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Question Are there any casinos that do not have a turnover requirement for sign up bonuses????

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Yogi1234, Oct 4, 2013.

    Oct 4, 2013
  1. Yogi1234

    Yogi1234 Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Cashier (Tim Hortons)
    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    Hi,

    I am new to casinos and I played at one casino and I bought in for $50 and instantly received $100 and within about $30 into my money I won $700 and tried to make a withdrawal and I was unable to until I turnover $3000. At first I didn't understand but then I realized that casino's get you in the beginning because by giving you this bonus that seems good to new customers you don't realize that you have to play and bet 30-40 x your bet. Anyway I was wondering if there are any casino's that offer a sign up bonus like this without the turnover or having to bet 30-40 times the bonus?? I am particularly looking for a casino that instantly gives you the bonus like if you deposit $30 you get $60 or $50 and you get $100 and so on. Any ideas??:)
     
  2. Oct 4, 2013
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Sure, close your eyes, think happy thoughts, and maybe as you sleep, you'll dream of free cash

    Ya, um, no, casinos aren't in the habit of handing you free cash, no strings attached - theyd go bankrupt the first day out

    And casinos don't 'get you' with the deposit bonuses - they explain them in the terms. You DO read the terms right? I mean, you don't sign a lease without reading it first, get insurance, get a mortgage etc
     
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  4. Oct 4, 2013
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Casinos can not just give out free bonus money with NO stings attached - they would go bust in days! :eek:

    There are a small number of casinos which do allow early cash-out where you forfeit any remaining bonus and I think I have one on my site with no WR on the bonus, but it's Phantom (removed when you cash-out). There are also quite a few casinos offering no-deposit bonuses - but obviously these have quite strict wagering requirements before you can cash-out.

    With that big win you got, you should be able to complete the WR and cash-out some sort of profit.
    Do you know if the bonus is Cashable or Phantom?
    If not, name the casino & I'll tell you!

    KK
     
  6. Oct 4, 2013
  7. mrmark21

    mrmark21 Meister Member

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    australia
    Just up your bet, you could end up with even more profit! :) Thats what I like about bonuses they give me the ability to bet much more than usual so I could get a nice big win. If I loose I havent lost much because I didnt deposit allot to begin with. When playing on a bonus I tend to up my bet the bigger my balance gets. Once I won $1000 off a $10 deposit with 100% bonus using this strategy.

    I dont know of any casinos that are in the habbit of giving free cash away though.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2013
  9. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    As attractive as such a thing might be you do need to be realistic. Exceedingly few casinos operate as charities so the "free money, no strings" thing is a little hard to come by, as you might expect.
     
  10. Oct 4, 2013
  11. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
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    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Tell us which casino/software you are playing at and we can give you tips on which games to play that will enable you to have a turnover to fulfill the wagering requirements without losing the bulk f your balance. We call it slots of low vaeiance.
     
  12. Oct 4, 2013
  13. sigothx1

    sigothx1 Experienced Member

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    England
    Try betat.eu for your next deposit, you will get a 100% match so if you put in 50, youll get 100, there is wagering requirements but ure not tied to them as someone else mentioned, aslong as your willing to give up your bonus you can withdraw anything you win, so if you won that $700 on this site, youd give up the $100 bonus funds and be able to take out $600.
     
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  14. Oct 4, 2013
  15. slotplayer

    slotplayer Senior Member webmeister

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    the problem with bonuses and online casinos in general is there are too many strings attached.
     
  16. Oct 4, 2013
  17. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    Location:
    Haverhill
    Get in a time machine and go back to 2001. You'll find some casinos that meet your criteria.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2013
  19. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    How do you figure that out? It's usually simple - deposit then get bonus. Play and w/d if you reach WR, cashing the bonus out too at the same time unless the terms state it's removed when cashing out.

    The second type are free NDB's which carry a max cashout usually if WR is met.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2013
  21. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    Location:
    Haverhill
    You forgot about
    Don't play game X or we keep all your monies
    Don't bet more than X% or we keep all your monies
    Don't bet X% then switch to X% or we keep all your monies

    These rules aren't simple to a new online gambler.
     
  22. Oct 4, 2013
  23. slotplayer

    slotplayer Senior Member webmeister

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    the bonuses have wr and max bet rules, both designed to mitigate winning.

    contrast that to the land casino, they give me $150 free chip a day, (a true ndb)
    the requirements are you can't wd it and need to play it between 9am -11pm.
    you can wd any winnings off it and still play the free chip balance if any is left.

    the way the land casino mitigates winning is you can only use in the 1,2, 5,10 cent machines, not the 25 cent or $1 machines.

    the problem with online casinos is the slots allow for too large a wager swing (cents to hundreds of dollars) hence the max-bet rule on bonus money.

    For example, I can take my $150 free chip, put it all in the land casino 10 cent IGT slot CLEO II and hit max bet of $20 per spin. 5 scatters at max would pay $50K. I've won a few small jackpots off the free bonus money, all free and clear.

    I believe the RTG casinos limit bet size to $6.25 or $6.50 per spin on a bonus.

    if they limited the game wager swing to say up to 10 cents per payline when a bonus was in play maybe they would not have to have wr or max bet rules.

    imo the whole point of gambling is to have fun, not to work, imo figuring wr or grinding it out or making sure you don't accidentially hit the max bet button is work.

    when I played online I hardly ever took a bonus.
     
