After winning at MG - Get the hell out!

[steinhaug]

Hi all. If MG casinos does indeed perform the way described by kimss here, how long should I wait before going back to a casino where I've had a big win? Two days? Three days? Till I get may cashout? Is the "system" ever "reset"?

In kimss' case where he won 8000 euros, there would be no sense in going back EVER again, if the casino takes back what you won BEFORE awarding any wins. Same goes for wanda5's win.

Thanks guys.

If my assumptions are correct, and the otherplayers which state that I should be going for a 95% and be happy - this means if you ever win you can never go back to the casino since the casino will infact screw you over to get back to the 95% payout!

I think this thread suddenly got very interesting!

 

[thetic]

I don't think anyone is saying you should be happy with 95% what we are saying is don't be surprised if in long run your return is 95% (or less if you ramp your wagers up after you have had good fortune).

Moreover don't be surprised if you win big and lose it by ploughing money back into the slots the next day.

Your theory on it being cold after a big win needs a lot more data to prove it, what we have to date is hearsay.

If you ask nicely enough I am sure you will also hear countering arguments where after a big win the luck has continued with more big wins following afterwards.

I remain to be convinced...

 

[steinhaug]

Just some more stats, i'm still not in lucky mode at all. Especially was hitman funny, note that quite some days passed from the big win so "naturally" someone filled the hole... 440 spins without freespins is kinda special here I would think. I got bonus 3 times, picked highest and got 60x2, 60x4 and 90x3 - amazing, (Well, I'm not that surprised really).

Another funny thing was that good to go and secret admirer started to roll now, however only max on 0.5 and 4 scatters on 1 meaning it was good for 100 in pay it seemed. My tip to you people, you should try it out. If loosing a few 100 on the games, do 7 or so spins on each of good to go and secret admirer. You will notice you pretty much have a "sure" win on theese, especially when the payout % is back to normal. I made good to go on 2 spin, the other spins were pretty dumb. The secret admirer win, later when loosing on tally ho - came on 4th spin.

Anyways, I should be looking in my backup DVDs for last years complete playcheck data, I would think some of you people would have interest in looking at it.

Haha, you might use my stats as ways of NOT playing, since obviously it's not working very well for me...

 

[wanda5]

Oh man, did you hit the nail on it's head! What you have experienced is exactly my findings, and theese are really bad! This is also why you only get one account on MG - since the software needs to be sure to screw you over!

Thanks for this post! If I win big, and you loose, I am supposed to have a new chance in winning since you filled my "hole" so to speak, it shouldnt be that I am always going on 95%... Where is the "fun" in that?

I feel where you are coming from and honestly I WISH I DIDNT...my husband is just done with online gambling and that makes me sooo sad! If what I am experiencing is just a coincidence ...its happening too often and as much as I argue with my husband, he is calling it exactly how its going to happen. We join or revisit a casino after a long period of time, we go in and on our first or second deposit we start winning like crazy, hitting every single bonus round in every game...there is maybe ONE or TWO that dont pay. Not a LARGE amount but enough to play for a LONG LONG LONG time, enough to get ya thinking, wow, this is sooo easy. Up and down for HOURS or even days & then we win a big one (like 100X our bet) and it all starts going down hill. We cant hit a single bonus round or a good amount for a long time. Each deposit seems like a quicker doom.

I just went through it with Roadhouse, River Belle, Gaming Club and now Challenge. So if it is just a coincedence, its happening enough to make me KNOW I cant stay anywhere long. I cant see it just being that I happen to walk into the right game 50 times in one day.

I know it bothers some people here when people vent about thier fears & bad experiences... I am not trying to start trouble, I LOVE playing and LOVE my friends & safe place here.
If my experience helps someone get the hell out after they win & it works for them... GREAT! I am not trying to scare anyone or take any money out of anyones pockets who have a vested interest in the casinos.
The thing that is really bothering me now is that it cant only be happening to a few of us...or is it?? Could be because of where I live?? Crazy things have happened in this industry over the years...I myself am keeping my ears & mind open to everything. Kimss, if you or anyone else would like to do some experimenting and comparing, pm me, I would be happy to compare notes playing at different casinos. Who knows, we could end up feeling better about it all.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Maybe I should revisit some of those old MG casinos I haven't played at in years, and claim my winning streak

Anyway, after my "insulting" consolation prize last week;


GOTCHA!!

