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Anybody know, is it illegal to gamble in Washington (State) USA

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by TheBayUser, Jul 20, 2006.

    Jul 20, 2006
  1. TheBayUser

    TheBayUser Dormant account

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    I heard from a friend today that it is a class b felony to gamble for real money in Washington (State) USA. does anyone know if this is true?
     
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  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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  5. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

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    Yes it is my friend

    You get caught playing a poker game or any type of online casino game at your house and you might end up in front of a jury that might decide you deserve an equal treatment as a rapist or some one who comitted arm robbery...

    Careful
     
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  7. NoMouthToScream

    NoMouthToScream Experienced Member

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    Does anyone have the link to the actual law and how it is stated?

    Sorry to Hijack this thread, but does anyone know if there are any lobbyists in Washington trying to fix this?
     
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  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    And

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    The latter URL has links to who voted for it, who voted against, etc...

    [edit]You can usually find this stuff by going to xxhttp://www.state.[statecode].us and searching from there..ie: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  11. TheBayUser

    TheBayUser Dormant account

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    This country and this damn state especially the politicians are crooks. As we all probably know. They treat us like adolescents, and feel that we need someone to make decisions for us, thanks USA. I need to find a job in the Caribbean :), I guess that could be a f/t online gambler.
     
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  13. MSWILS411

    MSWILS411 Dormant account

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    wait a minute ARE YOU SUre Guys//

    I used to live in Bremerton wa. Before that Everett Wa. Hubby was military. It all depends on where you live say for instance I took my laptop and went to paulsbo logged on won a million dollars they cannot touch me, I used to go to the bowlinng alley right there in silverdale go upstairs play blackjack all day. Go to tulalip casino . Now My mom whom lives in spokane. she has won many times off online casino and has them sometimes send her a check and never once has had a problem. Now unless shes just been glideing through without getting caught, But why can you not gamble online but you can out in town
     
  14. Jul 21, 2006
  15. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

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    3 Hours north, the safe confines of Canada.:)
     
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  17. wangpoker

    wangpoker Experienced Member PABnononaccred2 webmeister

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    I think stephen harper will follow US if he's in office the next term.
     
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  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Re: Blackjack: This law doesn't apply to anything offline.

    Re: Your mom winning online: If they catch her for whatever reason, she will be prosecuted. It's now a felony.

    Re: Not being able to gamble online, but still gamble offline: You'd have to ask your congressman or the Governor himself to figure that one out :)

    This was just passed recently.

    [edit]I'd seriously consider persuading her not to gamble online anymore. I could almost bet that banks are now instructed to report transactions (physical checks & ACH transfers originating overseas, Neteller(?), etc(?)) to accounts within WA. Not sure, but how else would they plan on arresting people? There's always going to be a paper trail.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they were also instructed to block transactions from Neteller, Moneybookers, etc. I know for a fact that you already can't get a Neteller account if you live in Maryland. Seeing as how 99.9% of their business is in Casino transactions, maybe they'll be proactive about it and add Washington to their banned list.
     
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  21. nelvitt

    nelvitt Dormant account

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    WA banks are not banned from neteller. I have a friend who lives in WA who gambles online without any problem. From what I hear the law was meant to go after websites and referral services based in WA. Also, a friend of mine just recently cashed a check from pokerstars in WA. It is just a check, it doesnt have any insignia from the website or anything like that.
     
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  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Take it as you will, but it's still a felony, and to keep doing it just increases your chances of getting caught IMHO. ;)

    If the law was *only* meant to go after websites and referral services based in WA, it wouldn't include verbage for those that gamble online.

    They'll figure out a way to find the people that are gambling online, and then let the convictions begin.
     
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  25. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

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    Washington

    Washington new laws apply especifically to online gambling.

    Not only poker. Sports, casino, bingo. All types of online gambling performed from Washington are restricted.

    It has become a felony that can be punished with up to 6 years in prison. Basically you can be caught DUI and you will get better treatment than a gambler...

    Damn, we are such a cancer to society.... Dunno why, but we are...

    jajajaj I really know why... but thats not the question here...
     
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  27. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Don't forget about the (up to) $10,000 fine....and don't count on using your winnings to pay it, as I'm sure it'll be confiscated.
     
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  29. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    I wonder how long it will be before Washington state summons up the will to start prosecuting individual residents for online gambling - that's a big step which may have wide electoral consequences for Mde Gregoire and her legislators.

    They may take a leaf out of the DoJ's book and try and nail a couple of people, giving the arrests plenty of publicity to cow everyone else into submission and make sure they do their gambling in state approved venues like Indian casinos!
     
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  31. nelvitt

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    There is no way for Washington State to enforce this law without breaking the constitution, which would include tapping peoples internet access etc... No one IMHO will ever be prosecuted, and if they are they will be able to easily have the charges dropped.

    What I thought was even funnier is that this law was brought up by a representative from Renton, WA. Renton is a neighborhood known for the vast amount of non-tribal casinos. Obviously she was paid off by someone with other interests...
     
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  33. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    If they have probable cause (via a tip from someone, etc), all they would need to do is summon logs from that person's ISP, as well as bank records. That's all they'd need to make a strong case against someone.
     
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  35. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    If they have probable cause (via a tip from someone, etc), all they would need to do is summon logs from that person's ISP, as well as bank records. The person in question had better be able to account for every deposit made, and where it came from. That's all they'd need to make a strong case against someone.
     
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  37. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

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    Ever hear of the Patriot Act?

    All the US JOD has to say (not prove mind you, just say) is that the online gambler is funding terror and they can do perdy much whatever they want, access ALL your records and take actions up to and including secretly breaking into your home when your not there so they can plant nasty little bugs in your house, on your phones and computers.

    Oh and by the by, opponents of online gambling have already been accusing online casinos of funding terror...

    “...easily have the charges dropped”... You have never had any experience with our American legal system I see... :)
     
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  39. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    And when they do get the warrant, they don't even need to knock before breaking down your door :thumbsup:
     

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