Another one down.. (4, actually, Whole Bovada group, cafecasino.lv, ignitioncasino.eu, slots.lv, bo

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The eagle got Kevin!
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And another (group) bites the dust for me.

Y'all? I'm on a cut and burn mission lately and loving it. You know how you lose thousands and say hey, I really need a comp here and get told "we don't give ndb's"? Yeah, me either .But Daria at cafecasino.lv did just that. Bovada offered $50 (I haven't cashed out in a year or more there, if that). Slots.lv? Ignition.eu? No effs given over losing me. Again, thousands paid in. "Loyal." Enthusiastic, even.

Intriguingly, after telling support to exclude me, they "closed my account as requested, please don't hesitate to contact us if you want to reopen your account."

So. Who's next? Lol

Also, KasinoKing? Take note. They're slow pay, don't give AF about their loyal players (15 years or so at Bovada, 10-ish at slots.lv), and tho I'm just a player, I would never rec them
 

zreb

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Any more info on the slowpay - how bad are we talking here? Couple days, couple weeks, were they giving you other trouble? Did they give a reason?

Bovada group is a bit worrisome because their terms basically give them the "right" to take away your money for just about any reason at all if they decide they don't like your play, but in practice I haven't seen or read about cases of them actually doing that. (Unless the player was doing something obviously dumb.)

I thought they were a decent option if you're looking for a rival casino to play, but that's in part because i haven't exactly seen any other good options. If anyone has a good rival casino to recommend, I'd appreciate it, because I don't think they really exist... I would try the sloto/deckmedia ones but I don't like credit card deposits. My experience with superior casino has been pretty bad and most of the other ones I've looked into seem lacking in trustworthiness.

To be fair, I can understand being frustrated at losses, but of all the bad options we have facing us for US casinos, support being too stingy to give a comp would not be a dealbreaker for me. I assume you at least get the cashback on losses they offer? It's not much but it's something.

But yeah I've thought bovada group were a "decent" option for US players but that's largely because most of the other options are even worse. I don't think I can name a US facing casino I could recommend to anyone without some kind of reservation.
 

Savatage79

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I still say slotocash is by far the best. I've not only hit on sloto more than any of the others but it's truly a quick no fuss no muss day or so processing and I have my check overnight, that's reasonable to me. It's always a smooth transaction and their rtp just seems higher than most.

I am bout ready to close my brango, extreme and inetbet accounts tho... Not sure if we can cuss here but just fucking hell, what's the point when they're so tight that it's zero fun.
 

zreb

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An interesting note, inetbet publishes their payout percentages... but they stopped updating in 2016? And it was ~94% before they stopped updating it... could it be even worse now? (See here:
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Brango, extreme, and sloto don't publish their payout percentages or audits of any kind as far as I'm aware. I've asked chat reps at casinomax and intertops what rtp their games run at, and the answers i got were higher than what I found listed at the sites. Casinomax chat rep told me that they run at 95-96% rtp and that that's the highest available option (didn't it used to be 97.5% was the highest option?), but the fair gaming section on the website says the past year paid out ~94%. Intertops told me they run at 97%, but their audited numbers show 94% as well.

So that's RTG for you, and some of those are supposed to be the "good" sites. It could be theoretically possible that the casinomax numbers were just a result of very unlucky players, I would be curious if they have an answer since they're pretty active here. The intertops chat was definitely lying to me though, which seems pretty weird, and I suspect isn't an isolated case. Casino extreme told me 96% as well but I don't believe that at all. I guess you can't even trust the chat reps to give you an honest answer.

Going to pass this along to @Karolina-CasinoMax this to see if there's any explanation. (Was actually thinking of making a thread about this at some point, but wanted to send along a pm beforehand. But since it's relevant here, oh well, good enough.)
 

Karolina-CasinoMax

Accredited Casino Representative
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UK
An interesting note, inetbet publishes their payout percentages... but they stopped updating in 2016? And it was ~94% before they stopped updating it... could it be even worse now? (See here:
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
)

Brango, extreme, and sloto don't publish their payout percentages or audits of any kind as far as I'm aware. I've asked chat reps at casinomax and intertops what rtp their games run at, and the answers i got were higher than what I found listed at the sites. Casinomax chat rep told me that they run at 95-96% rtp and that that's the highest available option (didn't it used to be 97.5% was the highest option?), but the fair gaming section on the website says the past year paid out ~94%. Intertops told me they run at 97%, but their audited numbers show 94% as well.

