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Discussion in 'The Attic' started by Nifty29, Apr 9, 2013.

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    Apr 9, 2013
  1. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Jasminebed, just play, mimi26, smokeeye, wobble33

    Thanking someone's post that has direct personal insults in it is "high fiving".

    It's just the same as a group of people standing in front of someone on the street, and one of the group throws an insult and the others go high fiving and yelling "you got OWNED!! and "Yeah cop that hahahah".

    Frankly, it is childish and pathetic....but given some of the members involved, not surprising.

    All I did in this thread is point out my position in a non-emotional and logical way, as I always do. The fact that is often pisses some people off, usually because it doesn't involve jumping on the "poor player" bandwagon from the off and considers the case from BOTH sides. I could very easily just ignore some facts and take the player's side on every issue like some, and get the pats on the back and the "you tell 'em" comments etc....but I would be doing just that,....ignoring facts.

    Even though I stated several times that it sucks, and that it is awful that the player lost $17k, it seems to mean nothing because I dared to point out that the terms and conditions were clear and the player broke them.....the casino COULD pay if it wanted to, but technically it doesn't HAVE to. I also stated the term IS predatory....but that the player accepted it and should expect to be bound by it.

    Guess what?....the paragraph above which I reiterated several times is pretty much what Bryan said just before. So when is he going to cop what I copped? I notice he was thanked a lot. Amazing.

    Simmo! - I agree and disagree. I don't "jump on the back" of genuine newbs who behave reasonably and actually want genuine advice rather than everyone to take their side. I disagree about having to know about "terminology" to have any clue about what you're signing up to. Surely the onus is on the person reading and accepting the terms to KNOW what they are accepting? Most terms that are breached are actually quite clear e.g. "You may not bet more than 30% of the bonus awarded" (a common breached term) or in this case "If you withdraw before meeting the wagering requirements (which were quite clear) you will forfeit your winnings and bonus". Obviously the last one is a crap term, but I don't see how one has to be a "gambling expert" to understand what it means.....and if one does NOT understand, one needs to clarify it with the casino. It is just plain common sense, and I don't see why one player should be held to a different standard than another purely because one player didn't use common sense and/or understand what they were signing up for.

    garya (and the members above who high fived).....if anyone has a narrow view of the world, it is you. I know that at least one of you has issues that keeps them at home, which makes the high fiving even more pathetic and hypocritical. Obviously, spending more time than yourselves doing a particular thing makes one "desperate" or "a loser" etc etc...or a "paid shill". Again...who needs to "open their curtains" here?

    Gary, I asked you a simple question....that's it. All you had to say was "No". I didn't accuse you of anything. YOu made a song and dance over nothing.

    Sorry to the other members for the derail, but I refuse to be "spat at" because I look at things in a different way which conflicts with those who perenially support the player in any dispute....and that's what "high fiving" is the online equivalent of...spitting in one's face...which is why I NEVER do it and never will.
     
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  3. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Come on Nifty,

    These few members were obviously thanking the post in its entirety and not specifically the part concerning you. I doubt whether they would have considered you so nasty to 'high-five' the bit against you. In fact, I hold them in high regard and am sure that wasn't their intention.
     
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  4. Apr 9, 2013
  5. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    I didn't expect you to see it my way Chu, but the actual post was quite short and obviously directed at myself (not just the part with my name in it) and it is quite obvious....so much so that Bryan felt he needed to mention it.

    Some of those people have been around long enough to know that if a post has personal insults in it, then you shouldn't thank it, lest it appear that they are indeed "high fiving" such personal insults (such as is the case here).

    I know for a fact that some of them would do so, and I believe some if not all of them knew exactly what they were doing and how it would be construed. It's even more obvious when gary states "we should just fight rogue casinos and not take jibes at each other" and in the next breath suggests that I'm a paid shill and that "I need to open my curtains"...either those people didn't actually read the post, or I'm on the right track after all.

    If some of them didn't mean it to be a high five, then they should consider refraining from thanking posts that might be construed to be insulting. IIRC, that is why Bryan and Max have recommended many times, and IMO it's a good idea. I've read posts that are 99% very good, but I won't thank them because they say something personally insulting.

    Anyway, I've said what I wanted to say and I'm not going to derail any further.
     
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  7. just play

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    Well your wrong with me...I was thanking this part of his post....


    Who could this be about? Hmmm, let me think...give me a minute....oh yaaaaaa....MEEEEEEEEE. I have blogged about my disorder, you don't have to say "one of you has issues that keeps them at home". I'm sure most people here know this was about me, you could have used my name.

    I'm pathetic and hypocritical because I thanked a part of a post...would you like me to research your answer when someone thanks someones post which includes a jab? You, yourself has said..."when someone thanks a post, they are not thanking every word". I could find one of these posts if you like?

    Being a long time member yourself, I have no idea why your getting your panties in a bunch over this??? Seeing as you thank parts of posts yourself. I don't "high five", you can think what you wish, I don't really give a shit.
     
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  9. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    FWIW....nothing I'm sure....I didn't mention your name because I wasn't sure how many people knew about your illness. I was trying to be sensitive toward you by posting what I knew you would understand but that (I thought) others wouldn't.

