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A Very Stupid Casino

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by zman, Nov 26, 2007.

    Nov 26, 2007
  1. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    Hey guys i havent been on here for ages, good to be back. :thumbsup:

    I played back early in the year at bethedealer casino. I got lucky and after probably 3 mill worth of wagers i was up alot.

    So i go to cashout and apparently they have a 5k max withdraw per month. So i put up with that crap till 2 days ago.

    I got the itch to play. Turned over 140k in wagering probablt 200-500 a hand. I saw in the cashier i had $140 worth of comp points. I find out today i cant get those points because im bonus banned. Ok really 140k for 140 isnt much so i didnt really understand why they would do that.

    I spoke to their support apparently i know how to play BJ so dont need bonuses anymore (remember i reversed withdrawals so no deposit bonus this time).

    Anyways i played again and probably played 100+ hands of $750 bets approx $90k worth.

    Funniest thing i saw tonight was when i came home i got this email.

    Well i sent back...
    The end :notworthy
     
  2. Nov 26, 2007
  3. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    Wow! Could this be Virgin? There is a similar thread lately about them.
     
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  4. Nov 26, 2007
  5. dancinggoon

    dancinggoon Dormant account PABnorogue PABrogue PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred PABaccred

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    You have to consider that most casinos have a different oppinion about a VIP then we do...

    For us a VIP is probalby someone who makes huge deposits, plays alot with highstakes bets... no matter if he is currently winning or loosing


    For a Casino, a VIP is usually a compulsive, money dumping cashcow, that keeps on loosing his money by playing with bad blackjack strategy or on suckerbets/slots.
     
  6. Nov 26, 2007
  7. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    Funny enough they were quoting how much i was up ;)

    Also as a non VIP i think max play is $200 or $500 or something lol.

    I wish this was at a live casino i would have been comped outta my ass with 3.5 mill wagered in 6 months.
     
  8. Nov 26, 2007
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Looks like you have your explanation:D

    I am sure many of us are scratching our heads, after all, the software is random, and if you continued to play like this you would eventually end up producing a large profit for the casino.

    Bonus bans have nothing to do with comp points anyway, these are earned for wagering, and in your case are hardly worth worrying about anyway.

    Either this casino is really stupid, OR their blackjack is NOT entirely random (or pays more than 100% with perfect strategy) and they believe you have a system that really works on their game. You could make a fair bit of money selling this, and you can use the "ban" E-mails from the casino to give your claim for the system a degree of credibility.
    The "holy grail" for players is to find a system to consistently beat the casino WITHOUT using the promotions. Nearly everyone who is a serious player knows how pretty much any bonus can be played in a way that gives long term +EV.

    Reducing your limits will not stop you winning if your system is good, but will make it far harder for the casino to ever win it back should you eventually hit the long streak of bad luck.
     
  10. Nov 26, 2007
  11. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:
     
  12. Nov 26, 2007
  13. cyprean

    cyprean Banned User PABnononaccred

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    Under those conditions I would be happy just to switch where I play. Many other casinos would welcome you with open arms.

    Why haven't you done this yet? :)
     
  14. Nov 27, 2007
  15. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    Cause their holding 16k of my money hostage lol :rolleyes:

    I took them for 4k when these idiots wouldnt give me 140 in comp points. ;)

    Now im just waiting 4 months till i get all my money out. :mad:
     
  16. Nov 27, 2007
  17. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

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    They certainly have a stupid name, "Be The Dealer". Nobody wants to be the dealer unless they can choose what cards to deal.
     
  18. Nov 27, 2007
  19. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Soon these guys will be changing their terms to max cashouts at 2K per month for non-VIPs applied retrospectively.
     
  20. Nov 27, 2007
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Perhaps this might develop into a "payment delay" issue. It is hard to say too much about a casino that is holding hostage 16K of your money.

    Why can't they just be honest and say you have won too much to have bonuses.

    When they have paid up, allow another casino the dubious pleasure of winning it back, provided you are treated with the respect your wagering deserves.

    PS.

    I think your name is very apt!!!
     
  22. Nov 28, 2007
  23. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    I changed it to whale :lolup:

    Just an update. Previously my withdraws sit there able to be reversed and played with. They have made it so i cannot reversed but not approved :p

    Im guessing their scared that i will some more off them :D Its up to about 19k their holding hostage now :rolleyes:
     
  24. Nov 28, 2007
  25. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    So yeah i cant play there any more now :D
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2007
  26. Nov 28, 2007
  27. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    So how do you keep winning, surely the game must have some kind of angle that gives you a positive return. This would probably be what scares them.

    Would be best to wait, perhaps they are trying to find HOW you are "cheating" so they can then refuse to pay out.
     
  28. Nov 28, 2007
  29. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    lol i have no way of cheating :lolup:

    Just play big and hope for good cards :)
     

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