So that's RTG for you, and some of those are supposed to be the "good" sites. It could be theoretically possible that the casinomax numbers were just a result of very unlucky players, I would be curious if they have an answer since they're pretty active here. The intertops chat was definitely lying to me though, which seems pretty weird, and I suspect isn't an isolated case. Casino extreme told me 96% as well but I don't believe that at all. I guess you can't even trust the chat reps to give you an honest answer.

Going to pass this along to @Karolina-CasinoMax this to see if there's any explanation. (Was actually thinking of making a thread about this at some point, but wanted to send along a pm beforehand. But since it's relevant here, oh well, good enough.)

Hi zreb,

As this question popped up recently we run some audit and I can confirm that the statement on the web site is correct:

Based on the last 12 months of gameplay, our RTP (rounded downwards) is currently 94% for our Real Series Video Slots.

Kind Regards,
Karolina
 

pokerdan

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LA
And another (group) bites the dust for me.

Y'all? I'm on a cut and burn mission lately and loving it. You know how you lose thousands and say hey, I really need a comp here and get told "we don't give ndb's"? Yeah, me either .But Daria at cafecasino.lv did just that. Bovada offered $50 (I haven't cashed out in a year or more there, if that). Slots.lv? Ignition.eu? No effs given over losing me. Again, thousands paid in. "Loyal." Enthusiastic, even.

Intriguingly, after telling support to exclude me, they "closed my account as requested, please don't hesitate to contact us if you want to reopen your account."

So. Who's next? Lol

Also, KasinoKing? Take note. They're slow pay, don't give AF about their loyal players (15 years or so at Bovada, 10-ish at slots.lv), and tho I'm just a player, I would never rec them

I guess everyone has a different experience. I am a hall of fame member on Bovada and sportsbet on a daily basis. I lost a ton on march madness but generally do pretty well. I cash out every week and get paid in roughly 12 hours every time I WD. I also get tons of free money. After losing about 3k on march madness and feeling like a moron I logged in and had a free 250 bonus sitting in my account which I built up to 1200 and cashed out. Had the money the following morning. I also cash out fairly consistently on ignition but usually only play once a week there for the weekly bonus

The sports odds at bovada are not as good as elsewhere and I get charged 11% using a CC which sucks. I try to stick to bitcoin and the feee rewards add up quick. Bovada is my favorite site online and they are trustworthy. They pay fast.

The problem with most of these sites is that they can care less if they lose us. They get thousands of players and we are just small potatoes.

It sounds like you are just running bad and should take a break. Closing your accounts won’t help your situation even if it feels good. I did the same thing at Casinomax.. closed my account for the same reasons you argue against Bovada. I just reopened it and still cant hit squat..

Nonetheless if you feel a site isnt doing goid for you simply stop depositing. Closing your account isn’t going to bother them at all. They can care less. Speak with your wallet :)
 

pokerdan

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LA
Any more info on the slowpay - how bad are we talking here? Couple days, couple weeks, were they giving you other trouble? Did they give a reason?

Bovada group is a bit worrisome because their terms basically give them the "right" to take away your money for just about any reason at all if they decide they don't like your play, but in practice I haven't seen or read about cases of them actually doing that. (Unless the player was doing something obviously dumb.)

I thought they were a decent option if you're looking for a rival casino to play, but that's in part because i haven't exactly seen any other good options. If anyone has a good rival casino to recommend, I'd appreciate it, because I don't think they really exist... I would try the sloto/deckmedia ones but I don't like credit card deposits. My experience with superior casino has been pretty bad and most of the other ones I've looked into seem lacking in trustworthiness.

To be fair, I can understand being frustrated at losses, but of all the bad options we have facing us for US casinos, support being too stingy to give a comp would not be a dealbreaker for me. I assume you at least get the cashback on losses they offer? It's not much but it's something.

