Anything here?

zman

Dormant account
Dealer [ 5h Th 7s ] (22)
player [ Ks 2d 8c ] (20)
player bet $2, collected $4, net +$2
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Dealer [ Ks Jh ] (20)
player [ 9h 2c 7d ] (18)
player lost $4
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Dealer [ 3c 7h 9h ] (19)
player [ Th 8h ] (18)
player lost $4
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Dealer [ 2h 3s 5s 7d ] (17)
player [ Th 3d ] (13)
player lost $10
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Dealer [ 9h 3d 2h 5s ] (19)
player [ Ad 6d ] (17)
player lost $14
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Dealer [ Jd Qh ] (20)
player [ 2c Ad 3c 2c ] (18)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 6d 7s 8h ] (21)
player [ 2s 5d 8h Ah 5d ] (21)
player bet $25, collected $25, net +$0
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Dealer [ 5h 7s 4c Jc ] (26)
player [ 7c Js ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 7c 5d Qd ] (22)
player [ 9s 8s ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 4c 8d 9s ] (21)
player [ 2h As Ac Qh 4s ] (18)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ 5h 4d 7s 5c ] (21)
player [ Jc 9h ] (19)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ 7d Td ] (17)
player [ 9h 9c ] (18)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 3c 8d Kc ] (21)
player [ 2d Ks 7h ] (19)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Js Qd ] (20)
player [ 8c 9h ] (17)
player lost $2
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Dealer [ 6c 4s As ] (21)
player [ 6d 6h ] (12)
player lost $48
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Dealer [ Ad 8d ] (19)
player [ 2c Kc 2s 5s ] (19)
player bet $50, collected $50, net +$0
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Dealer [ Ts 2h 2h Kd ] (24)
player [ Kc 5c ] (15)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ 5c 5h 9d ] (19)
player [ Jd Kd ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ 9c 6c 9c ] (24)
player [ Jc Tc ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qh Kd ] (20)
player [ Qs 8s ] (18)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 4h Td ] (14)
player [ Ad 4d Kh Kc ] (25)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3c Jh 4d ] (17)
player [ 9d 4h 7h ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qd 8h ] (18)
player [ 7d 4d 8c ] (19)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Js Ac ] (21)
player [ 7c Kh ] (17)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3d 3s ] (6)
player [ Jc Ah ] (21)
player bet $50, collected $125, net +$75
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Dealer [ 6c 5d Td ] (21)
player [ Kd Jd ] (20)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Qh 8c ] (18)
player [ 5s 3h Ad ] (19)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qh Qs ] (20)
player [ As 7s ] (18)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s 8c 9h ] (20)
player [ Td 7c ] (17)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Ad 7h ] (18)
player [ Jd Td ] (20)
player bet $75, collected $150, net +$75
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Dealer [ As Th ] (21)
player [ 5s 5d ] (10)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s 3h 8h 7d ] (21)
player [ Kh 3s ] (13)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Kc 3h 9c ] (22)
player [ 2c 8c 4h ] (14)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ As 2s 4s 8s 9s ] (24)
player [ 4d 7d 5s ] (16)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Tc 8d ] (18)
player [ 3c As 2d As Qh ] (17)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Ad Ah Jh 8c ] (20)
player [ Tc Ts ] (20)
player bet $37.50, collected $25, net -$12.50
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Dealer [ 6h Jc Jd ] (26)
player [ 3d Qh Ah 6h ] (20)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 8c 5c 9h ] (22)
player [ Qc 4h ] (14)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 5c 4s Qc ] (19)
player [ 3d 4c Qc ] (17)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Ks 6s Qd ] (26)
player [ 3d 2s 5s 7h ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ Td 2d 8d ] (20)
player [ Jh Qc ] (20)
player bet $25, collected $25, net +$0
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Dealer [ Ad Ad 2s 4h ] (18)
player [ 9c Qs ] (19)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ Qh Js ] (20)
player [ 6s 3c 5s 4c ] (18)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Qc Js ] (20)
player [ Td 4d ] (14)
player bet $25, collected $12.50, net -$12.50
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Dealer [ Qh 6h Js ] (26)
player [ 6d Kc ] (16)
player bet $20, collected $40, net +$20
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Dealer [ Th Ac ] (21)
player [ 5c 6h ] (11)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 8d 8h 2s ] (18)
player [ 8h 4s 7s ] (19)
player bet $20, collected $40, net +$20
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Dealer [ 4d 7d 3d 5s ] (19)
player [ 4d 3c Qh ] (17)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 5c 5h Ks ] (20)
player [ 2d Jd ] (12)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 4c 5h Qd ] (19)
player [ Qh 6h ] (16)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 3h 7s ] (10)
player [ 2s Td Qh ] (22)
player lost $60
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Dealer [ 6h Qh 4h ] (20)
player [ 4d Qs 6h ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $50, net +$0
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Dealer [ Qh 3h Jd ] (23)
player [ Kc 5c ] (15)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Td Kd ] (20)
player [ Jh 3s Qd ] (23)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s Kh Qh ] (23)
player [ 5c 6c 9c ] (20)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Ad 8d ] (19)
player [ Th 7h ] (17)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 2s Kh 5d ] (17)
player [ Ks 7c ] (17)
player bet $100, collected $100, net +$0
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Dealer [ 6d Js Jd ] (26)
player [ Ac 7h ] (18)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Kh Ts ] (20)
player [ 8c Ts ] (18)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ Qh 5d ] (15)
player [ Qd Ad ] (21)
player bet $100, collected $250, net +$150
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Dealer [ Ah 2s 9d 8s ] (20)
player [ 3s 9c 3d ] (15)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ As Jc ] (21)
player [ 8h 7c ] (15)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 3s 2h 8d As 2s 3s ] (19)
player [ Qs 3h ] (13)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 4d As Qd 9h ] (24)
player [ 8s 9s ] (17)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ 6d Jc ] (16)
player [ 7d 9s ] (16)
player bet $100, collected $50, net -$50
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Dealer [ Th Kd ] (20)
player [ 8h 9c ] (17)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 4c Jc 7h ] (21)
player [ Qs 8d ] (18)
player lost $100
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zman

