Another great UKGC licensed operator?

flyingguy

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Was browsing the UKGC register to see if there were any newcomers on the market and came across this one;

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Did a quick search on the address it's registered to and seems this address is notorious with fake/scamming type businesses. May not be the case but just all seems odd, and when you look at the games they are providing it doesn't seem to suggest a high end operation.

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Thought @dunover might like to cast his eye on this...

I guess my other question is, why does someone setup a 'casino' like this, hardly any slots, not promoted anywhere, is it just a laundering operation or is this how all operators start out?
 

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Just checked out one of their sites, and you can, from the UK, play games in demo mode without logging in or an age check being made.

Well done UKGC, do they dish out these licenses just willy nilly or was this given to them on purpose so that they can fine the casino subsequently LOL
 

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I'm just wondering for a few months why the UKGC keeps that beta site enabled. I really didnt want to update our seals as a beta(dot) domain for me doesnt feel trustworthy. You know like staging(dot) - demo(dot) etc is where you "try" your stuff.

A few weeks later we got a warning to update seals to the beta site. Seems beta is the new defauft :)

Just here to derail the topic btw
 

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JESUS! This is bad, like bcasino (more Israeli fraudsters) getting a license and renting a bogus cubby hole address in St. Albans. I've told 1x2/Iron Dog this shower are offering their slot demos with no age-gating. The 'casino' is a simple shell site, there to fulfil some other purpose. So it appears. The UKGC need to see the above links too.
 

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JESUS! This is bad, like bcasino (more Israeli fraudsters) getting a license and renting a bogus cubby hole address in St. Albans. I've told 1x2/Iron Dog this shower are offering their slot demos with no age-gating. The 'casino' is a simple shell site, there to fulfil some other purpose. So it appears. The UKGC need to see the above links too.
No doubt Chipmonkz will be streaming from there soon :)
 

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JESUS! This is bad, like bcasino (more Israeli fraudsters) getting a license and renting a bogus cubby hole address in St. Albans. I've told 1x2/Iron Dog this shower are offering their slot demos with no age-gating. The 'casino' is a simple shell site, there to fulfil some other purpose. So it appears. The UKGC need to see the above links too.

Nah Nah.... St Albans is quite posh you know..... pretty expensive to live to boot too
 

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lol tried the x bar slot in fun mode (from the UK) £1 stake gives massive jackpot of £150 quid ... did show RTP of 96% really messed up site - imagine making a deposit there. And even though they have the Gamstop link on the sites BXO holdings are not listed as a participating site on Gamstop. So this is the depths the UKGC will now go to. Seems like any old fukker with a few quid and a couple of poorly designed slots can get a licence these days. Its laughable I just hope no one signs up to this clip joint!
 

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Directors

Jason Frost, also a director of

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Gabino Aurelios STERGIDES, also a director of

Electrocoin
https:// bar - x . com/ (affiliate site so removed link)

Andrew Martin JONES

Aliquantum Gaming

who, despite being dissolved, have a live website and current UKGC license

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On the face of it, they seem quite legitimate
 
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Aliquantum Gaming is a reputable company - I know the folks behind it. And no, they aren't Israeli. (not that there is anything wrong with being Israeli LOL)
 

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Aliquantum Gaming is a reputable company - I know the folks behind it. And no, they aren't Israeli. (not that there is anything wrong with being Israeli LOL)
The site is in beta mode, so not ready to take deposits etc. (in answer to @flyingguy ) I still don't get why they chose to use that address to register the company at, given the negative links it unquestionably has. It's also worth noting that the guys behind it may well not be the same as those fronting it but hey, that's the UKGC's job to investigate. I can guarantee you that no physical entity for this company nor any persons running it live at the address registered, which I thought was supposed to be the case for licensees? Maybe @colinsunderland knows the rules in more detail, but then again it's probably okay as bcasino seem to have done it for years.
 

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The site is in beta mode, so not ready to take deposits etc. (in answer to @flyingguy ) I still don't get why they chose to use that address to register the company at, given the negative links it unquestionably has. It's also worth noting that the guys behind it may well not be the same as those fronting it but hey, that's the UKGC's job to investigate. I can guarantee you that no physical entity for this company nor any persons running it live at the address registered, which I thought was supposed to be the case for licensees? Maybe @colinsunderland knows the rules in more detail, but then again it's probably okay as bcasino seem to have done it for years.
I always thought that was the case, but seeing things recently, either the UKGC don't care, or it isn't. I will ask them next time I speak to them though :)
What I would say is, the people involved are quite respectable, and as dodgy as it looks on the surface, theres possibly an innocent explanation
 

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Hi Everyone, wanted to throw my 2 pennies worth in - I am Andy Jones, CEO of AliQuantum Gaming... I can confirm I'm not Israli, (Though I have lots of great Israli friends, and non of them are scammers!)

I wanted to answer the points raised above, and hopefully confirm to the OP that while things may look dodgy to him, there are innocent explanations.

