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Anybody Know If Ewalletxpress Will Ever Pay Out

Discussion in 'Payment Processing Issues' started by mcd68024, Mar 14, 2012.

    Mar 14, 2012
  1. mcd68024

    mcd68024 Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    This may be old news but I had over $9000 in my ewalletxpress account when it was seized by the feds more than a year ago and still haven't gotten a penny of that money. Talking with them repeated times was a useless waste of time and now it looks as though their website isn't even up anymore. Haven't been able to find any updates online. Anybody know anything? Had $1600 stolen from me when UseMyWallet was closed down because I couldn't get a euro denominated account. Does kind of get old after awhile.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2012
  3. LHofsdal

    LHofsdal Ueber Meister MM

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    I to had almost 10 grand in my account when EwalletXpress was seized. I pretty much gave it up to a loss. Support at EwalletXpress has been giving the same old "script" since it was taken over by the DOJ. If the poker site that were seized can pay the players the money they had in their accounts, there is no logical reason that EwalletXpress could not do the same thing.

    They took our money and it is gone. I do not think that there is anything we can do at this point.

    LH
     
  4. Mar 15, 2012
  5. all4greed

    all4greed Now we can do business.

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    The website disappeared before and came back but I doubt it will this time. I think the money is long gone and there is a lot more to the story than the average person will ever know.

    There was a poker website I was checking in with where people were actively discussing EWE as of October of last year. Can't find it now and I lost my bookmarks by getting another computer.

    There was a thread with a phone number to someone in Maryland that knew about the seizure.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2012
  7. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    what does this mean?

    I went to EWX site and instead of a blank page or do not exist, I got the following:

    Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access / on this server.


    Anyone know what this means?
     
  8. Mar 15, 2012
  9. cheetahwind

    cheetahwind Dormant account

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    Basically the web site has been deleted and they forgot to throw a page up for the web server to display. So instead you got a server error message. I'm pretty sure they haven't been paying for there hosting for quite some time, so I"m pretty sure there hosting provider decided to finally get rid of old garbage.
     
  10. Mar 15, 2012
  11. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

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    Even if you had a euro account for usemywallet you still only had 50/50 chance of getting paid… They still owe me a boat load of money, and they all disappeared now.. No where to find them..
     
  12. Mar 15, 2012
  13. LHofsdal

    LHofsdal Ueber Meister MM

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    The number I have for them, taken off a screen shot I made of my account a few months ago is 1-888-989-0071. I have tried calling it just for the heck of it, but no matter what time I call I always get a busy signal.

    So yes, I think they are gone now.

    LH
     
  14. Mar 16, 2012
  15. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    can you find a phone number for Navaho Networks in Canada? 170 University Avenue. Suite 602. Toronto, ON M5H 3B3. Canada is now shown as paycasso corp. This is the same address as listed for Navaho Networks and ewalletexpress. Possibly the company has been renamed. check out this link [URL="http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=110951376&targetid=profile

    Worth giving them a call.
     
  16. Mar 16, 2012
  17. mcd68024

    mcd68024 Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    If the feds were the ones who seized the money shouldn't we be able to contact the feds to see where the money is? Would that be a viable idea and if so who would you contact? My understanding was that regular players were not breaking the UIGEA only the payment processors. If that's so I would have nothing to hide. Isn't there due process?
     
  18. Mar 16, 2012
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Well, the feds can't have seized EVERYTHING, and unlike every other seizure, there has been no sign of progress in negotiating a repatriation of money to customers in exchange for undertakings to stay out of the US and repay as fines any profits made from illegal activities.

    What about the Canadian customers? They nor EWX were breaking UIGEA, so there was never any question of this money being forfeit.

    What about that time when all EWX customers received an email about "$50 in your account", only to find that a casino was being promoted on the EWX website with a $50 free chip.

    These are the kinds of things that make it look like EWX "did a runner" with at least some of the money belonging to customers, and are not going to start negotiating with the DoJ to return it to the customers.

    In addition, it seems even the DoJ have gone very quiet over the whole affair, as though there is far more to this than the usual bust and seizure of a processor. Casino operators seemed to know well in advance that something was seriously wrong, yet whilst this information was not in the public domain, were still processing players' withdrawals to EWX knowing full well that these players would probably never see this money.
    It is possible this is now a "secret" ongoing investigation, and the DoJ are saying nothing in public, but may pounce suddenly with a rash of indictments. The other possibilty is that EWX was just another Linwood, and had served it's purpose, so it simply vanished, with the seizure not being genuine, but designed as a cover story to be found out by anyone who persisted in digging for answers.

