Are slots becoming boring?

nutnut

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Only started on slots 4 years ago, and I'm a small stakes player max deposit £20 a time. I've had some ok wins, once cashing out £700 and £500 in one night at jackpot247, looking back I'm not sure how the hell I did given the struggle nowadays to turn £10 even into £100....

Recently with money being tight I mostly got joy out of playing free spins, my first passion is horse racing betting anyway.

But last 2/3 months playing the same slots with same outcome of small wins or winning balance back it's got predictable and boring. I never feel like I'm in with a chance of winning a big win.

Tonight I deposited 10 got 20 bonus usually I try to build up and enjoy but got bored so quickly I did £1 spins and was glad when it was over.

I enjoy gambling but slots to me is not gamble in the sense it is rigged to lose, with other forms of gambling I have some input on the outcome.

How do others play everyday and still enjoy it? Im sticking to free spins and losing the casinos own money, and putting my funds into real gambling which I enjoy win or lose.
 

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For me... yes.

The new slot releases used to draw me back in.
Then I would go play the old favourites, but as the new slots are utter garbage then nothing is drawing me back and the old favourites dont seem to play the same anymore.
I mean £70 loss on TS2 on 30p spins without a bonus, that is just ridiculous.
On the Val free spins in the early days, used to get Thor with a wild oftenish, havent seen him at all for a couple of years.

I havent deposited anywhere for a month now, and im not missing it at all.

I do play the free spins if im offered any though, 4 cashouts so far this year from freebies, not big ones though, but im not complaining.

I have gotten back into the FME scene again to pass some time.
 

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How do others play everyday and still enjoy it?
I guess we're just Slots Junkies, eh Simmo? :p

I really don't know: I've played slots virtually every single day since 2005 - and I still love it. It MUST be an addiction.
(I reckon I DON'T play only about 15-20 days per year - mostly when away on holiday without my laptop (which isn't often!))

And yes, a lot of new slots are boring: Some look GREAT, sound GREAT and are entertaining... but the bottom line is that we players must feel there is a CHANCE of winning something decent - with most (not all) new slots I just don't get that feeling.
e.g. I was playing Vikings Go Berserk again last night (idiot!) - I have lost many £100's on it and I know deep down I will never get it back, and that if I do ever trigger the Berserk Spins again, that the pay-out will be pathetic. :(

KK
 

nikantw

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I enjoy gambling but slots to me is not gamble in the sense it is rigged to lose, with other forms of gambling I have some input on the outcome.

It is the same, almost. :)

Other forms give you some input, slots give you variance and TRTP. In any practical way it is the same thing. Speed is the difference, how many bets you can place in given time and how fast you know the outcome.
When you "know" a team or a horse will win, its like you "know" a slot is hot. And usually you get better odds with slots. I find the "more in control" feeling of other forms in respin type of slots. Need to be carefull with them.

But maybe finding slots boring is not a bad thing! It makes it more difficult to get addicted to them. Whatever you do try to keep it fun, it is the best way.
 

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It's an interesting question but I think the answer will really depend on how lucky you're currently running. Without a doubt I wouldn't get bored of slots if I was hitting wins and features left, right and centre. I don't think that can ever get boring.

But when you've chased a feature at great cost to get a 10 x then yes it does become boring and quite quickly especially if you enter that "I'm never gonna win" mind set.

Quite a common theme across the threads is playing hundreds of spins and busting out with no features / bonuses and generally not having much fun at all. This will happen of course when you play random slot machines. It also doesn't help that providers set such high odds for triggering features but they would be in a better position than me to determine what an average session looks like. But I wonder...just wonder....If there is a case at all for more compensated slot games a.k.a. UK fruity type games.
 

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Let's face it, slots are boring as hell. Most players are so blinkered when it comes to being entertained that they've become accustomed to defending slots as a viable form of passing time, when really it's comparing the 'best of a bad lot'.

In say eight hours of slot play you'll be lucky to have one or two good spins.....it's the anticipation of winning and past remembrances of previous successes that keep us tuned into a game. There is possibly only one game that plays differently to the others, and that's DOA, simply because of that bonus feature.