BXO Holdings is a company we set up last year to provide White Label services to the UKs Arcade industry. My two partners in the business, Jason Frost and Gabino Stergides, both come from the Arcade sector, and have very good reputaions in their industry - Jason is in fact the President of EUROMAT (
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), the European manufactorers association, and Gabi is a previous president of BACTA (
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) the UK amusement trades association. For myself, I have run AliQuantum Gaming for almost 20 years in various jurisdictions, including being one of the first licencees ever in Malta, back in 2004, until moving solely to operate under our UK licences in 2019. AliQuantum is a software supplier, not an operator.

The aim of the company is to provide a lightweight online gaming experience for players who traditionally only played in arcades. There is no plan to do any marketing to the sites other than from within the Arcades, by way of in house posters and flyers only. We are not interested in big stakes gaming, instead seeking to mimic the new lower stakes imposed on the landbased sector, and hopefully staying well clear of problem gamblers by having small playing and deposit limits. The aim is to supplement an arcades income rather than canabalise it.

Obviously, the pandemic meant the extended closure of all the UKs arcades, which meant the project was put on hold for some considerable amount of time, and we have not actually launched the product yet, indeed we only enabled registrations and deposits in the last few weeks to begin working on the sites again.

I can categorically say that the same people BEHIND the company (ie US!) are the same people FRONTING it (still US, and our staff!).

With regards to the address of BXO holdings, this is simply because we used a company called Company Formations 247 (
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) to incorporate the company, and it offers regsitration address services. It may well be that other less reputable companies also have their registered addresses at that address, but that is outside of our control. The UKGC also has details of our "operational address", which is the same as AliQuantum Gamings address in Poole. We certainly are not going out of our way to try to hide anything at all. i think if the OP had been a little more thorough in their initial investigations, then they would clearly have seen that things are not as they have portrayed.

Regarding the playing of fun games behind the KYCd login wall, i am a little surprised at that, because, assuming that the player was in the UK and not on a VPN, this is not possible. Both 1X2 and myself have checked again to make sure that this is not allowed.

Deeplay mentions in his post that we have a GAMSTOP link but are not on the GAMSTOP list of participating companies, but this is incorrect, BXO Holding can clearly be seen on the list here:
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(half way down the first column!)

Also, I can most definitely say that AliQuantum is not a dissolved company -
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While I can see from the Original and Subsequent Posters comments how SOME of the aspects of the set up MIGHT be misconstrued by someone looking to play it that way, I would like to reassure you, we arent money launderers, scammers (Israli or not!), or dubious gambling operators trying to fleece unsuspecting players - quite the opposite. The site may appear basic to the type of sophisticated online gamer who traditionalty haunts the hallowed halls of CasinoMeister, but that is not the type of player that we are trying to attract.

As Bryan has kindly posted in the thread, we have been in the business many, many years, and I hopefully still have quite a relatively good repuation on these boards and in the wider online community, which as you will know is not always an easy task with some unscrupulous players always looking out for ways to take us humble platform providers and operators down :)

Anyways, please dont hesitate to ask if there is anything that I can clarify more!
 

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Just checked, and certainly on Bar X Arcade, all of the demo buttons have a hover-pop-up advising you need to be logged in to play, and nothing further happens.

Which is more than some of the actual game creators' sites do!
 

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Hi Everyone, wanted to throw my 2 pennies worth in - I am Andy Jones, CEO of AliQuantum Gaming... I can confirm I'm not Israli, (Though I have lots of great Israli friends, and non of them are scammers!)

I wanted to answer the points raised above, and hopefully confirm to the OP that while things may look dodgy to him, there are innocent explanations.

BXO Holdings is a company we set up last year to provide White Label services to the UKs Arcade industry. My two partners in the business, Jason Frost and Gabino Stergides, both come from the Arcade sector, and have very good reputaions in their industry - Jason is in fact the President of EUROMAT (
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), the European manufactorers association, and Gabi is a previous president of BACTA (
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) the UK amusement trades association. For myself, I have run AliQuantum Gaming for almost 20 years in various jurisdictions, including being one of the first licencees ever in Malta, back in 2004, until moving solely to operate under our UK licences in 2019. AliQuantum is a software supplier, not an operator.

The aim of the company is to provide a lightweight online gaming experience for players who traditionally only played in arcades. There is no plan to do any marketing to the sites other than from within the Arcades, by way of in house posters and flyers only. We are not interested in big stakes gaming, instead seeking to mimic the new lower stakes imposed on the landbased sector, and hopefully staying well clear of problem gamblers by having small playing and deposit limits. The aim is to supplement an arcades income rather than canabalise it.

Obviously, the pandemic meant the extended closure of all the UKs arcades, which meant the project was put on hold for some considerable amount of time, and we have not actually launched the product yet, indeed we only enabled registrations and deposits in the last few weeks to begin working on the sites again.

I can categorically say that the same people BEHIND the company (ie US!) are the same people FRONTING it (still US, and our staff!).

