Absolute Poker Blackjack

[SeattleSinner]

I have been playing BJ at AP for some time and have noticed that I haven't had one winning session. However when I play for fake I win thousands. Now in spite of the scandal with the poker I wouldn't put it past these crooks that there BJ game is rigged as well. Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

 

[maxd]

I don't mean to sound like I'm splitting hairs here but the AP issue wasn't "rigged" software but software that had a back door built into it. I'm not making any comment on your BJ observations, just that the poker issues aren't really the same thing.

When people say "rigged" in terms of casino games they usually be where the odds have been stacked against them, whereas the AP poker issue is an entirely different matter.

 

[SeattleSinner]

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

 

[pokeraddict]

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

I have 5 accounts at AP and they all get a free $10-$15 every 6 weeks or so. I usually just go play BJ with it. Out of the endless times I've done this only once have I ever not busted within 20 hands or so at $1/hand. There is no way I would play that game with my own money.

 

[SlotsWizard]

And you guys aren't the only ones who have questioned the fairness of their blackjack. Bernynhel has also stated that their blackjack is highly suspicious.

Generally speaking, I don't think it's good to play games at places that aren't meant for them, i.e., blackjack at a poker room, video poker at a bingo site, etc.

Blackjack, with its notoriously low house edge, is always an easy target for cheaters... so it wouldn't surprise me if Absolute Poker has a hidden higher house edge than most other blackjacks.

There are two reasons why a company will offer blackjack:
1) It's a fun game enjoyed by millions of gamblers, and an honest game of blackjack will keep the player coming back

and

2) It's a fun game enjoyed by millions of gamblers, but not very profitable so in order for the house to make any money off it, it needs to be rigged

I think casinos offer blackjack because of reason #1, and poker/bingo/other sites offer blackjack because of reason #2

 

[peteyweestro]

knowing ap track record why would you dare to risk your own money in their other web site its the same company, if they will cheat at poker they will cheat at bj

 

[djackson]

I have been playing BJ at AP for some time and have noticed that I haven't had one winning session. However when I play for fake I win thousands. Now in spite of the scandal with the poker I wouldn't put it past these crooks that there BJ game is rigged as well. Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

RUN don't WALK

 

[maxd]

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

No, I understood your point. I just pointed out that there was a difference. And you'll note that I didn't disagree with your conclusion.

 

[Eliot Jacobson]

AP Blackjack Audit

Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

SS,

I would be glad to look at a sample of hands and give you my opinion -- I would need a fairly large sample (not millions of hands; but a few thousand would be helpful).

--Eliot

 

[lots0]

I would be glad to look at a sample of hands and give you my opinion -- I would need a fairly large sample (not millions of hands; but a few thousand would be helpful).

I'd like to see that.
However, I don't have any hand histories and I'm willing to bet that AP wouldn't give me one, even if I asked nice.

Anyone got any AP blackjack hand histories they would like to share?

 

[uungy]

I don't have my hands anymore, I played way back, and loads and loads of players only seemed to have lost there. I think I lost alot there, which doesnt show anything, but when loads of players say the same, it does sound strange.

 

[SeattleSinner]

I requested my BJ hand histories from AP as should everyone else so we can get them to Mr. Jacobson.

 

[Eliot Jacobson]

Small AP blackjack audit

Greetings,

I received a log file from an anonymous member of this site consisting of 1659 hands played from Absolute Poker's blackjack game. The player indicated that he was "in the black" for these 1659 hands, but wanted to provide them anyway for my analysis.

This is not many hands, certainly not enought to conduct a full suite of tests. However, six separate tests were performed on this data. For every test performed, this game was fair, and the results obtained were within statistical norms for the number of hands examined.

I also wrote to AP and requested that AP contact me directly to conduct a full blackjack audit (for free), but have not heard back from them about this matter.

--Eliot

 

[SeattleSinner]

I'm trying to get my hand history however AP is giving me problems with this. Mr. Jacobson thank you for putting in the time and effort to assist the online gambling community.

 

[And]

The logs are stored in this folder:

folder you installed Absolute Poker\HandHistory\NICKNAME

 

[tristan727]

I lost something like $1,000-$1,200 here, was so shocking an experience I never deposited again - even though was still eligible for some of the sign-up bonus. They've even cold-called my mobile enticing me to redeposit, let alone by email. What kind of business plan exactly is that anyways - calling overseas mobiles regarding a blackjack promotion, if really pays 99.5%?

 

[kakata]

I lost something like $1,000-$1,200 here, was so shocking an experience I never deposited again - even though was still eligible for some of the sign-up bonus. They've even cold-called my mobile enticing me to redeposit, let alone by email. What kind of business plan exactly is that anyways - calling overseas mobiles regarding a blackjack promotion, if really pays 99.5%?

It does pays 99.5%.................into theyr pockets thou

 

[SeattleSinner]

The logs are stored in this folder:

folder you installed Absolute Poker\HandHistory\NICKNAME

I have played from different computers, and the one I played regularly on doesn't work anymore. As a result I cannot retrieve all of them, and AP is not responding to requests for the history. Pretty typical of them if you ask me...

 

[winbig]

*bump*

Whatever came of this?

Did you ever get your game logs?

 

[anarxis]

I played their BJ too and found it very strange.
To be honest, i played there not much perhaps few hundred hands but i played thousands of hands in other online casinos.
I never felt cheated only at AP.

But sorry, no HH anymore.

 

[DarkMage]

I played their BJ too and found it very strange.
To be honest, i played there not much perhaps few hundred hands but i played thousands of hands in other online casinos.
I never felt cheated only at AP.

But sorry, no HH anymore.

I took their 10$ free chip I got a month of or so ago up to 200$ playing blackjack for 1-2$ a hand. Then ended up losing it.. but I never felt it was rigged.

I feel like it's rigged more at land casinos when they put the cards in those automatic shufflers - Even though I know it's fair lol.

 

[winbig]

I feel like it's rigged more at land casinos when they put the cards in those automatic shufflers - Even though I know it's fair lol.

I think the same way at times, but also understand that it's nearly impossible for the automatic shufflers to rig a 2-8 deck shoe