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Are all online casinos this crooked with bonuses???

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by AdamD7, May 29, 2009.

    May 29, 2009
  1. AdamD7

    AdamD7 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Computer TECH
    Location:
    USA
    I'm ready to pick a casino and make deposit. I'm thinking WOW, this will be great depositing $200+ and getting a match of $200 !!!! Then I read the fine print and almost puke. I have to bet 10-20x my deposit plus bonus amount before I can withdraw any money. That is like $6000 worth of wagering and to top it off , it appears to be the wagering has to be mainly on the slots, which I don't even play. This is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!! It honest makes me want to completely shy away from all of this before I even get started.

    Before I quit before I start in disgust, are there any casinos out there where I can make a deposit, and actually WITHDRAW my money whenever I want to ??????????????? I don't even want a bonus, unless it's fair.

    UNREAL
     
  2. May 29, 2009
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    10-20x unfair?

    Do yourself a favor and don't take a bonus. :p
     
  4. May 29, 2009
  5. slotheadlizard

    slotheadlizard Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Movie mercandiser/Researcher
    Location:
    The Nati USA
    Bonus

    Sure, just play somewhere and don't put in the bonus code. Most casino start up bonuses that I use are mainly just on slots and are between 15-20x deposit and bonus before a cashout is allowed. There are some table game players on the forum that may be able to help you with some non slot bonuses. Good Luck:)
     
  6. May 29, 2009
  7. AussieGambler21

    AussieGambler21 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Farm Labourer
    Location:
    NSW Australia
    For most casinos do not enter a bonus code, however if you find a casino that automatically credits the bonus to your account, you don't have to worry. All you got to do when you make the deposit and receive your bonus is not touch the bonus or deposit at all (don't even place one small bet) and just get on to customer support and ask them to remove the bonus from your account and when this happens (should only take a few minutes) just confirm with them that the bonus has been removed and confirm that you can now withdraw whenever you want.

    Also regularly check the promotions page because usually there are a few table game promotions. :)
     
  8. May 29, 2009
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Good advice, but you should check to make sure that this can be done before you make a deposit...

    And also make sure that they won't exclude you from all bonuses, just in case they send one out that is actually worth taking...
     
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  10. May 29, 2009
  11. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    30xBonus wagering ($6000 wagering on a $200 bonus, like you listed) with low weighting on non-slot games is the standard for Microgaming. There are some bonuses with far less wagering... in a few cases 2xBonus wagering or less. And there are also a few bonuses that permit you to withdraw whenever you choose as well (used to be standard for MG a couple years ago), but these low wagering bonuses are the exception, not the rule.
     
  12. May 29, 2009
  13. Markus

    Markus Banned User - Violation of forum rule 1.10 - playe PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Berlin
    Yes, it's called Clearplay bonus. There are some casino who offer this kind of bonus, for example: 32Red Group (32 Red Casino, Dash Casino), Jackpot Factory Group (All Slots Casino, All Jackpots Casino, Wild Jack, First Web Casino), Casino Rewards Group (Challenge Casino, Yukon Gold Casino, Captain Cooks Casino, Blackjack Ballroom, Aztec Riches, Casino Kingdom, Zodiac Casino, Lucky Emperor Casino, Virtual City Casino), Canbet, Casino Club and others

    You might be also interested in Post-wager bonus, with this you will get the bonus credited after you have met the WR and you can withdraw anytime.
     
  14. May 29, 2009
  15. AdamD7

    AdamD7 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Computer TECH
    Location:
    USA
    thanks

    Thank you very much guys!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate the wisdom.

    I'm glad there is a way around this. I was disgusted over this last night! Thanks again!
     
  16. May 29, 2009
  17. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Since the OP gives his location as USA, none of those casinos are available to him anyway. :(
    I don't know any OK for USA casinos who have "ClearPlay" or post-wager bonuses.
    {Edit} Just remembered; All Star Slots has "ClearPlay" - but it's slots only.