I think slot addiction covers a lot of the games' deficiencies, and it's only when taking a step back from playing them that one realizes how lacking games are. In comparison to other media, slotting is woefully inept, especially the newer releases which are highlighting the format's limitations.

When the industry can't innovate anymore, we're left with clones and re-hashes which become stagnant and boring. This becomes evident when not playing, right up to the point when slot nostalgia takes over, and I'm left searching for the deposit menu in the hope of repeating past glories. It's only when busting out and refelcting that I realize how bloody boring that slot session was, and that I'd rather have spent it elsewhere! :cool:
 

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Pretty much same as most others here.

Find it boring as you know your gonna lose before you start 9/10.

New releases can go back to where they came from, garbage

Old "classics" have been tampered with to fuck for a fact! - Egg O, Thunderstruck I and II also CFTBL to name a quick few, rigged BS

Casino promotions are dire and will only get worse.

Lag and disconnections pretty much at least 50% of the time

Overall an experience I once loved, I barely even like now!

Boredom is the main thing which draws me back now and then, come the summer / better weather it will be exercise and bike rides instead :D
 

lotusch

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I am on the verge of implementing a 6 month break in online slotting.
I do recognise the same feelings as some have already ventilated in this thread.
As of late I feel that every deposit is just a waste of money really, and I think if you start playing whilst thinking that, you better might quit for a while. :)

I am one of the people who go back to casino's and play the slots I am behind on money wise.
Because I still hope that at some stage the slot will make up for my losses with at least a half decent win or a big hit.
This seems nearly impossible as of late.
I have hammered Cleo Plus (Rizk) and GoT 243 (Royal Panda) & Gorilla's go Wild (Casino Euro), 3 different casino's and 3 completely different slots although all HV slots.
Ow and I forgot my streak of NO FS trigger on Lucky Lady Charm at Ladbrokes for about 2500 spins!
I am seriously a couple of 1000 in the minus on these slots over the last 6 months, also all winnings from other slots have been pumped into these pieces of sh*t.

I understand HV but there is a point where HV turns into a big joke.

Losing is not an issue,that's almost a cert when you gamble.
But somewhere along the way I found that the slots just became tighter and tighter.

Who wants 1200 spins and end up with a FS round of 3x bet.
Pure sadistic.

And this is the reason why lately playing slots do not really amuse me anymore.

So I have started to go to a local B&M casino lately and I really enjoy that.
Have some craic with other players, free food and beverages and sometimes the manager walks around and shoves a €20.00 note in the slot on the house.
€20.00 for free...I have deposited 1000's at certain casino's and they wouldn't even give me a tenner.

Which brings me to the next point. The online casino's.

I feel they are just interested in your cash and your custom but they do bloody little to show you this.
There is exactly 1 casino that used to be the absolute bomb when it comes to treating a customer right and that is GUTS.
I have never ever experienced anything close of what GUTS did to me as a VIP player.
Regular a free chip was in my mailbox, great depo bonusses, an Xmas gift of €250.00 cash, €200.00 birthday money wager free and a superbly good CS and manager at the time (Ben) who I still sometimes have contact with. ;)

Now you lose money and all the casino sends you is a mail with up to 50 FREE SPINS *on minimum bet* if you depost 100 Euros or more... WOW WOW WOW! :oops:

So good thread OP!
Wanted to open a similar thread but kept forgetting about it. :D
 

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Many times I've seen players comments about 'games not playing how they used to / something has changed / etc' & I'll chime-in here with some info from the other side. (I've been a gambler for ~30years, but in this post, I'm speaking as someone who's worked in the game design and publishing perspective). So to cut what could be a very long and technical story short...


When games are released, there is a flurry of activity on them... Thousands of players playing hundreds of thousands of spins every day. This volume of wagering means that the RTP balances-out very quickly.

As time passes, newer games are released / additional content is taken from other providers and therefore the less frequently the games mentioned in the previous paragraph are played (assuming no special promotions are on it). This means that (for want of a better expression) the less frequently the full RTP cycle is experienced and as a direct result of this, the more infrequent the big wins become. (Yes, every spin is still independent of the previous one & big wins could still happen on back-to-back spins).

