Anyone buy a new dishwasher lately?

[Mousey]

My Kenmore dishwasher was 25 years old and so noisy I couldn't think while it was running. Couldn't hear TV or carry on a phone conversation in the next room. (Imagine an 18 wheeler truck with a refrigerator trailer idling in your kitchen for 55 minutes.) Plus the rinse agent thingy had broken. And the wheels on top rack were coming off one by one. Gah! Prices for new were not what I expected. Ouch. Features are either non existent or they're so complicated they'd force a rocket scientist to tears (and insanely expensive). *heavy sigh* I wanted simple, but not cheap, something efficient, and quiet. So I shopped.

For my birthday I bought new fangled dishwasher. It's nothing fancy. It won't wash the floors or feed the cats, but it IS supposed to wash and dry the dishes. Note "supposed to".

I read everything I was supposed to read: How to load it. Preferred water temp. Brand/type of pod detergent and rinse agent. Best settings to use, etc., etc.

Dang thing dries the dishes but leaves inside of the tub wet. Can we say "mold"?

Will NOT clean peanut butter off of anything. I've tried both leaving more peanut butter on and another time wiping as much off as I could with a paper towel before washing. Doesn't matter. Still find little icky goopy peanut butter spots on whatever spoon or knife was used for spreading this vile food (which I love). ewwwwwww

Thing runs anywhere from 2.5 hours to 3 hours on Normal wash w/heat dry. Ummm... this is 'normal' for today's dishwashers but... this is energy efficient??

Clear drinking glasses which had no white film on them before New Dishwasher, now have a 'nice' dull film on them.

So... what have I got? A fancy schmancy pretty dishwasher that will grow mold like a champ, help me lose weight by forcing me to stop eating fattening peanut butter, run my power bill up while emanating 'I'm saving you moneeeyyy' vibes into my brain, and make me throw away all my old drinking glasses and buy new ones every month.

But.... is IS very quiet.

 

[goatwack]

I have an excellent dishwasher.






It's called my girlfriend

 

[Harry_BKK]

You made my day Mousey.... your post is humour at its best......still laughing

Shows that modern appliances are not always better.

BTW, the white film on your glasses is scale, most water supplies in cities have the issue of scaling. I need to descale my coffee machine every 4 weeks because of that. Try changing the or add a descaling capsule and you should be ok.

 

[Jasminebed]

I would suggest checking that it is level front to back and side to side. This could be part of your drainage problem. It is normal to have some water left in the bottom to keep the pump ready.

Most major manufacturers have a help line on their website. Contact them.

I've had best cleaning results from old fashioned powdered detergents, together with a rinse agent.

Does seem like a really long time to do a load of dishes however.

 

[Mousey]

I would suggest checking that it is level front to back and side to side. This could be part of your drainage problem. It is normal to have some water left in the bottom to keep the pump ready.

Most major manufacturers have a help line on their website. Contact them.

I've had best cleaning results from old fashioned powdered detergents, together with a rinse agent.

Does seem like a really long time to do a load of dishes however.

Thing 'tis level. Ticked the plumber off by checking it myself before they bolted everything down. Drains just fine. Just leaves water droplets on walls of inside. Imagine the shower stall walls right after you've had a nice hot shower.

Thing shouldn't be leaving a film when the old glasses don't have any when I put them in. Will try increasing rinse agent setting slightly. Old dishwasher didn't film up my glasses... (mumble mumble mutter grumble)

Normal cycle for this dishwasher is anywhere from 2.4 to 4 hours. I suppose if I chose the Heavy Duty wash it would wash all night.

If glasses continue to film up I'll have to try different detergent - even though the manufacturer recommends Cascade.

If I'd bought the cheapest dishwasher available it wouldn't bug me nearly as bad.

 

[jetset]

Thanks for a good early morning chuckle here Mousey - not regarding your hassles, but at the way you have described them.

 

[dunover]

Sounds like the water inside isn't hot enough?
The last rinse should be just boiling water - it sterilizes and heats items up, so they dry while the last pause is in place before the door opens.

A great idea! Cover the plates in all your favourites, say peanut butter and peas etc. and when the door opens you've made your ready-to-eat steaming hot favourite soup! Ladle from the bottom, there's your starter sorted!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Sorry to hear about your recent dissues (disheus/disshues/dish-use) (sorry for the cheesy interpunction)
Cant offer much help, but one trick may help to get your stuff dryer: when the program is done, open the door to let out most of the built up steam, then close it and wait for an hour. Afterwards, everything should be dry as a bone, and the glasses always shone brighter when we did this. We used to do it in various places i used to server and/or cook, to save ourselves the trouble of having to dry the glasses and cutlery with a cloth....

It does work on most Industrial machines, lemme know if it works for you ^.^

 

[Mousey]

For anyone interested in the continuing saga of Mousey's Fancy Dishwasher Debacle, I phoned customer support. (Let's all begin laughing now and get that out of the way.)

Nice lady with thick accent of some sort says (reading dutifully from her script): "Some condensation on the tub walls is normal after the cycle is complete."

My reply: "I use my dishwasher once every 7 to 10 days. Do you think that's long enough to grow mushrooms?" She didn't get the joke.

As to my Insidious Peanut Butter problem, she says (reading from her script again - I could hear her feverishly thumbing through a notebook): "Please use the recommended detergent and rinse agent for best results." (I'd already told her I was using the recommended products.) If it continues to be a problem, place the item nearer the detergent dispenser and be sure the silverware isn't nesting (she went on to explain this term for me, still reading from her script)."

And then she thumbed through some more pages and reminded me that ideal water temperature coming into the dishwasher is 120 degrees. The plumber dutifully checked said water temperature after install and declared it to be 130 degrees. And I always run hot water into the sink to make sure it's nice and hot before turning dishwasher on.

We parted on good terms, each wishing the other a Nice Day. She thinking she (and her script) had helped and me thinking I need to call again at another time of day.

So.... well.... there we are. I still don't know if I can grow a good crop of mushrooms between washings.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Mousey, that is just hilarious

A new appliance should be a big improvement to the old one, which it is clearly not in your case.

I do feel sorry for you but also for the support agents. They usually never get even close to this appliances to be able to give you an informed answer. They only read sentences from a script.

I remember my mum experiencing similar things with her washing machine and TV set. Both were from good old German producers Bauherr and Grundig and lasted well over 25 years. In the past 8 years we exchanged the washing machine twice and the TV three times. You would think that with the advance in technology they should last at least the same as the old ones but that was not the case. Go figure

 

[Janek12]

I had two machines in my life - Indesit (Italian) and now Bosch (German).

It is interesting for me to note the differences between European and US dishwashers:

1) The water that goes into the dishwasher had to be cold with both machines - the dishwasher heats the water itself according to the chosen washing programme.

2) With both dishwashers, the trick to get the best result was to partly open the dishwasher's door as soon as possible after it finished washing - in order to catch the moment when the water on the dishes was still hot. If I open it soon enough, both the plates and the inside of the dishwasher dry quickly and fine - no water residue anywhere.

3) The Bosch dishwasher has three racks - the top rack is just a few centimeters high and is solely for cutlery and it washes the cutlery really well. There is a narrow separate place for each piece of cutlery - and it is amazing, it is capable of accomodating perhaps fifty pieces without the pieces touching each other.

Sorry I do not have any useful advice, these are just some tips based on my experience for when you buy a new dishwasher next time .