With regards to the address of BXO holdings, this is simply because we used a company called Company Formations 247 (
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) to incorporate the company, and it offers regsitration address services. It may well be that other less reputable companies also have their registered addresses at that address, but that is outside of our control. The UKGC also has details of our "operational address", which is the same as AliQuantum Gamings address in Poole. We certainly are not going out of our way to try to hide anything at all. i think if the OP had been a little more thorough in their initial investigations, then they would clearly have seen that things are not as they have portrayed.

Regarding the playing of fun games behind the KYCd login wall, i am a little surprised at that, because, assuming that the player was in the UK and not on a VPN, this is not possible. Both 1X2 and myself have checked again to make sure that this is not allowed.

Deeplay mentions in his post that we have a GAMSTOP link but are not on the GAMSTOP list of participating companies, but this is incorrect, BXO Holding can clearly be seen on the list here:
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(half way down the first column!)

Also, I can most definitely say that AliQuantum is not a dissolved company -
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While I can see from the Original and Subsequent Posters comments how SOME of the aspects of the set up MIGHT be misconstrued by someone looking to play it that way, I would like to reassure you, we arent money launderers, scammers (Israli or not!), or dubious gambling operators trying to fleece unsuspecting players - quite the opposite. The site may appear basic to the type of sophisticated online gamer who traditionalty haunts the hallowed halls of CasinoMeister, but that is not the type of player that we are trying to attract.

As Bryan has kindly posted in the thread, we have been in the business many, many years, and I hopefully still have quite a relatively good repuation on these boards and in the wider online community, which as you will know is not always an easy task with some unscrupulous players always looking out for ways to take us humble platform providers and operators down :)

Anyways, please dont hesitate to ask if there is anything that I can clarify more!
Thanks for that, just to say, this was the company that was dissolved

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So you can understand my mistake, I was just searching what you were a director of, came across that, searched for the name, and came across the active website, so presumed they were one and the same, my apologies.
 

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Did a quick search on the address it's registered to and seems this address is notorious with fake/scamming type businesses.

The IP addresses route to LINX (London) and the domain appears to be hosted by cloudfare. The fact that the addresses could've been used for everything and anything in the past is irrelevant.

In my opinion a legitimate business should not be doing as below though if they want to avoid suspicion:

Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Organization: Barx Arcade
Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant State/Province: London
Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country: GB

Stuff like that is a huge red flag.
 

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Thanks for that, just to say, this was the company that was dissolved

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So you can understand my mistake, I was just searching what you were a director of, came across that, searched for the name, and came across the active website, so presumed they were one and the same, my apologies.
Yes, I presumed that was the case - we were running everything out of Malta for a long while, and so didnt use the UK company, so we dissolved it. Then we came back to good old Blighty :)

I promise, nothing untoward or dishonest. We make mistakes sometimes, and are usually punished heavily for them by various regulators, but they are always just mistakes, never intentional!
 

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I appreciate the response, the reason for my suspicion and that of others is that there does seem to be some new operators who are not as legitimate as you are and on this forum we like to keep each other aware of them. Just to add, when I first tried the site I was able to open some of the games in demo mode which is what got my alarms bell ringing. Maybe it's been changed, but 100% I was able to play in demo mode. Best of luck with the endeavour!
 

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In my opinion a legitimate business should not be doing as below though if they want to avoid suspicion:

Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Organization: Barx Arcade
Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant State/Province: London
Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country: GB

Stuff like that is a huge red flag.
No it's not. This is something that a good business entity would insist on. Imagine your employees being targeted by a disgruntled gambler. There is no reason at all to have these fields public.
 

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I appreciate the response, the reason for my suspicion and that of others is that there does seem to be some new operators who are not as legitimate as you are and on this forum we like to keep each other aware of them. Just to add, when I first tried the site I was able to open some of the games in demo mode which is what got my alarms bell ringing. Maybe it's been changed, but 100% I was able to play in demo mode. Best of luck with the endeavour!
Yes, you were because I did too. I believe it's been addressed now.
 

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No it's not. This is something that a good business entity would insist on. Imagine your employees being targeted by a disgruntled gambler. There is no reason at all to have these fields public.

I disagree with you completely. I wouldn't touch any business with a bargepole, that makes anonymous registrations. What have they got to hide?
 

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It’s only the domain registrant obscured. Many, many companies pay third parties to set up and arrange their domains and hosting. The address on Whois data is far less reliable than the address on the website.

Let’s be honest - it’s only us hyper nerds that would think to use whois to find out information about a website owner.
 

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I'm just wondering for a few months why the UKGC keeps that beta site enabled. I really didnt want to update our seals as a beta(dot) domain for me doesnt feel trustworthy. You know like staging(dot) - demo(dot) etc is where you "try" your stuff.

A few weeks later we got a warning to update seals to the beta site. Seems beta is the new defauft :)

Just here to derail the topic btw

UK Government sites are invariably in beta. I think Companies House has only just come out of beta, after that being the default site for half a decade.
 

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UK Government sites are invariably in beta. I think Companies House has only just come out of beta, after that being the default site for half a decade.
Soon we release... beta.allbritishcasino.com, lets have a look at the bounce rate there :)
 
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