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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by universexf6, Feb 25, 2005.

    Feb 25, 2005
  1. universexf6

    universexf6 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Harakiri
    Location:
    A Country Called Full Of Geld
    Meister, or anybody with knowledge of watchdogs(?), could you
    feedback to me if the above mentioned organization is worth
    trusting or not?? I searched here but could not find material results.

    Why I ask this is because a playtech casino I play often recently
    ( Japanese one so probably only I know ) is boasting ( not sure
    if this word is appropriate or not ) that they are fully approved
    by the mentioned association and would like to know if the organization
    is fully acceptable or not.

    Their site is here.

    Online Players Association

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I am sorry if I should not post this kind of thread here.
     
  2. Feb 25, 2005
  3. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Fishing :)
    Location:
    USA
    The OPA is a joke. Membership is based on ability to pay.
    Is Black Widow still a member???

    Almost all Playtechs are members cause playtech greases the palm so dont go by this in making your decision where to play.

    I am sure the Meister can fill you in alot on this :)
     
  4. Feb 25, 2005
  5. Petunia

    Petunia Dormant account

    ** Frankly, I usually ignore anything posted by them or about them. They are fairly new and they are already annoying quite a few pple. I don't think they carry as much clout yet, but who knows - I do wish them the best, their intentions are good... I think it lacks discretion and execution at times! **
     
  6. Feb 25, 2005
  7. spearmaster

    spearmaster RIP Ted

    Occupation:
    Devil's Advocate
    Location:
    Heaven
    universexf6, you can forget about the certification. I don't believe that there is anything scientific about verifying a payout percentage, and the sole qualification, as mentioned by Paul, is an ability to pay the fees required for certification (though not necessarily by Playtech - more likely the individual operators).

    If you're still in doubt, I shall further point out that Casinomeister was once on the board of the OPA, as well as Jetset, and I had kind of an inside view though I refused a board position - and then when it was finally uncovered that the current owner of the OPA was in fact receiving payments for certifications which we thought would be free, both of them left the OPA immediately.

    In other words, we are intimately aware of the lack of credibility of the organization.

    BTW, I just got back from Eastern Samurai Country after a battle with Miss Liberty - if on a future trip you would be interested in meeting, I'd gladly make the time.
     
  8. Feb 26, 2005
  9. m249a

    m249a Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    Pa
    I was under the impression the OPA had been around for quite a few years :confused: Perhaps you have them confused with someone else.
     
  10. Feb 26, 2005
  11. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    They're not fairly new.....
     
  12. Feb 26, 2005
  13. tony_k

    tony_k Dormant account

    I have filed a dispute to OPA. That casino was on their "Approved PLUS" list. I doubted if they would do something though... I was right.
     
  14. Feb 26, 2005
  15. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    OPA 2 has been around for several years and is still owned by a guy called Mike Craig, a thirty-something Englishman who was at one time active in the industry through a webcast program.

    If you search the archives here you will find plenty of material on the guy and his OPA site, mainly surrounding the en masse resignation of the voluntary executive when it was discovered that he had been entering into financial deals with mainly Playtech casinos and witholding the information from the committee, which had not approved his certification concept.

    There were also problems with outstanding player complaints, which in the end guys like Bryan and poster Jyde ended up handling to get the people paid.

    Perhaps it is just as well that Bryan is away in Sweden at present - this subject tends to push his blood pressure upwards, as it does mine.
     
  16. Feb 26, 2005
  17. universexf6

    universexf6 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Harakiri
    Location:
    A Country Called Full Of Geld

    Dear Spearmaster ( and all )

    Thank you for your comment(s). I could clearly understand what kind
    of organization they are by your information. Now please tell me when you
    come to our country again before you come so that I will guide you ( really )
    throught Japan especially around some hidden good places with full of
    nature. Of course there is no wagering requirement incurred about it :D .
    Anyway thanks.
     
  18. Feb 26, 2005
  19. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    :lolup: LOL. I can see the advert now.

    "Come to Japan and receive a free tour. Terms and conditions apply"

    "Terms & Conditions: Visitors are required to spend the cost of their airfare AND the cost of the hotel 15 times prior to leaving the country. Purchases on tobacco, drugs and prostitution do not count towards the exit requirements. Purchases on drink and sushi are subject to x20 purchasing requirement. Players from Denmark and Israel will be turned back at the airport on arrival. Not to be used in conjunction with any other offer. Visitors who have visited Japan before are not entitled to the free tour."

    :)
     
  20. Feb 26, 2005
  21. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

    Location:
    UK
    Here is some more info. Mary also wrote a long post about OPA here:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  22. Feb 26, 2005
  23. spearmaster

    spearmaster RIP Ted

    Occupation:
    Devil's Advocate
    Location:
    Heaven
    LMAO about the wagering requirement!

    I will take you up on that when I next head back to Eastern Samurai Country, probably in April. I did briefly visit Hakone but it was too foggy to see the crater of the volcano, and not really enough time to check out the hot springs, but I enjoyed the excursion nevertheless - partly because it was the first time I'd seen that much snow on the ground in 27 years!

    Simmo - pachislot and pachinko has no wagering requirement - in fact I know a place which will give you a free bonus round if you purchase 5000 yen - and that bonus round is probably good for most of that purchase right off the bat.

    Your T&C is a cracker though... LMAO...
     
  24. Feb 26, 2005
  25. maxlevine

    maxlevine Webmaster webmeister

    Location:
    Montreal
    LOL, good one, Simmo!
     
  26. Feb 27, 2005
  27. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    The only thing that bothers me about the OPA is that there is a shitload of misinformation and rumours about it. I discussed it in detail here - I thought most everyone had read this by now...
    http://casinomeister.com/newsletter/2003/10january2003.html#article2
     
  28. Feb 28, 2005
  29. Petunia

    Petunia Dormant account

    ** Considering the lenght of time that most of these places have been around (And the credability they have gained in the same if not shorter period of time), this lot is 'fairly new'. I am not confusing them with anyone - *grin* and I know whom you might think that is - Their website is full of errors, their links are broken or pages incomplete.... Sorry to say... in my mind, they are babies struggling to master the art of walking, let alone being in the front running..... But again, I don't even bother reading most stuff about them (unless it is something that clarify things about them) . I wish them well, this industry is a tough one, and you need to have your act together.... They have been struggling for a while.... Is all I am saying**
     
  30. Feb 28, 2005
  31. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Watch
    Location:
    London
    I believe the software supplier should play a hand in keeping licensees real.

    I believe Playtech know the OPA verification exists.

    I believe Platech know the OPA verification is nothing of the sort in real terms.

    I believe Playtech should make the licensees drop the OPA verification or be blackballed as a useless software supplier who tacitly allow licensees to print nonsense.

    All alledgedly of course because Playtech have bigshot lawyers who jump up and down on "the little guys" like the Meister for example, simply because they can.
     
  32. Mar 1, 2005
  33. universexf6

    universexf6 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Harakiri
    Location:
    A Country Called Full Of Geld

    Meister, thank you for the input. So the guy called Mike is still doing some
    secretive campaign which I have no idea and which I will not believe
    after having been input about all these?? Anyway, I hope this won't harm
    Playtech credibility because after all Playtech software quite impresses me
    personally.
     

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