  24. Oct 4, 2013
  25. homerbert

    homerbert I-Gaming Industry Representative webby

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    Location:
    middle of Europe!
    best welcome bonus what i ever seen - stargames.
    If you win early, you can cashout winnings and continue play with bonus. Also looks like their welcome bonus have only 1x turnover, but you should use bonus money.
    Cool welcome offer, and not so cool casino, unfortunately.
    Also quasargaming, you can withdraw without clear wager( yeah? not try myself).
    Bet-at.eu also in this list.
     
  26. Oct 4, 2013
  27. akrus88

    akrus88 Experienced Member

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    Finland
    One casino pops up to my mind without any WR at all is 7red, BUT the bonus is sticky, so you are not able to withdraw the bonus money.

    Couple casinos that offers bonuses that you can forfeit (if you have not touched the bonus money): Leovegas, bet-at.eu, vera&john. Couple more wich I am not 100% sure of anymore: Euroslots, Fortune lounge group, Jackpot Factory group, expekt (europe casino).

    I think the ability to forfeit bonus, if you have not touched the bonus money is the fairest way to go.
     
  28. Oct 4, 2013
  29. weesie

    weesie Ueber Meister

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    Old bag lady with a laptop

    Or 1999............. that is when I first started playing on line..................... It was fantastic!
     
  30. Oct 4, 2013
  31. Yogi1234

    Yogi1234 Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Cashier (Tim Hortons)
    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    THANK YOU AND THIS IS MORE OR LESS WHAT I MEANT....I DO UNDERSTAND CASINO'S CANT GIVE OUT FREE MONEY AND I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO CASH OUT THE BONUS MONEY THEY OFFER ITS JUST GOOD TO BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH IT...GIVES INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY.
     
  32. Oct 4, 2013
  33. Yogi1234

    Yogi1234 Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Cashier (Tim Hortons)
    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANT OR MANUAL FLUSHING IS OR ANY OF THAT STUFF PLEASE EXPLAIN IF YOU CAN?
     
  34. Oct 4, 2013
  35. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

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    Right behind you
    7red doesen't have any wagering requirements. Not on their NDBs or match bonuses. The only terms i've seen is that you cant withdraw your bonus(only winnings from it), and that you cant withdraw less than around 150 Euros if you use a NDB, and havent deposited prior. That being said i have never made a withdrawal there, so dunno how they are. Havent hear anything bad of them though. But as people say, theres no such thing as a free lunch. When a casino is legit at doesent have any wagering requirements, i guess that must say something of their games RTP.
     
  36. Oct 4, 2013
  37. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    hey Yogi,

    Here is the short version:

    * Don't play game X or we keep all your monies:
    Some (most) casinos will stipulate which games are not playable in their terms and conditions. If you play those games after you select the bonus there is a very good chance your winnings will be taken away from you. Some other casinos don't rely on terms as much as technology and they will make sure those games do not have the option for bonus money to be played on them (making your experience safer). Whichever the case - read the terms and conditions well.

    * Don't bet more than X% or we keep all your monies:
    Some casinos will stipulate maximum playable bet for new players due to vast spread of bonus advantage and profiteering from bonuses only (aka bonus whoring / advantage play). This made casinos more and more stringent toward the bonus conditions they offer to their new players. As you get to become loyal to a casino, your bonus award become more lenient, however in initial days it is less so.

    The maximum bet rule means you can only play a bet up to a certain value. ON some casinos if you go over that value for any of your bets, your winnings will be taken away from you. ON some other casinos, the game will not allow you to go over such bet making you more protected by not giving you a way to lose your winnings through lack of knowledge or a mistake. Other casinos enforce a increase in total WR for winnings derived from large bets but will not influence your winnings or limit your bet value. Again, whichever the case: read the terms and conditions well.

    * Don't bet X% then switch to X% or we keep all your monies

    Again, classic Advantage Play strategy. A player can use the freely awarded money and stake it using very large bets on very low margin games (all aces VP, single deck BJ, baccarrat, etc.) through such strategy they have a fair chance of rapidly increasing their bankroll, and since the money was free they have nothing to lose by playing with bonus funds. The problem arises from Casinos catching on to this strategy and applying "game weights". Those weights are designed to make it very hard to cash in a bonus by playing extremely low risk games because those game will contribute very little or nothing at all toward your wagering requirement.

    AP's found a way around that by (attempting to) increasing the bankroll playing very low margin games at large hand values, then switching to slots playing very low hands on high margin games that do not have a "game weight" applied to them. It can be (to be fair, used to be) a very secure way to profit from the free funds going from one bonus to another.

    To eliminate this kind of a player Casinos established a rule by which you cannot do this and will remove your winnings if they do catch you doing this - all of them. There are no some casinos doing it differently - above example is unique to AP aka. "bonus whore". Again, to find out if this type of play is or is not allowed (99.9% of places will stipulate it isn't in their terms ): read the terms and conditions well.

    * Manual Flushing
    When you ask for a withdrawal, some casinos will place your withdrawal into a opening 24-72 hour period during which time you can reverse it. This is to decrease high banking costs (and they are high, believe me) as well as in hope you will lose your winnings back (it's a business after all). This business approach is construed to be predatory, unfair to say the least, so to find the right balance between players who do like to reverse and don't mind it and those that feel conditioned and forced by that feature, some casinos included "manual flushing" option. It's a system by which a player can click a button, or ask support to "flush" the money out of their pending reversible state and into immediate processing.

    Some casinos simply flush automatically as soon as you withdraw and don't keep your deposit pending. those casinos will not have manual flushing function as there will not be need for one. Again, yep you guessed it: read the terms and conditions well. :)

    I hope that clears a few things for you.
     
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  38. Oct 5, 2013
  39. sigothx1

    sigothx1 Experienced Member

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    England
    no problem, And goodluck!
     

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