adios Linux, hello Apple

[justdoit]

Very nice to read your review of the mini - I am considering to get one, but half holding out to the new chip. I currently run a 2013 (!!) Macbook pro, which works fine with exception of a battery life lasting a whole 20 minutes. It's what made me realise I never use my laptop as a portable device; preference given to my phone and iPad.

Weighing up the pros and cons, whether I invest in a monitor and keyboard etc. Or whether I go for another Macbook pro.

I am somewhat in the apple ecosystem - Music, home pod, phone, iPad. There I shall remain

they are very good M1 and M2 they very fast, silence no fan noise, I got M1 macbook air and Mini M2 pro very happy with both, I thing M3 chip is abet faster, Amzon you find like £200 cheaper

 

[dunover]

Careful what you wish for...
My watch even unlocks my iMac and MacBook.

And I have just fitted a string of motion-sensitive LED lights to my yardbrush which cycle through 7 colours while it's being used.

 

[Webzcas]

Oh you would appreciate my setup then!

Mood Lighting, PacMan Led Wall Light behind and above my iMac, complete with ghosts. Mood lighting around the back and sides of my desk and also a gaming mat adorned with LED's which display a colour of my choice, or cycle through them.

From my CM Profile - pic of my PacMan Led Wall Light

 

[Webzcas]

they are very good M1 and M2 they very fast, silence no fan noise, I got M1 macbook air and Mini M2 pro very happy with both, I thing M3 chip is abet faster, Amzon you find like £200 cheaper

I am very very tempted to pick up an M1 MacBook Air off eBay or even Amazon Refurbished. eBay can get them for under £500 and Amazon Refurbished around £600.

Amazing value for money for a machine that is for want of a better word, just incredible for the perfomance it provides. Would make a great replacement for the 2015 MacBook Pro my son is using.

 

[Webzcas]

As for the watch. Broke my flights of stairs record the other day LOL

 

[thr0b]

Ppl PM

they are very good M1 and M2 they very fast, silence no fan noise, I got M1 macbook air and Mini M2 pro very happy with both, I thing M3 chip is abet faster, Amzon you find like £200 cheaper

I’m genuinely not sure that I’ve ever heard the fan for my M1 Mini switch on. The computer’s been powered on pretty much 24/7 for around two years (save for occasional reboots). They just cool naturally so well.

 

[thr0b]

I am very very tempted to pick up an M1 MacBook Air off eBay or even Amazon Refurbished. eBay can get them for under £500 and Amazon Refurbished around £600.

Amazing value for money for a machine that is for want of a better word, just incredible for the perfomance it provides. Would make a great replacement for the 2015 MacBook Pro my son is using.

One tip I’ll give - always buy from Apple’s own refurb store. You get the full Apple warranty, and the knowledge that what you’ve bought has had any faults manually repaired. Chances are what you get is better than retail as it’s had a fully detailed inspection. And obviously a full warranty.

Every single Mac I’ve had has come from their refurb store. Usually 10-20% cheaper than the retail price.

Also! Two of them arrived better specced than advertised. Presumably - they’d taken my money, didn’t have the device requested in stock anymore, so sent the next one up in the range instead.

 

[Webzcas]

I must admit never used Apple Refurb Store. Amazon Refurbished I have used for replacing my kid's iPhone's. Have to say been very very impressed and backed up with a 1 year warranty and no quibble return if not as described.

But yes the Apple Refurb Store, the kit is as good as new. In the main, it is items that were sold, but returned within the 14 day cool off period. So not even used.

 

[thr0b]

I must admit never used Apple Refurb Store. Amazon Refurbished I have used for replacing my kid's iPhone's. Have to say been very very impressed and backed up with a 1 year warranty and no quibble return if not as described.

But yes the Apple Refurb Store, the kit is as good as new. In the main, it is items that were sold, but returned within the 14 day cool off period. So not even used.

Yep. Not only that - it will always have a new case, as the serials are engraved and Apple refurbished gets unique serial numbers. So even if it has been used, it won’t look used.

 

[Webzcas]

I’m genuinely not sure that I’ve ever heard the fan for my M1 Mini switch on. The computer’s been powered on pretty much 24/7 for around two years (save for occasional reboots). They just cool naturally so well.

This is the beauty about Apple Silicon. My 2020 iMac which has the 3.8 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i7 and AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 GB GPU, along with 96GB of memory, sounds like a Harrier Jump Jet when using Final Cut Pro, editing 4K video footage.

The fans also go nuts when it is hot and subsequently MacOS thermal throttles.

