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archive 1998/1999

Discussion in 'The Archives' started by Gene, Nov 27, 1998.

  1. Gene

    Gene Guest

    Here is the summary of my recent experience of playing online. I think that somebody might be interested to learn it.

    1. You must register/login in order to see the link. - a free online lottery. To win one has to answer a question about the site and to guess at least 4
    numbers in the real UK lottery (1:1,000 probability). No fees, one entry per person. I won 250 Swiss francs ($190) and received the money within 10 days
    by wire to my bank.
    2. www.uslottery.com gave me free $25 to test the games. I played bingo, found the games lousy, but won $28, withdrew, got the check. The money was
    actually received.
    3. www.goodluckclub.com gave me free $25, I played roulette, found it good enough, won $80, received and cashed their check.
    4. www.granddominican.com gave me free $25, I played roulette, found it not too good, won and withdrew $50, received their check and mailed to my
    bank. Their site does not have a secure server for credit card transactions.
    5. www.fortunecasino.com gave me free $30 on my initial purchase of $ 20. I played roulette, found it good enough, won $120, received $20 back to my
    credit card and a check for $100. Mailed the check to my bank.
    6. mapau casino, a sister of #5, gave me free $30 on my initial purchase of $ 20. I played roulette, found it good enough, lost all money.
    7. www.ccasino.com gave me free $50 on my initial purchase of $50. I played roulette, found it good enough, lost all money. Added $30, lost. My wife was
    also given free $50. She won and withdrew $70 couple of days ago.
    8. www.firstlive.com gave me free $10, I played roulette on the site without any downloading, found it not too good (maybe because of my lousy ISP), won
    $26, received it to my card 3 weeks later. Then I purchased $20, won $30 (net $10), I am now expecting the cash-in to arrive. Then I purchased $50, won
    $90, cash-inned $80. Now waiting for the money to arrive.
    9. Englishharbor Casino gave me free $20 on my initial purchase of $20. I played roulette, found it good enough, lost all money.
    10. Casino of South Pacific at www.cosp.com or www.sp.cosp.com. I had very bad experience here. The site is bad, service is no good, games are
    primitive, connection is very slow. The overall impression is disgusting. They gave me free 5 Swiss francs ($3), I played slots, won 50, and after 2 months I
    am still unable to withdraw the winnings which are in the pending category. Only cleared winnings are allowed to withdraw. My e-mails are ignored.
    Besides, they say they charge 8 Sfr for a check.
    11. I have never played the sister casinos of Treasurehunter, Twinklingstar, Casino Manhattan because I did not like the way they acted, like ignoring
    e-mails, suddenly changing their plans etc. My total impression of their acting is as of something suspicious and not very honest.

    12. I also played Australian lottery (so-called Saturday TattsLotto) 6/46 at some Australian online lottery site. They charged me US$1 per ticket. Later I
    found out that this ticket really costs AUD $0.46 i.e. about US$0.30. I discovered it at the online site of the official agent of the Australian lotteries,
    prosperity or luck-e-lotto. I am now playing there paying only US$0.30 per ticket. They are at:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Hint: when registering there do not choose the jusidiction of Victoria , unless you want to pay a 10% sales tax additionally to ticket costs, AUD$0.46 per
    one..

    I also discovered that some sites like "lottoshop" charge even US$2.5 per this ticket.
     
  2. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Don't touch CyberThrill Casino - they are a scam. Check the facts by doing a search on CyberThrill Casino in AltaVista search engine.

    Two great lotteries are Australian lotteries at 30 cents US a game and the odds are great. Check out You must register/login in order to see the link. and also the International Red Cross Lottery where 2000 people will win US 1 million each; also great odds: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  3. Knapp

    Knapp Guest

    Can anyone tell me about Casino Trade Publications or Trade Associations for Casino Management?
    Thanks for your help! You can reply directly to my email at - This email is not visible to you.
     