It's really not the games that change over time, it's the wagering that takes place on them.

Hopefully this helps.
 

lockinlove

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The problems I find is they are being tampered with too much and for me, that takes away from the entertainment.

You cant tell me they didnt mess with TSII.

I think yggdrasil missed out on a huge opportunity with the release of vikings go berserk. The game graphics, special features and music are next to none. They could have reeled in some serious gambling and become a massive hit. Instead, greed and destruction lined their thoughts and instead made a blatantly rigged game that will actually piss you off.

Netent, for whatever reason. I am going to go with someone in the higher ups doing alot of drugs, decided to ruin a pile of their games.

And then alot of the recent releases are just garbage.

I remember the days (even when I just lurked) this forum was frequented with threads of some really exciting slot releases. When was the last time we had some threads on that? Not often enough. Instead, when they have the chance to make an epic slot, they fail. Lets take Game of Thrones for example. You have a chance to make an incredibly popular series into an epic slot but instead they decided to save money with boring symbols and an ultra high variance slot that makes it almost unplayable.

Then to top it off, they took away absolute gems like the batman and lord of the rings slots. That was just a massive mistake in my opinion. I miss those games an awful lot.

The industry is shooting themselves in the foot with their greed, bad ideas and piss poor leadership.
 

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Many times I've seen players comments about 'games not playing how they used to / something has changed / etc' & I'll chime-in here with some info from the other side. (I've been a gambler for ~30years, but in this post, I'm speaking as someone who's worked in the game design and publishing perspective). So to cut what could be a very long and technical story short...


When games are released, there is a flurry of activity on them... Thousands of players playing hundreds of thousands of spins every day. This volume of wagering means that the RTP balances-out very quickly.

As time passes, newer games are released / additional content is taken from other providers and therefore the less frequently the games mentioned in the previous paragraph are played (assuming no special promotions are on it). This means that (for want of a better expression) the less frequently the full RTP cycle is experienced and as a direct result of this, the more infrequent the big wins become. (Yes, every spin is still independent of the previous one & big wins could still happen on back-to-back spins).

It's really not the games that change over time, it's the wagering that takes place on them.

Hopefully this helps
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Very much so, these were my "self explanation" for the reasons also :thumbsup: (not as much experience of you online, I have 14 years)

I feel the greater the experience of the player (length of time served / playing etc) the more prone we are to noticing these "declines"

Its a gamblers / human nature to ignore the genuine reasons however and simply bitch and moan instead and yes I self admit I am a prime culprit of doing this :oops: :oops:

There are however exceptions to every 'rule' and TSII something is defo amiss. It was one of my main played (IE: Every session) - Backed off a bit now but have now done in excess of 3,000 spins with NOT ONE BONUS (and this is at just ONE casino!!!) Maybe just me but seems even HARDER to trigger on browser version. I much prefer the viper version but am not starting to get paranoid it actually remembers 'you know what :rolleyes:'
 

nikantw

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The industry is shooting themselves in the foot ...

Yes, but they also have to fight fraudsters, politicians and bankers. Not easy.

On the other hand, it's very bad the way a slot can treat you. Again with the respin ones, I did a test with free money. I made a respin that paid something like 1.75x or 0. So it should pay out 4 out of 7 times to get the TRTP.
I started doing that respin again and again (in free mode) to see how bad it can get. 33 is the number, 33 spins without a win in a respin that can only pay 1.75x or 0.

Imagine what can happen with a 100x or a 1000x especially when you have all the other smaller hits in between.

Want a big FS sample? How about 100 FS rounds with real money that pay less than 40x and most under 10x. It was a very bad day for me last year.
 

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Most boring slots would be Konami with over hundreds free spin! Thats about it.

Konami used to make great videogames, now they make average games and even worse slots! What a sad decline for a classic brand :(
 

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Konami used to make great videogames, now they make average games and even worse slots! What a sad decline for a classic brand :(

up up down down left right left right b a select start

yeah girls play video games too :D
 
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Lag and disconnections pretty much at least 50% of the time

Overall an experience I once loved, I barely even like now!
I agree very much with you there. Playing slots gets worse and worse because of unserious operators and slot suppliers. The suppliers won't do anything cause the casinos doesn't complain, and the casinos won't do anything cause enough players doesn't complain. So I urge everyone experiencing just a bit of lag or a single disconnection at a casino to complain and demand compensation.
 