    You're free to find examples of me high giving personal insults. Just don't post them here please...make a new thread if you must but its already derailed this thread enough.
     
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  11. just play

    just play closed account

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    It's not an illness, (I'm not sick) it's a disorder.

    I would think since I only have one blog and that is what it's about, maybe 60-70% of members know. I don't keep it secret and I'm sure as hell not ashamed of it.

    OMG...yes I get YOUR AND YOU'RE mixed up...grow up. You were being sensitive toward me? Hmmm, I must have forgot what pathetic and
    hypocritical meant.

    (yes, I'm going to make a new thread about you giving high fives...hahahaha)

    YOU derailed the thread, no one else.
     
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  13. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Forget it. Not worth it.
     
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  15. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

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    Dear Nifty,

    I can assure you that I was not 'high fiving' anyone for throwing personal insults at forum members I was thanking him for saying that we should all come together as a community. I have no alliances on this forum either real or imagined and I have no ill feeling towards you or any other forum members. I come here to read and learn about online gaming and have no time or interest in some of the mud slinging that goes on here.
     
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  17. Nifty29

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    Thanks mimi. You're the one that totally surprised me and you've just showed me why. :)

    I agree with community part too.....but if you read it again Gary says we should come together as a community and stop throwing insults at each other.....and then threw insults at me in the next sentence.

    Personally, if half a post is demeaning someone, and the the other half is the best post I've seen in years, I still won't thank it, because I don't want anyone to think I agreed with the nasty bit. Obviously some see it different, but IMO its about how it looks, particularly to the person being insulted.
     
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  19. just play

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    Are you kidding me???

    Bryan, lets put 2+2 together....someone writess a post, 5 people thank it...for totally different reasons....then Nifty writes a post saying these words to us....


    Now...the posters never said nothing about Nifty, they thanked a post....THEN Nifty gets his panties in a bunch because he's getting "picked on"...

    STARTS A POST, DOING SOMETHING WORSE THAN THANKING A POST....calling people out by name, and saying those words above.

    THEN you come in and say bla bla bla, don't high five. NOTHING to one of your members who called out posters by name and made a huge post ABOUT THEM???

    AGAIN...ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? The thread was derailed by Nifty and Nifty alone!!! ANOTHER BEST PART...Nifty said nothing to the poster who DIRECTLY insulted him.
     
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  21. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Not sure why my response in the other thread was not moved, but:

    Nifty, while I don't agree with you in the original thread, you do have my apology if you felt I was ganging up and insulting you.

    I too spend a lot of time here, and it's hard not to get emotionally invested at times.

    You managed to make me cry last night. I do my best to conduct myself with dignity here, voice my own views on the issues and leave personalities out of my posts.

    I think all our forum members deserve respect, and I don't feel very respected being called childish and pathetic.
     
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  23. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    what gets me here is you only high fived the posts off mr b/j and the rep that were agreeing with you. but you didnt high five many more? so lets get this right, if you were wrong or right, you were only going to high five people who agreed with you.
     
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  25. Stovetopp

    Stovetopp Senior Member MM

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    wobble33, why would one "highfive" people you disagree with?

    I am late in this conversation, but I only high five those I agree with or if its a good hit on the slots
     
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  27. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    read the whole thread. then you will understand him only thanking people that agreed with him. or put another way, the people who stuck up for the casino.
     
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  29. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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    I know how to solve this "highfive" thing.
    An argument removed from another thread: clap1.gif,Apr 9, 2013 An argument removed from another thread: highfive.jpg,Apr 9, 2013 An argument removed from another thread: clap1.gif,Apr 9, 2013

    Now Weesie,Harrys99,Wobble33 did you place your hand on it before you Thanked me lol
    Have a great day everyone.
     
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  31. KasinoKing

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    I've been told off for thanking a post before, and accused of "high-fiving" - and I think that was just ridiculous.
    The post did contain a criticism of another senior member here, but that was only one short sentence. The rest of the quite long post contained "useful and informative" content and it was THAT that I was thanking for.
    I thought that's what the thanks button was for!

    KK
     
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  33. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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  35. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Seriously people. I don't have the time to monitor the forum and be the school marm. If you are having issues with other members, please deal with it by communicating privately and not letting it spill over into the public fora.

    @just play - I hardly read any of the personal referencing between members in this thread. I moved the ones over to here that had nothing to do with the casinoplex issue, and I'm not about to get into a public argument on who was right/who was wrong/what should be thanked/and what shouldn't be. I really should not be investing time with that sort of thing. Life is short, right?

    Let's go forward in peace. Thank you. :D
     
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  37. LaHutti

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  39. just play

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    You don't need to argue...(surprised tone, not bitchy tone)


    If one poster is going to cry fowl, and you recognize it by talking about "high fives", (make a post about it) but then you don't recognize posters who get shit on (with very demeaning names) for doing nothing wrong...to me you had time.

    Yes, life is too short to not have your members thought of as equals. Jesus...one poster came to tears, and you STILL don't say anything in public to Nifty...somethings very very wrong here.

    Why don't you just take away the "thanks" button, then no one can get their panties in a bunch.


    You mean like Nifty did?
     
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