  4. Markus

    Markus Guest

    Has anybody experience with Golden Chips Casinos? Like to check that before gambling at their site.

    Thanks
     
  5. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Dear Readers,

    I was concerned about the posting made by "anonymous" in "questionable online casinos" addressing the experience he/she had with
    Gaming Club's blackjack. I contacted the Gaming Club and promptly received the following response:

    Dear Bryan,

    Thank you for your interest in the casinos odds and fairness. We always
    take suggestions of this nature very seriously and as such, we'd like
    to let you know just how we approach winning percentages at our
    casino.

    We use a Random Number Generator in the running of all of our games.
    This ensures that no 'programming' advantage can be created on our
    side to favor the house, and also stops players from gaining an
    unfair advantage by counting cards or 'cracking the system', which is
    impossible if no such 'system' even exists.

    <,From a moral standpoint, cheating isn't something we have ever or would
    ever consider. Any income is made from a player's genuine luck of the
    draw and we don't envisage any acceptable incentive that would make us
    act to the contrary. Also, if we were to unfairly increase the odds in
    our favor it wouldn't be long before many players realized,
    complained and left. Being penny wise and pound foolish is not only
    unprofessional, but a very pointless business move, as every casino
    throughout the world already has a slight edge on the player.

    Of course you can't judge the player's winning percentage from
    a few hands of blackjack or a couple of spins of the roulette wheel.
    Winning works on averages and you need to try a fair number of hands
    or spins before you can truly judge whether our payouts are
    unsatisfactory or not. Unlucky streaks are just as common as lucky
    ones and the scale has to tip both ways at some stage.

    The casino is licensed in Curacao, where the government regulates all gaming
    activities to ensure that the company operates within the regulations. We
    are also well aware that the biggest concern raised by online casino
    players is that of whether the games they are playing are rigged or biased
    in any way. To counter this, we have taken the following steps:

    * Our Gaming systems (www.Microgaming.com) have been designed by experts in
    their fields, and have
    been thoroughly tested by independent third parties for randomness and
    fairness.

    * All of our expected payback percentages meet or (in most cases) exceed
    standard Nevada payouts. (After all, >,casino name<, have lower operating
    costs than our counterparts in Nevada, and we make sure that these savings
    are passed onto you in the form of better odds!)

    * All of our games have automatic save features, which protect you
    from being financially disadvantaged because of events such as lines going
    dead or their ISP losing the connection.

    * All of our transactions are encrypted using state-of-the-web encryption
    technology. This ensures your gaming cannot be tampered with in any way.

    * Complete audit trails are kept of ALL your transactions (date and time
    stamped) so disputes can be quickly analyzed
    and resolved.

    We hope that the following suitably answers your valid concerns. Should you
    have any further concerns, please contact me personally at
    This email is not visible to you.

    <,From all the staff, good luck with your gaming activities

    Yours truly

    The Pitboss
    THE GAMING CLUB
     
  6. T.West

    T.West Guest

    Has anyone tried Arctichouse's roulette software ?
    Like to hear more about it..

    Tom
     
  7. Pekka

    Pekka Guest

    Hi Tom,

    I have it (RA20FA) its kewl..
    The English Harbour's roulette sucks,
    (their gave me 14 zeros in 108 rounds !)
    but at least i can beat them now!
    nice piece of program from You must register/login in order to see the link.

    PK
     
  8. Anyone had a problem with CasinoFantasy bouncing their cheques?? I had two cheques bounce which means after charges, they, CasinoFantasy, owe me $398 AUD. They claim they will send me new cheques but so far I haven't heard from them.
    I will inform you all when and if they arrive and when and if they clear properly.
     
  9. Gene

    Gene Guest

    I am not a gambler. Still, about three months ago attracted by various posters I tried to gamble online. Never before I betted anywhere online nor on land. About a month ago I posted the previous version of this here. This is an updated version as I still continue to gamble small time never dreaming of hitting something big like $ 500 or more but rather looking to gain some $100 or 200. Here is the summary of my recent experience of playing online as on December 31, 1998. I think that somebody might be interested to learn it. Some of the gambling sites (casinos mostly) give away free money to entice you to gamble but not everyone of those does actually pay the winning if you happen to win on this free money. Yet some pay.