However, my M2 Pro Macbook Pro, performing the same tasks. I also have not heard the fans, yet. Plus it is noticeably quicker at rendering and exporting video content than the iMac. Which is still even today, four years old, no slouch by any means.

Apple really did raise the bar when they introduced Apple Silicon.

 

[maxd]

Ppl PM

I’m genuinely not sure that I’ve ever heard the fan for my M1 Mini switch on. The computer’s been powered on pretty much 24/7 for around two years (save for occasional reboots). They just cool naturally so well.

One of the very interesting and fundamental differences between Apple and Intel CPU chips these days is the TDP:

Thermal Design Power (TDP) is a measurement of the maximum amount of heat a CPU or GPU generates under an intense workload.

I was comparing the M2 Pro — the chip in my Mini — to the big Intel chips that are routinely pegged against it. It’s pretty astounding, the M2 has a TDP of 1/4 or even 1/10 of the big Intel chips.

Higher TDP translates directly in heat generated under load that needs to be dissipated in order to keep the chip from thermally throttling and effectively delivering reduced capability to the rest of the system. In other words, fans and/or coolers. THAT’s why my Intel boxes always needed gynornmous heatsinks and the quietest, high volume fans I could buy. That’s also why I’ll likely never hear a damn thing from my Mini other than utter silence.

Intel may be able to match Apple Silicon for raw horsepower but it comes at a pretty heavy cost because they’re not even in the same ballpark when it comes to delivering CPU muscle at low and modest power levels. This may all sound like an esoteric wank but just ask yourself one question: do I like the sound of fans on my computer? If the answer is “no” then there’s one company I might suggest that could help you with that.

- Max

 

[justdoit]

I am very very tempted to pick up an M1 MacBook Air off eBay or even Amazon Refurbished. eBay can get them for under £500 and Amazon Refurbished around £600.

Amazing value for money for a machine that is for want of a better word, just incredible for the perfomance it provides. Would make a great replacement for the 2015 MacBook Pro my son is using.

I hade many laptops PC on past, nothing will last like Apple Laptops, easy 5+ years without any problems, lot of good deal on Amazon

 

[justdoit]

One of the very interesting and fundamental differences between Apple and Intel CPU chips these days is the TDP:


I was comparing the M2 Pro — the chip in my Mini — to the big Intel chips that are routinely pegged against it. It’s pretty astounding, the M2 has a TDP of 1/4 or even 1/10 of the big Intel chips.

Higher TDP translates directly in heat generated under load that needs to be dissipated in order to keep the chip from thermally throttling and effectively delivering reduced capability to the rest of the system. In other words, fans and/or coolers. THAT’s why my Intel boxes always needed gynornmous heatsinks and the quietest, high volume fans I could buy. That’s also why I’ll likely never hear a damn thing from my Mini other than utter silence.

Intel may be able to match Apple Silicon for raw horsepower but it comes at a pretty heavy cost because they’re not even in the same ballpark when it comes to delivering CPU muscle at low and modest power levels. This may all sound like an esoteric wank but just ask yourself one question: do I like the sound of fans on my computer? If the answer is “no” then there’s one company I might suggest that could help you with that.

- Max

MacbookAir M1


Mac Min M2

 

[justdoit]

I am very very tempted to pick up an M1 MacBook Air off eBay or even Amazon Refurbished. eBay can get them for under £500 and Amazon Refurbished around £600.

Amazing value for money for a machine that is for want of a better word, just incredible for the perfomance it provides. Would make a great replacement for the 2015 MacBook Pro my son is using.

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[Webzcas]

MacbookAir M1
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Mac Min M2
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One of the quirks with the M2 Mac's. Apple in their wisdom decided to use single memory nand chips for the entry level models in their range with the lowest storage. Meaning the SSD's were slower. They reversed this with the M3.

This is my 2020 iMac



and below is my M2 Pro MacBook Pro with a 512GB Drive. The 1TB and above drives are nearly twice as quick as they use two or more Nand Chips. But to be honest, at even this speed I doubt very much I will ever see any performance issues, as still faster than my iMac LOLOL

 

[justdoit]

One of the quirks with the M2 Mac's. Apple in their wisdom decided to use single memory nand chips for the entry level models in their range with the lowest storage. Meaning the SSD's were slower. They reversed this with the M3.

This is my 2020 iMac


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and below is my M2 Pro MacBook Pro with a 512GB Drive. The 1TB and above drives are nearly twice as quick as they use two or more Nand Chips. But to be honest, at even this speed I doubt very much I will ever see any performance issues, as still faster than my iMac LOLOL

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my mini pro is overload it with lot of work doc videos files I need to clean it up