Ag14 vs 32red

Scott1baird

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Love that response! Apologies for replying when tensions were high!
It wasn't aimed at you lol, I just find it hard myself to see where the holding a passport, a newspaper, and taking a selfie holding them so they can bee seen clearly enough to make out the writing can be valid. I honestly can't see how it would work.
 

Davey86

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It wasn't aimed at you lol, I just find it hard myself to see where the holding a passport, a newspaper, and taking a selfie holding them so they can bee seen clearly enough to make out the writing can be valid. I honestly can't see how it would work.
If your a casino anything is possible :p
 

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Can you actually imagine walking into a bank and going for a loan and them asking if you could step outside buy today's newspaper and then take a picture and come back in with it.

I'd say that's a bit different though m8. If the customer had walked into Marks office with the relevant documents, like some banks require when you take a loan, they can then further confirm he is indeed who he says he is by looking at his pretty face and matching all the documents requested. Giving them more confidence no fraudulent activity is taking place.

Obviously they cannot do it like your bank example in a situation like this, since 32Red don't have offices in every town.
So without using Skype or something like that, then if there is suspicion that arouses concerns similar to that of activity they're currently noticing from some other players who they may already have proof on are acting fraudulently, then by requesting the player provide further proof they are who they say they are, proof that hasn't been pre-prepared by some syndicate group/or fraudsters or something (as in the reqested example, a recent selfie that would be hard to forge or impossible to preprepare due to the front page of a recent newspaper) it can help them come to an easier conclusion.

Unfortunately, many fradusters have done their homework. And I guess that is why in ceartin situations, even though it may seem a bit absurd, if you can't deal with a client face to face after something has raised an alarm, then in order to confidently protect your business extra measures sometimes have to be taken.
 

mcgameboy

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No, if you had bothered to have read anything in the registration process - your first several posts are moderated to ensure this place is free of spam.

Feel free to come back when you've put your big boy pants on and can act like a reasonable adult.

Not wanting to be seen as critical of you Bryan BUT.....

I was SOOO looking forward to reading the legendary "bye dickweed" ending instead.

I'm all disappointed now :(

:p
 

Scott1baird

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I'd say that's a bit different though m8. If the customer had walked into Marks office with the relevant documents, like some banks require when you take a loan, they can then further confirm he is indeed who he says he is by looking at his pretty face and matching all the documents requested. Giving them more confidence no fraudulent activity is taking place.

Obviously they cannot do it like your bank example in a situation like this, since 32Red don't have offices in every town.
So without using Skype or something like that, then if there is suspicion that arouses concerns similar to that of activity they're currently noticing from some other players who they may already have proof on are acting fraudulently, then by requesting the player provide further proof they are who they say they are, proof that hasn't been pre-prepared by some syndicate group/or fraudsters or something (as in the reqested example, a recent selfie that would be hard to forge or impossible to preprepare due to the front page of a recent newspaper) it can help them come to an easier conclusion.

Unfortunately, many fradusters have done their homework. And I guess that is why in ceartin situations, even though it may seem a bit absurd, if you can't deal with a client face to face after something has raised an alarm, then in order to confidently protect your business extra measures sometimes have to be taken.
Fair enough, but when I am applying for a payday loan I don't need to submit a picture of myself holding my passport with todays newspaper.
 

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Fair enough, but when I am applying for a payday loan I don't need to submit a picture of myself holding my passport with todays newspaper.

Well, think yourself lucky you're not doing a Casumo SoW as they ask you for a selfie holding tomorrow's newspaper....
 

Scott1baird

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Well, think yourself lucky you're not doing a Casumo SoW as they ask you for a selfie holding tomorrow's newspaper....
My point was really can't they just do a proper hard credit check? To confirm who you are, I must have about literally 50 soft checks on my file right now. All from casinos.
 

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Not sure how hard credit check is completed in UK, but main aim for these is try to be bit more sure that same person is using account whos details are in it. When you complete e-verification, it just tells you that this person exist but not that it could be me who is actually using account somebody else details. Of course these kind of selfie things can be completed often in these cases where people anyhow know each others, but putting many small things together can give you bit more confidence that there's no any naughty impersonating going on because somebody just want only to use SUB:s when ever playing slots and make odds much more favorable to win something (when you only touch your bonus after real balance is gone it just sometimes saves you when you manage to complete wagering).

If you without reason fit to same profile than some fraudster gang, then you might be asked some extra steps in verification.
 

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I'd say that's a bit different though m8. If the customer had walked into Marks office with the relevant documents, like some banks require when you take a loan, they can then further confirm he is indeed who he says he is by looking at his pretty face and matching all the documents requested. Giving them more confidence no fraudulent activity is taking place.

Obviously they cannot do it like your bank example in a situation like this, since 32Red don't have offices in every town.
So without using Skype or something like that, then if there is suspicion that arouses concerns similar to that of activity they're currently noticing from some other players who they may already have proof on are acting fraudulently, then by requesting the player provide further proof they are who they say they are, proof that hasn't been pre-prepared by some syndicate group/or fraudsters or something (as in the reqested example, a recent selfie that would be hard to forge or impossible to preprepare due to the front page of a recent newspaper) it can help them come to an easier conclusion.

Unfortunately, many fradusters have done their homework. And I guess that is why in ceartin situations, even though it may seem a bit absurd, if you can't deal with a client face to face after something has raised an alarm, then in order to confidently protect your business extra measures sometimes have to be taken.

If the UK government had just asked the same questions that the casino did when companies applied for Bounce Back Loans then we would all be in a much better place right now....
 

TheSchwad

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Well, think yourself lucky you're not doing a Casumo SoW as they ask you for a selfie holding tomorrow's newspaper....

Ha, brilliant, this made me giggle, the best analogy of what Casumo ask for, the impossible.

Wanted a pay statement from me with specific details, on as though my employer would do this, my statement comes as is, and has done for 20 years, they 'will not' create me a bespoke one.
 
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