    1. You must register/login in order to see the link. - a free online lottery. To win one has to answer a question about the site and to guess at least 4 numbers in the real UK lottery (they admit it is a 1:1,000 probability). The questions are rather simple, you could find the answers right on the site. No fees, one entry per person. I won 250 Swiss francs ($190) and received the money within 10 days by wire to my bank. The play is sponsored and prizes are paid by www.pluslotto.com, a lottery system run by the International Red Cross Society. Funny, but I have never happened to win that much in the lotteries I paid for. I also played a lot at pluslotto, never winning anything big. I believe this is a place one could trust, winningpaymentwise.
    2. www.uslottery.com gave me free $25 to test the games. I played bingo, found the games lousy maybe because I just did not like bingo (my wife did a lot), but won $28, withdrew, got the check. The money was actually received. Later, about Christmas they again gave me free $25. We, me and my wife, played bingo, won and withdrew $ 13. Now we are expecting a check. I thing they could be trusted. However, recently they informed us that they are closing their business because of some court decision. They are Indians in Idaho. We have the wormiest memories of them.
    3. www.goodluckclub.com gave me free $25, I played roulette, found it good enough, won $80, received and cashed their check. I think they are very efficient and trustworthy. One could call them collect from anywhere in the world which is very important for me as I live in Russia. I would have gambled there more, but I could not.
    4. www.granddominican.com gave my wife a free $25, she played roulette, found it good, won and withdrew $50, received their check and mailed to our bank. Their site does not have a secure server for credit card transactions. Besides, their check was returned by our US bank with a notice "non-sufficient funds". That was quite a blow to my wife as there was our banks logo also, BankBoston, on the check. The bank charged her $5 for the returned item. My wife contacted Grand Dominican with this bad check problem, they said: it cant be and asked her to mailed the check back to them promising to refund her by wire. She did so. In the meantime her account was somehow erased from the casino database without her interference. Strange ! So she mailed the check back and now shes waiting for the results.
    5. www.fortunecasino.com gave me free $30 on my initial purchase of $
    20. I played roulette, found it good enough, won $120, received $20 back
    to my credit card and a check for $100. Mailed the check to my bank and got the money. They also provide an option of wiring winnings but I chose a check which was duly paid by my bank. Very efficient.
    6. www.mapau casino, a sister of #5, gave my wife a free $30 on her initial purchase of $ 20. She played roulette, found it good enough, lost all
    money.
    7. www.ccasino.com gave me free $50 on my initial purchase of $50. I played roulette, found it good enough, lost all money. I purchased $30 more, lost everything. My wife was also given free $50. She won and withdrew $70. She was credited $50 to her credit card (money received). Their check for $ 20 was received and mailed to her bank. Now she is expecting the results.
    8. www.firstlive.com gave me free $10, I played roulette on the site without any downloading, found it not too good (maybe because of my lousy ISP), won $26, received it to my card 3 weeks later. Then I purchased $20, won $30 (net $10), money received. Then I purchased $50, won $90, cash-inned $80. I got all the money due from there. On Christmas they gave every registered player a free $25. I received the money, gambled, lost. Probably, they are very close to the most perfect online casino I would have imaged. Instead of checks, every winning is paid to your credit card. I would like it be minutes instead of days, winningpaymentwise. That would be really excellent. I do not know why but all other online casinos could only pay to your credit card the amount historically deposited by this card. Excess is paid by checks.
    9. Englishharbor Casino gave me free $20 on my initial purchase of $20.
    I played roulette, found it good enough, lost all money instantly.
    10. Casino of South Pacific at www.cosp.com or www.sp.cosp.com. I had very bad experience here. The site is bad, service is no good, games are primitive, connection is very slow. The overall impression is
    disgusting. They gave me free 5 Swiss francs ($3), I played slots, won
    50, and after trying to get paid for three months I gave up. One is unable to withdraw the winnings which are in the pending category. My winnings were in the category. Only cleared winnings are allowed to withdraw. My e-mails are ignored. Besides, they say they charge 8 Sfr for a check. No good.
    11. I have never played the sister casinos of Cybervegas: Treasurehunter,
    Twinklingstar, Casino Manhattan etc. because I did not like the way they
    acted, like ignoring e-mails, suddenly changing their plans etc. My first impression of their acting was as of something very dubious. However, I played their online promotional lottery, won a T-shirt, and really received it from Canada by mail. Maybe, they are not so bad as they appear to be. Probably, they just need some good management.