    Some bonuses can be great if you play them right - even slots bonuses!
    I've been making regular profit by using casino bonuses for 8-years.

    However, I agree that there are very few decent non-slots bonuses available at casinos who accept USA players, so if you only want to play cards, dice or roulette then you would be better off not taking any bonuses as others have said above.

    But please chose your casinos carefully - even without bonus T&C's there are still lots of casinos who will rip you off. :mad:
    Stick to recommended / accredited ones only.
    Good luck! :thumbsup:
     
  18. May 29, 2009
  19. tombee

    tombee Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    Wageningen, Netherlands
    32Red and withdraw whenever you want?? I do not think that is true. I always get an e-mail telling me I still need to wager xxx before I can withdraw anything. Maybe you mean withdraw the original amount whenever you are ahead, voiding the bonus?
     
  20. May 29, 2009
  21. Markus

    Markus Banned User - Violation of forum rule 1.10 - playe PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Berlin
    Yes, this is what a Clearplay bonus is all about. Of course you can't withdraw the bonus amount without fulfilling the WR.
     
  22. May 29, 2009
  23. XOXOXOXOXOX

    XOXOXOXOXOX Let em spin... PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    O Canada!
    What about winning?
    I personally never seen clearpay bonus at any MG and i have many accounts. They all want me to finish play-thru.
    I wish I knew what casino has it for sure and how to get it. I usually claim only 100% bonuses.
     
  24. May 29, 2009
  25. Markus

    Markus Banned User - Violation of forum rule 1.10 - playe PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Berlin
    You can also withdraw your winnings even if it was made from the bonus money. Only the bonus is voided if the WR is not met.

    Have you ever played in the MGs I have listed?
     
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  26. May 29, 2009
  27. XOXOXOXOXOX

    XOXOXOXOXOX Let em spin... PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    O Canada!
    Many of them, may be i'll try Jackpot Factory Group. thx.
     
  28. May 30, 2009
  29. suzy1975

    suzy1975 Banned User PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    cleaner
    Location:
    glasgow
    hi Adam

    how r u? bonuses are a bitch aint they? The only way to receive a fair game that you can instantly w/draw is by refusing the bonus and then you only have your cash to play with.
     
  30. May 30, 2009
  31. WonderingSpirit

    WonderingSpirit Casino critic

    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    Scandinavia
    Although many bonuses seems and might be crooked, a wr x15 is not that bad.

    If there were no wagering for bonuses, all you would have to do is to visit casino deposit 100 get 200, and cashout. And take the tour to all casinos you could find. Would not last long though as all casinos would be broke within a week.
     
  32. May 30, 2009
  33. ksech

    ksech Dormant account

    Occupation:
    yes
    Location:
    Here
    If you are so concerned about meeting wagering requirements from a bonus, why use them then? On occasion I've been offered bonuses with totally extreme WR, one was a $10 free chip with a 75xplaythrough. BUT, I've also been offered bonuses with 'sensible' playthrough. One Rival casino I play at has, what I deem fair, WR on their bonuses. I think I've used it once, didn't win, but the challenge was nice.
    Your best bet, if you want to be able to withdraw your money when you want is to NOT take any bonus. There isn't a law that states you are forced to accept a bonus to play at a casino. As stated before, you can go to live chat, if available, and tell them you don't want to use a bonus.
     
  34. May 31, 2009
  35. thenmh

    thenmh Dormant account

    Occupation:
    employee
    Location:
    home
    beware of the Vegas partner lounge group casinos, once you deposit and the bonus is given they will refuse to remove it even if you didn't make any wager after the bonus was credited. They tell you that you must "opt-out" of bonuses before making the deposit.
     
  36. Jun 3, 2009
  37. catrina m

    catrina m Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    service
    Location:
    US of A
    Try inetbet

    Unless you enter a code you will get no bonus

    I think you have to wager at least 1X what you deposited but for straight up play and a fair casino that pays they are good.
     

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