Dormant account
13/67 dealer had 21
16/67 dealer had 20

Can anyone work out the % of having 29/67 with dealer having 20 and above.

This was at the BJ section of paradise poker.
 

eek

Dormant account
The odds of 20/21 vary with the dealer upcard.

I make the average to be around 26.8% for 20/21

You got 43%, but it is a very small sample, you really need two or three hundred hands on a single session to do some decent digging with the stats.
 

zman

Dormant account
WTF they sent me a reply.

They said after each deal, the full shoe of 8 decks is reshuffled...... :eek:
 

mgibson99

Dormant account
I did this very quickly in my head (so the numbers might be a little off), but it looks like you had 30 wins/pushes out of 67 hands. You bet about $3200, and ending up losing about $200. You were placing reasonably large bets (many at $100 per hand).....you won some, you lost some.

On the hands where you bet $50 or more you basically were 50-50 (wins/pushes vs losses). This would seem to alleviate the fear (unfounded in reputable casinos) that we sometimes hear about casinos "flipping the switch" when bets are increased.

A little bad luck? Yes. Suspicious? Not at all from what you've shown us. I've seen (and experienced) much worse at land based and on line casinos.
 
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GrandMaster

Ueber Meister
CAG
zman said:
13/67 dealer had 21
16/67 dealer had 20

Can anyone work out the % of having 29/67 with dealer having 20 and above.

This was at the BJ section of paradise poker.
The probability of the dealer getting 20 or 21, including BJ, is about 30%.
The exact probability depends on the number of decks and whether the dealer sits soft 17 or not.
 

vgyhnji

Experienced Member
If you ever want to see the dealer get hatfuls of 20, 21 and BJ's then just go play at Odds On (English Harbour etc).

One day when I have money and time to waste I shall put together some serious stats for that software - I am sure it will not make good reading! :eek:
 
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