paulyjustin
Dormant Account
- Joined
- Nov 7, 2016
- Location
- mexico
I see that there are still many sites that offer bonuses. However i remember back in the old days there were true bonuses. I recalled there was either 1 or 2 online casinos where they gave you a $100 bonus and you had to deposit $100 i believe. Then i go and play minimum $1 blackjack and rollover was very low. I dont remember how much but i believe you should be profiting a good portion of that $100. I see there is a thread posted here
called missing the old days and that is what i mean by that. I probably did only a few sites only back then very few probably max of 2. I read back then many people did these bonuses a lot with reloads where there were true bonuses.
I play poker on pokerstars, 888 etc. Have accounts there and on partypoker as well and see they have live casinos for all. These sites offer match bonuses etc. But i guess the rollover is not worth it right? For example, stars offers up to $400 bonus if you deposit $200 into the casino. It says you need to earn 3 starscoins per dollar to earn the bonus.
Live Baccarat $30
Live Blackjack $44
Live Caribbean Stud Poker $18
Live Casino Hold’em $15
Live Roulette** $12
Live Three Card Poker $9
So this means if you want to do this through live blackjack, you have to wager $44 x 3 = $132. Then $132 x 400 = $52,800?
Thus if you want to get the $400 casino bonus and play it only through live blackjack, you have to wager $52800 before you can cashout everything? Thus basically no bonus is worth it because of the rollover right? Whats confusing is what if you dont complete the rollover? Let say you wagered a total of $500. And say you won $30. So basically you can forfeit the bonus and then cashout the $30? But say you wagered a total of $500 only. You lost $50. You surrender the bonus. You basically just lose your $50 and thats all?
Basically no bonuses through online casinos are worth it right due to the extreme rollover requirements? Im wondering does anyone know what is the expected loss if you played $5 blackjack per hand and wagered a total of $52800 while playing perfect blackjack strategy? Isn't the house edge 0.5% for house if played perfect strategy?
Thus in order to get the $400 bonus, it will be $52800 x 0.5% = $ 264. Thus the EV of this is actually positive and thus $ 400 - $264 = $134? Or is this math wrong since the huge rollover almost always means -EV? I assume 888 and partycasino if you want to play live dealer, the bonus conditions might be worst than pokerstars? I know that i wont play any casino game against the house such as online blackjack that is like auto machine. Thus i would only play live dealer as its more legit.
Can someone tell me if any signup bonuses or reload bonuses nowadays are even worth it? Or its a complete waste of time? And if i do play live dealer, best to just not deal with any bonus ? Also do you people say completely avoid online casino that isn't live dealer? I definitely feel thats rigged. But live dealer, well that is more legit.
called missing the old days and that is what i mean by that. I probably did only a few sites only back then very few probably max of 2. I read back then many people did these bonuses a lot with reloads where there were true bonuses.
I play poker on pokerstars, 888 etc. Have accounts there and on partypoker as well and see they have live casinos for all. These sites offer match bonuses etc. But i guess the rollover is not worth it right? For example, stars offers up to $400 bonus if you deposit $200 into the casino. It says you need to earn 3 starscoins per dollar to earn the bonus.
Live Baccarat $30
Live Blackjack $44
Live Caribbean Stud Poker $18
Live Casino Hold’em $15
Live Roulette** $12
Live Three Card Poker $9
So this means if you want to do this through live blackjack, you have to wager $44 x 3 = $132. Then $132 x 400 = $52,800?
Thus if you want to get the $400 casino bonus and play it only through live blackjack, you have to wager $52800 before you can cashout everything? Thus basically no bonus is worth it because of the rollover right? Whats confusing is what if you dont complete the rollover? Let say you wagered a total of $500. And say you won $30. So basically you can forfeit the bonus and then cashout the $30? But say you wagered a total of $500 only. You lost $50. You surrender the bonus. You basically just lose your $50 and thats all?
Basically no bonuses through online casinos are worth it right due to the extreme rollover requirements? Im wondering does anyone know what is the expected loss if you played $5 blackjack per hand and wagered a total of $52800 while playing perfect blackjack strategy? Isn't the house edge 0.5% for house if played perfect strategy?
Thus in order to get the $400 bonus, it will be $52800 x 0.5% = $ 264. Thus the EV of this is actually positive and thus $ 400 - $264 = $134? Or is this math wrong since the huge rollover almost always means -EV? I assume 888 and partycasino if you want to play live dealer, the bonus conditions might be worst than pokerstars? I know that i wont play any casino game against the house such as online blackjack that is like auto machine. Thus i would only play live dealer as its more legit.
Can someone tell me if any signup bonuses or reload bonuses nowadays are even worth it? Or its a complete waste of time? And if i do play live dealer, best to just not deal with any bonus ? Also do you people say completely avoid online casino that isn't live dealer? I definitely feel thats rigged. But live dealer, well that is more legit.