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up up down down left right left right b a select start

yeah girls play video games too :D

Knowing the Konami code gives away your age LOL.

My last big win was on Konami's Electrifying Riches. Went through 480 free spins. I have had some good results on Konami but it is tiresome sitting through dozens of dead spins in those games. I'll be avoiding those Konamis for awhile.
 

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Losing is never fun, but I just can't get bored with the 9-liners like TSI, Ladies Night and Agent Blonde - and my other favourites Piggie Riches and Cloud Quest. These slots occassionaly surprise me with some nice 200-500x wins, although admittedly lots of dead spins make me wary, causing me to play only at modest stakes (0.18 - 0.90).

New slots? Hardly ever play them, you must catch them 'at the right moment' (as with all slots really), but apparently timing is not my strong suit (not over the last few years):D
 

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Thankfully most Konami Slots here are not Xtra so most free spin are smaller and bigger win multipliers instead of too many free spins. And it has jackpot standalone feature on most of Konami like Gold Mine or Round One Kangaroo Boxer feature. Most popular though is Pirate Rose.
 

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Talk about tilting, 3 weeks ive had 3 symbols unlocked on this game waiting waiting waiting to hit bonus lost about 40 on it chasing it which is a lot for me. was so annoyed i kept going and finally triggered it. base game is awful wins but with right symbols unlocked his game has huge potential.

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Valhalla

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Have to agree with the majority here in that slots nowadays do seem so much tighter, which really does make them seem boring.
I do of course get the odd big win even today but it has to be a "hit and run" or I will absolutely lose the lot. You can't sit down (figure of speech; you're already sitting) at a classic MGS 9-liner and play away for hours, getting free spins and enjoying yourself. If the slot doesn't pay big quickly, it absolutely WILL rape your balance in no time at all. And we all know about the 243-way jokemeisters :rolleyes:

I'm currently at about 1000 (one thousand) 90p spins on BdBA @ Casumo with no free spins. I can practically guarantee if I ever get them, it'll be endless dead spins, countless extra free spins, and maybe.. just maybe I'll get three 10's with a wild somewhere. Sigh...

Sometimes I feel like a lab rat sitting here hitting the feeder bar for a food pellet that never comes, it's so robotic and mundane. Where's the fun?
 

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It's hard for slot designers to make a slot be exciting whilst at the same time designed to take your money :p There's always going to be a contradiction in that if the slot can give big feature payouts then there has to be a lot of deadspins in order to pay for those features . Or if the slot gives lots of base game wins then the feature has to be low paying . Or there's the medium variance games like Guns n Roses which never give huge payouts in base game or feature. Most people consider the 1st type of slot the most exciting but like GoatWack said most of your playtime is just waiting in hope of that huge hit . An observer who doesn't play slots would probably wonder how you could be so stupid pressing spin over and over again whilst getting nothing back

I wonder if there's any possibility of slots being produced that have exactly 100% RTP and casino taking money in fees rather than from the rtp ? Like every half hour a fee is deducted from your balance . Might sound strange but if you play live poker then often at higher limits they just have a charge like this rather than each individual pot being raked
 

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I'm playing more Play 'n' Go and NetEnt games these days. Fed up of the MicroCloning trash that keeps coming out.

The only difference I've noticed is the big wins (x1000+) are becoming less and less.
 

Steviedoo

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I've been playing play n go and find that I'm missing the big hits I used to get on mg and Netent.

I also find the new slots from quickspin, and providers like red tiger, pragmatic, yggrdrasil to be setting a trend of going 15 to 20 spins without a small win...when you go 15 to 20 spins without anything not even a smallish win on mg slots you know the slot is cold....however with these providers it is the norm.

Is this going to be a thing? It's not boring when this happens it's outright frustrating...cuz you can go through 100$ very quickly even at 40 cents a spin....
 
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