    12. I also played Australian Saturday lottery (so-called Saturday TattsLotto) 6/46 at some Australian online lottery site. They charged me US$1 per ticket. Later I found out that this ticket really costs AUD $0.46 i.e. about US$0.30. I discovered it at the online site of the official agent
    of the Australian lotteries, prosperity or luck-e-lotto. I am now
    playing there paying only US$0.30 per ticket. I have never won there :). They are at:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Hint: when registering here , do not choose the jurisdiction of Victoria
    to avoid the payment of a 10% sale tax additionally to the cost of the
    ticket, AUD $0.46.

    WARNING: clicking on the above, registering and paying by you would lead to my account being credited with AUD $ 6.00 dollars (not, of cause, from your money). This is a promotional link. If you do not want me to be paid AUD $6.00, do not click there. Choose another way like: You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I also discovered that some sites charge even US$2.5 per this ticket.

    Of cause, the above supercharging Australia lottery sites provide some more service to clients: they sent you nice postcards by regular mail, you may withdraw your winnings by a check in US dollars (very convenient for small sum withdrawals). As to the site I mentioned, all transactions are done in Australian dollars. So, if you happen to win some AUD $20 and you want to get paid, the site is not for you. If you win thousands, then the currency problem should not worry you.

    This email is not visible to you.
    Please remove one "1" in my e-mail address to communicate.
     
  10. mary

    mary Dormant account

    This is an update to my problem with casin4fun. I was a winner of $1075. The site was a play for free site. I had a terrible time trying to get any response from anyone there. It took several weeks but, someone finally responded. The check still hasn't arrived and the site is "temporarily suspended". I've corresponded with others from that site and, they have't received their money either. I visited another casino that just opened almost at the exact time casino4fun went down. The latter site also was running a free contest. The software appeared to be the same software that had been used on casino4fun. Is it possible that casino4fun was using people to test their software? I won $100 on the other site and was given a choice to either accept the money or put it toward an account with them. I requested the money. I'll wait to see if I actually receive any money.
     
  11. I was wondering, with all of us so called expert gamblers out there, does anyone know who actually regulates the 'online casino' industry?
    I know a lot of them are in tax havens such as the Caribbean, but if they are US companies, (as many seem to be, with addresses in Nevada)is there a government department that regulates them and their operations?
    Is there a code of conduct they are required to abide by?
    Where is that code of conduct available to be read by you and me?
     
  12. Gary Bailey

    Gary Bailey Guest

    Hi,

    I played at three casinos.

    1. www.goldenhollywood.com. I won $80-00 after depositing $20-00. I got the $20-00 credited to my credit card and the $60-00 was sent by check. This arrived in two weeks. The support was great, I emailed them and got a response within 10 minutes. They have a secure credit card service.

    2. www.wallstreet-casino.com. I deposited $20-00. I won $35-00. I got the deposit credited to my credit card and a check 3 and a half weeks later.
    They have a secure online credit card service and good email support.

    3. www.ussportscasino.com. I got 10% of the $20-00 I depsoited. They give you 10% of the total amount you deposit. I did not win there, but I was really impressed with the games and graphics. I will play there again. They have a secure credit card service.
     