    One operator was put on the spot over this, and although our speculation was spot on, said he knew what had happened, but could not say a thing due to some undisclosed "sword hanging over his head" should he spill the beans. This delay caused many players to needlessly lose money, as had they known EWX was pretty much dead, they would NEVER have agreed to any of their withdrawals being sent there, even if this meant sitting tight and leaving the money in their casino accounts, and withdrawing it after EWX was no longer a listed option, and to a different method.
    It seems as though the casinos wanted to get rid of the liabilty by railroading players into having their money sent to EWX, and needed to do so before the seizure became public knowledge. Some players did spot the BS and held firm, and once EWX's seizure became public, the casinos were left liable to pay by a more realistic alternative means.
     
  20. Mar 16, 2012
  21. LHofsdal

    LHofsdal Ueber Meister MM

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    There was nothing made public about this. Nothing from EWX or the DOJ. After months of the "technical difficulties" crap, EWX did put up on thier website that they were seized by the DOJ and were taken actions to work with them and hopefully return everyones money. That was over a year ago.

    The DOJ has made nothing public, there is nothing on their web site or have they made a public statement about it. When Neteller was taken and when they took over the 3 biggest poker sites it was all over the news. But yet one of the biggest processors goes down and they say nothing. I read somewhere were someone did actually call the DOJ in Maryland, and they did say it was seized but that they were under the impression that EWX was planning on returning all monies owed to all customers. That too was almost a year ago.

    There is nothing on Paycasso, from what I can gather is that someone applied for a trademark and never followed through with it. I found some stuff on them on the US trademark site, and the last thing was a letter of abandonment. The lawyers for this company are based out of Chicago. As fo finding phone numbers, I can not find anything.

    I am pretty sure EWX took everyones money and ran. At this point, there is nothing anyone can do.

    LH
     
  22. Mar 18, 2012
  23. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    The Feds seized the money from the processor. Your claim to the money is from the processor. Any hope of getting it would be from the processor. You might be able to file a civil suit to get the money. But that would have to be done in Canada, where they were based. I would assume they have already filed for bankruptcy. You might check that out.

    However, as I said in my previous post, I think they reorganized under a new name, as the address of the new payment processing company listed in my previous post is the exact same address Navaho Networks/Ewalletxpress listed. Navaho Networks also seems to have gone MIA probably because Ewalletx was one of their subsidiaries. Why don't you try calling that company, act stupid and say "I'm sorry I thought this was the number for EwalletXpress" see what they say.

    Unfortunately, players should have immediately disputed their deposits to Ewallet Express up to what was in their account when the news broke, it is way too late to do that now.

    If you decide to contact the DOJ besure to contact the office that handled the case and I would only ask if they could provide you with information on how to collect the funds that were in your account at the time. Can't hurt to try.
     
  24. Mar 18, 2012
  25. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    my recollection

    I seem to recall that Bryan confirmed that EWX was seized by the gov't, or am I confusing this with Quicktender? (or just completely confused--would be nothing new :) )
     
  26. Mar 18, 2012
  27. LHofsdal

    LHofsdal Ueber Meister MM

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    Paycasso is not that new, they applied for a trademark in 2007. Here is some information I found on them.

    On Thursday, June 14, 2007, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for PAYCASSO by Paycasso Corporation, Toronto M5H3B3. The USPTO has given the PAYCASSO trademark serial number of 77206499. The current federal status of this trademark filing is ABANDONED-FAILURE TO RESPOND OR LATE RESPONSE. The correspondent listed for PAYCASSO is DAVID J. DAVIS of BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP, 130 E RANDOLPH ST STE 3500, CHICAGO, IL 60601-6314 . The PAYCASSO trademark is filed in the category of Advertising, Business & Retail Services , Insurance & Financial Services , Communications Services , Transportation & Storage Services , Education and Entertainment Services . The description provided to the USPTO for PAYCASSO is Promoting the services of mobile commerce and payment solutions, cashless electronic payment software and cashless electronic payment services through the administration of consumer loyalty incentive award programs for others; sales promotions services relating to mobile commerce and payment solutions, cashless electronic payment software and cashless electronic payment services through the administration of consumer loyalty incentive award programs; administration, billing and reconciliation of.

    There is no website for them either. No phone numbers just that of the lawyers who are based in Chicago. I don't think this company exists anymore. I don't think anyone should get their hopes up, I think the money we (CM members who had money in EWX) is gone. IF and that is a big IF, someday I get an e-mail stating the money has been sent, I will happy as can be. But I really don't see that happening.

    LH
     
  28. Mar 18, 2012
  29. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    The link I posted previously in this thread has completly different info and is more current than the information yoiu posted. Plus I did find the website.
     
  30. Mar 18, 2012
  31. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    Here is the phone number You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  32. Mar 18, 2012
  33. all4greed

    all4greed Now we can do business.

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    Worth a try, thanks. From Linkedln:
     

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