Playtech casino (after stalling my withdrawal for over a month with most of Dunover's 10 points): "We're under new management and we're not responsible for the financial obligations of the previous owners."
 
... "We're under new management and we're not responsible for the financial obligations of the previous owners."
Oh yes, I've run into that a few times over the years. They're happy to take the casino name, player database, etc but those debts? No, no, no. "Assets only, thank you very much."

How remarkably convenient that is! :rolleyes:
 
Oh yes, I've run into that a few times over the years. They're happy to take the casino name, player database, etc but those debts? No, no, no. "Assets only, thank you very much."

How remarkably convenient that is! :rolleyes:
That is exaactly what the COO from William Hill told me concerning the progressive jackpot that was stolen from the player from Joyland casino. An absolutely irresponsible response to the vile treatment a player had with the ownership of Joyland (the owners of Playtech owned Joyland at the time).

Playtech Progressive Jackpots Scandal
 
How very WillHill of them. Surprised I am not. I can just hear the boardroom conversation over that one:

Big Executive: "Okay, so we've got a few thousand players and the casino name out of the deal. Sounds good."​
Little Executive: "And the existing player balances?"​
Big: "What balances?"​
Little: "You know, their winnings, recent deposits, etc."​
Big: "I repeat, what balances?"​
Little: "So ... we're ... not paying winnings?"​
Big: "We bought assets. Debts were not part of the deal. Previous management's problem."​
Little: "And those players? They'll be pretty pissed off."​
Big: "Fine, let them keep their deposits."​
Little: "Blow-back? Could get nasty."​
Big: "What are they going to do, sue us? Let 'em try. Sure, we'll catch a bit of stick for a while but throw out a few nice bonuses and some splashy ads and it'll all be ancient history."​
Little: "And their winnings? What are we doing with all that?"​
Big: "How do you think we're paying you? Get this done and you can give yourself a nice little bonus. Merry Christmas."​
 
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That is exaactly what the COO from William Hill told me concerning the progressive jackpot that was stolen from the player from Joyland casino. An absolutely irresponsible response to the vile treatment a player had with the ownership of Joyland (the owners of Playtech owned Joyland at the time).

Playtech Progressive Jackpots Scandal
I seem to recall that the casino that used the "new ownership" excuse to not pay me was related to Joyland. I can't remember the name, something Miami? Miami something? Something to do with Florida anyhow. Lucky mine wasn't much but yeah getting screwed out of a progressive would suck.

EDIT: Actually I just remembered that time that Ray won that $36K progressive and they tried to do the same thing - that was the PAB we did, and you guys were able to get him paid in full!

:cheers::thumbsup:
 
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Well iv'e just prodded arsecasino again about my withdrawal.... day 11 since request put in. They say that sometimes when a lot of requests go in, it takes longer to get processed. They say that they will email me when my request has been processed. I say to them.... Why do you need to email me, just pay me out as normal!?.... to which they didn't really have an answer. I suspect we all know whats coming around the corner.

I think to myself why would they treat me this way, given that i have a history or re-depositing once I have been paid out. It makes no buisness sense, even for the more unscrupulous casino's.

sigh
 
Ive decided to give a running commentary about this withdrawal from now on. Its not even about the money anymore, cos its not a large amount, its 3 figures rather than 4 or 5.... its just about plain common decency i.e... If your prepared to take people's money "instantly" then you should be prepared to pay them out in a timely fashion when they have a bit of luck.
 
Ive decided to give a running commentary about this withdrawal from now on. Its not even about the money anymore, cos its not a large amount, its 3 figures rather than 4 or 5.... its just about plain common decency i.e... If your prepared to take people's money "instantly" then you should be prepared to pay them out in a timely fashion when they have a bit of luck.
you can play for free in this scam casino, just go to chat tell them you want to test casino before making deposit can you get free bonus money ? they will send you £20 up to £50
 

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