  13. You must register/login in order to see the link. gave my wife a free $25, she played roulette, found it good, won and withdrew $50, received their check and mailed to our bank. Their site does not have a secure server for credit card transactions. Besides, their check was returned by our US bank with a notice non-sufficient funds". That was quite a blow to my wife as there was our banks logo also, bank Boston, on the check. The bank charged her $5 for the returned item. My wife contacted Grand Dominican with this bad check problem, they said: it cant be and asked her to mailed the check back to them promising to refund her by wire. She did so. In the meantime her account was somehow erased from the casino database without her interference. Strange ! So she mailed the check back and now shes waiting for the results.

    *** Reply ***

    We would first like to apologize for any inconvenience regarding your wife's check. We would also like to stress that while researching this matter the bank is somewhat at a loss as to why this check was returned, as there were sufficient funds to cover it.

    As can be seen from the scanned Image of the check that your wife sent us, there is a 'stamped' message on the check from the bank that reads:

    [X]"Endorsement"

    Then immediately following the above, written by the bank it reads: Not As Drawn

    So the error, "Endorsement Not As Drawn" would appear from our research why the check was returned.

    The Grand Dominican is one of the oldest and most respected Casino's on the Internet, and our name and reputation is very important to us. Just as important, is the satisfaction of our players. This is also why all checks that we send out are certified Bank (Cashiers) Checks.

    As we have already mentioned to your wife, she will receive a wire for the full amount of the check, any bank fees, as well as FREE Credits at our Casino for her inconvenience. As of this date, 1-5-98 it has not been received.

    We on the other hand will continue to investigate this situation thoroughly.

    Please let us know if there is anything else that we can do.

    This email is not visible to you.
     
  14. Markus

    Markus Guest

    Its strange that there are only few online casinos providing information about theire betting limits before you are opening an account.

    At the GrandDominican i.e. theire is not even an e-mail adress to ask for that information.

    They should know that such information is checked before starting gambling.
     
  15. Mudman

    Mudman Guest

    Can anyone reccomend an online casino good for video poker (I am looking for a full pay $1 deuces wild machine) which does not require a software download? I am interested in sites whose games live as Java applets in your web browser.

    Has anyone had experience with online video poker that they felt was somehow rigged? Is there a chance that natural royal flushes do not occur with a normal frequency?

    Thank you for any information in advance.

    -Mudman
     
  16. Coby

    Coby Guest

    Which Casino's offer Webmaster Payout programs, and pay?

    This email is not visible to you.
     
  17. Gary

    Gary Guest

    I am registered with two Webmaster programs that are good.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Otherwise you could check out this site where they have info on various casinos, their latest news and rankings etc. They also inform you of new casinos etc.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  18. Well, just to add my 2 cents worth. I have played at The Grand Dominican on and off for about 8 months now. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. I have received 4 checks from them during all the time I have been playing. I have never had a problem.

    As for the guy that said he did not know where email them at, please, everywhere you go there are email or support links.

    Jennifer
     
  19. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    What do you do if you win and live in the US as I do?

    I played at an online casino, won $2500, cashed out, they e-mailed me, I chose a check. After the fact, I find out that online gambling is illegal in the US (I guess).

    However, I know people in the US are doing it (the casino sent me a December newsletter with their top winners: 18 of the 20 were in the US).

    Are any authorities really trying to police this stuff? Do people in the US go ahead and cash these checks? How do bank wires work--better than a check?

    No paranoia here--just concern.
     
  20. Gene

    Gene Guest

    This is a follow-up of my previous posting about my online gambling experience where I complained about the Grand Dominican paying to my wife her winnings by a bad check for $50. This check was mailed back to them in mid December with the request to wire $55 to my wife's account. I confirm that as on January 15 a sum of $70 arrived to her account.

    Please remove one "1" in my e-mail address to communicate.
     

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