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promoID: 4045

Hi (me, Vinyl),

Congratulations! You're a winner on the Tumbling Dice promotion!

Your 1000.00 bonus was credited to your account,
xxxxxxxxxxxx, at 6:30 PM on 7/15/2007. Enjoy!

Regards,

Kate Morgan
VIP Lounge Casino
A Jackpot Factory Casino

 

[cynthial]

Dang Vinyl, you lucky barstard. What did you do to win the 1000? What was/is Tumbling Dice Promo?

And that's not our devalued US money either, those are the Queens own pounds sterling!! Weehoo.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Dang Vinyl, you lucky barstard. What did you do to win the 1000? What was/is Tumbling Dice Promo?

And that's not our devalued US money either, those are the Queens own pounds sterling!! Weehoo.

Tumbling Dice is something they ran two years ago, and is extremely "do-able" if you know how.
I archived my spreadsheet then, and won it twice then. I have won the 1000 THREE TIMES this session, and missed the other three only through being out wagered by other players.
There is still the VIP wager challenge result to come (by 5pm EST today), and the fact I was top wagerer for Tumbling Dice means I have a chance of a decent prize here too (although much of my heavy wagering was during the week, not the weekend).

It is do-able as there are only 216 possible combos to guess the exact match, which pays 1000 (or a mere $1000 if you're a yank). One guess is available for each 100 or $100 deposited and played through at least once. This can be done while depositing and playing the other promotions.
They are now running the "ocean challenge" thing again, now this is NOT "do-able" due to them having learned their lessons from a couple of years ago with "Paddy's Gold", which I "did" to destruction.
There IS a way to attempt to beat the Ocean Challenge, but it involves a great deal of risk (high slot wager amounts per spin), and only yields 1000 ($1000) for the winner. As an accompaniment to other promos though, it is worth registering for the prize draw, a cruise for two, and maybe the consolation prizes for the top 50 places.
I will be requesting another check from Neteller, so as to avoid going mad on this, and losing my last few thousand in a duff promo.

 

[cynthial]

How do you do it man, you are like some sort of omniscient gambling god.:notworthy

 

[hitobito2005]

Does it take a lot to be invited into the JF VIP club?

 

[vinylweatherman]

How do you do it man, you are like some sort of omniscient gambling god.:notworthy

Not really - I have these spells where everything seems to come together, then the big freeze cuts in (after all, this is Microgaming).
The weekend has seen the arrival of colder conditions, although I recovered my earlier donation to Ruby Fortune. I didn't get a sniff of a prize in the VIP tournament, but got top deposits (300) in Tour de Chance, and 733 for the VIP Lucky Stocks - I think the market was manipulated, as the top slots seemed to be the worst investments, and all "stocks" had lousy returns compared with huge gains in the first couple of weeks. I am sure this will come round again, so my data has been archived.

The "ocean thingy" is called Sea Quest. For $100 (100), register and name a yatch (your scoreboard user ID), and win "miles" by getting payouts of $500+ (25 miles) or wagering $2000 (1 mile). This is clearly a payouts tournament, and can not be won through lots of wagering alone, as the accumulated house edge on this will far outweigh the $1000 top prize.
I have registered a boat, but intend to use this with other promotions (Tour de Chance on again, as well as VIP King and Queen).

Does it take a lot to be invited into the JF VIP club?

I got in within 2 months of opening my very first account! This might have been due to the massive deposits I made once I had worked out how to "do" their "Paddy's Gold" promo.
Support admitted I was part of a small number of players who had cracked these promos, and they responded by tweaking the rules, learning from us each time we "did" one of the promos.
I was surprised to find the only "tweak" to Tumbling Dice to be an increase from $50 per entry to $100 per entry. Sea Quest 2, though, is even harder than last year's Sea Quest 1 - again, some players found a loophole, but it was very, very, high risk ($250 bets on each Blackjack variant, but only paid 3 "miles", with slots paying 50, roulette (do-able) 25, sic-bo (also do-able).
This year it's no Blackjack, Poker!, Roulette, Sic-Bo, Bacarrat.
No mention of Pontoon though



Competition:-

Research, and identify the name of my Yacht in Sea Quest II

First Prize - one week's membership of Vinylweatherman.net

Second Prize - TWO WEEK'S membership



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