But yeah I've thought bovada group were a "decent" option for US players but that's largely because most of the other options are even worse. I don't think I can name a US facing casino I could recommend to anyone without some kind of reservation.

Bovada pays me in roughly 12 hours every time I WD. I think once I had to wait almost 48 hours. But that was during superbowl. I am a hall of fame member and play there everyday
 

Nightfly

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Somewhere USA
Hardly any luck for me at Bovada. Closed my account there a couple times after going long stretches without a chance to make a withdrawal. Still playing at Ignition with some luck and I can't complain about the timeframe for withdrawals there. With bitcoin I usually get paid with-in 12 to 24 hours.
 

pokerdan

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LA
I win every other week at ignition. But I usually only play when I can get the weekly 100% bonus because I can play for hours on a 100 buck deposit. Hard to make playthrough but when you do it’s worth it. I have made playthrough quite a few times. Sometimes I just but in and play.
 

dreamguardian1

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Sep 6, 2012
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San Francisco, CA
And another (group) bites the dust for me.

Y'all? I'm on a cut and burn mission lately and loving it. You know how you lose thousands and say hey, I really need a comp here and get told "we don't give ndb's"? Yeah, me either .But Daria at cafecasino.lv did just that. Bovada offered $50 (I haven't cashed out in a year or more there, if that). Slots.lv? Ignition.eu? No effs given over losing me. Again, thousands paid in. "Loyal." Enthusiastic, even.

Intriguingly, after telling support to exclude me, they "closed my account as requested, please don't hesitate to contact us if you want to reopen your account."

So. Who's next? Lol

Also, KasinoKing? Take note. They're slow pay, don't give AF about their loyal players (15 years or so at Bovada, 10-ish at slots.lv), and tho I'm just a player, I would never rec them

Anytime a casno "offers" me a free chip I look at the terms and conditions and its usually NOT free, 40% and sometimes higher playthrough, just not worth it, if anything I use those to get past the losing spins....
 

Savatage79

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I think most free chips are absolutely garbage. Especially ones where it's like a max cashout of 200 bucks and they want you to spin like 3k worth...nothx
 

pokerdan

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Location
LA
Bought in for 50 yesterday on ignition and made playthrough and cashed out 1k from the weekly bonus. Got my money today. Took about 12 hours after withdrawal. Playthrough was 50x and it took like 12 hours of playtime. But thats 12 hours of entertainment. Tons of bonuses. Posted a big win on some fish game. Think the game was called goodfishies or something. I played Champs Elysees and got tons of retriggers for the Paris bonus game.

Anyways, in my opinion Bovada and Ignition are the best U.S. facing sites. Especially Bovada since you can bet sports. Did great on hockey yesterday at Bovada. I just don’t think the OP’s posts on these groups are correct based on my personal experience. Nothing but a good experience for me for years!

One more point.. they dont remove your bonus from your winnings after playthrough. Which is a nice change from other sites
 

dreamguardian1

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Sep 6, 2012
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Bought in for 50 yesterday on ignition and made playthrough and cashed out 1k from the weekly bonus. Got my money today. Took about 12 hours after withdrawal. Playthrough was 50x and it took like 12 hours of playtime. But thats 12 hours of entertainment. Tons of bonuses. Posted a big win on some fish game. Think the game was called goodfishies or something. I played Champs Elysees and got tons of retriggers for the Paris bonus game.

Anyways, in my opinion Bovada and Ignition are the best U.S. facing sites. Especially Bovada since you can bet sports. Did great on hockey yesterday at Bovada. I just don’t think the OP’s posts on these groups are correct based on my personal experience. Nothing but a good experience for me for years!

One more point.. they dont remove your bonus from your winnings after playthrough. Which is a nice change from other sites

Depending on what you play they do remove the bonuses if done with slots (as far as I know but they may have changed their policy) I haven't played at Bovada in a long time.
 

Savatage79

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Pittsburgh
Well I'm ready to cut inetbet loose for good. My last cash out was July of last year I believe.. I've pumped easily 4to 5k into it, and not a single one since.

It's atrocious
 

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